Jonathan Paul Manziel
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if anything, let's hope haslam has learned his 'jerrah' lesson and keeps his frickin nose out of personnel decisions from now on, except when it comes to the money.
stay in your zone jimmy. keep trying to make a nickel into a dime.
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Have y'all seen this?
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/johnny_free_february_movement.html
OK starting now!
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I would say the fan base was divided on Johnny before he ever set foot in Berea....and has remained so....
And they were divided for the exact reasons they are divided now......because a lot of people thought he would bring the massive mess he has brought to the team and the city.....
Edit and to mud tried to straighten him out in college and failed? Before or after he won the national championship?
WSSUm...he never won anything.....National Championship????......hahahahaha.....try 5th place and then 7th place in his own conference....
You must be thinking of Tebow.......
I would say the fan base was divided on Johnny before he ever set foot in Berea....and has remained so....
And they were divided for the exact reasons they are divided now......because a lot of people thought he would bring the massive mess he has brought to the team and the city.....
Um...he never won anything.....National Championship????......hahahahaha.....try 5th place and then 7th place in his own conference....
You must be thinking of Tebow.......
Maybe. I love him too though.
WSS
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I heard Jason Cole from Bleacher Report on radio today say he expects the Browns to just cut JM some time between now and two weeks from now and was leaning more towards sooner rather than later
How about we make this ruling here: If and when JFF gets cut...if that is what is to occur....then this thread....and every other single other one that is created that talks about the boy (and he is a boy) be locked.
How many of you remember when Pete Franklin was on the radio. (Franklin still is to this day the biggest name in Cleveland sports talk radio..at the time he may have been the only game in town talking sports)?
He went on rant after rant about the Cavs and the ineptness of Ted Stepien. Stepien vowed to sue him (or he did sue him). Franklin then made a rule that he would then never let a word be said about the Cavs on his radio show. And he did exactly that. For 2-3 years even during the height of basketball season he never had a conversation about the Cavs. (and not many people cared because as a result of Stepien's management the Cavs sucked big time)
It was a complete moratorium.
Can we have a complete moratorium on JFF when he is gone? At least a full year.
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I heard Jason Cole from Bleacher Report on radio today say he expects the Browns to just cut JM some time between now and two weeks from now and was leaning more towards sooner rather than later
How about we make this ruling here: If and when JFF gets cut...if that is what is to occur....then this thread....and every other single other one that is created that talks about the boy (and he is a boy) be locked.
How many of you remember when Pete Franklin was on the radio. (Franklin still is to this day the biggest name in Cleveland sports talk radio..at the time he may have been the only game in town talking sports)?
He went on rant after rant about the Cavs and the ineptness of Ted Stepien. Stepien vowed to sue him (or he did sue him). Franklin then made a rule that he would then never let a word be said about the Cavs on his radio show. And he did exactly that. For 2-3 years even during the height of basketball season he never had a conversation about the Cavs. (and not many people cared because as a result of Stepien's management the Cavs sucked big time)
It was a complete moratorium.
Can we have a complete moratorium on JFF when he is gone? At least a full year.
I heard Jason Cole from Bleacher Report on radio today say he expects the Browns to just cut JM some time between now and two weeks from now and was leaning more towards sooner rather than later
How about we make this ruling here: If and when JFF gets cut...if that is what is to occur....then this thread....and every other single other one that is created that talks about the boy (and he is a boy) be locked.
1 week from today is when we can cut him.
I liked the idea of merging every JM thread we've ever had into one - creating a mega hundred+ page rollercoaster ride of emotions.
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I heard Jason Cole from Bleacher Report on radio today say he expects the Browns to just cut JM some time between now and two weeks from now and was leaning more towards sooner rather than later
How about we make this ruling here: If and when JFF gets cut...if that is what is to occur....then this thread....and every other single other one that is created that talks about the boy (and he is a boy) be locked.
1 week from today is when we can cut him.
I liked the idea of merging every JM thread we've ever had into one - creating a mega hundred+ page rollercoaster ride of emotions.
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Mike, losing football games divides the fanbase.IMHO Johnny, Vick, & Rice share the following....their mere presence on a roster will DIVIDE a Fanbase, Front Office/Coaching Staff, & TEAM. That's why I feel strongly that we should dispense of Johnny ASAP.
It's called "addition by subtraction".
Mike
Win one game and the fickle bastards take you down off the cross and put you on a throne.
How did Ray Lewis affect the Baltimore fans?
Edit and to mud tried to straighten him out in college and failed? Before or after he won the national championship?
WSS
LMMFAO. Before I guess ?Edit and to mud tried to straighten him out in college and failed? Before or after he won the national championship?
WSS
Johnny won the national championship like Greenland dropped the atomic bomb on the Alamo.
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Someone mentioned Ray Lewis? Displaying hall of fame talent cures a lot of ills. Manziel sucks though. He doesn't have NFL level talent let alone Pro Bowl talent. All style no substance. They need to drop his ass like a sack of shit.
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Fine....and then shutting it down. Rollercoaster rides do end.
Now don't take away all fun with JFF. The circus is half the game. It should get even better to see what town, if any, the circus goes to next and how that plays out there. It's just too damn entertaining to write off just because the circus left town. Just look how stirred up this board has been since he was drafted. You have to grin about some of the wild rollercoaster ride and it ain't over till it's over.
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Fine....and then shutting it down. Rollercoaster rides do end.
Now don't take away all fun with JFF. The circus is half the game. It should get even better to see what town, if any, the circus goes to next and how that plays out there. It's just too damn entertaining to write off just because the circus left town. Just look how stirred up this board has been since he was drafted. You have to grin about some of the wild rollercoaster ride and it ain't over till it's over.
Now don't take away all fun with JFF. The circus is half the game. It should get even better to see what town, if any, the circus goes to next and how that plays out there. It's just too damn entertaining to write off just because the circus left town. Just look how stirred up this board has been since he was drafted. You have to grin about some of the wild rollercoaster ride and it ain't over till it's over.
Manziel has been entertainment alright but I would have liked the entertainment much better if he was wearing a Steelers uniform.
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I heard Jason Cole from Bleacher Report on radio today say he expects the Browns to just cut JM some time between now and two weeks from now and was leaning more towards sooner rather than later
How about we make this ruling here: If and when JFF gets cut...if that is what is to occur....then this thread....and every other single other one that is created that talks about the boy (and he is a boy) be locked.
1 week from today is when we can cut him.
I liked the idea of merging every JM thread we've ever had into one - creating a mega hundred+ page rollercoaster ride of emotions.
1 week from today is when we can cut him.
I liked the idea of merging every JM thread we've ever had into one - creating a mega hundred+ page rollercoaster ride of emotions.
That's my plan, but i want to do it like jellybeans in a jar.
I will merge every thread with the words "Manziel" "Johnny" or "JFF" in the titles and we all take a guess how many pages. No cheating of course.
Here was the first post, adoug had the honors in Sept. 2013:
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26736&hl=manziel%20johnny
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1 week from today is when we can cut him.
I liked the idea of merging every JM thread we've ever had into one - creating a mega hundred+ page rollercoaster ride of emotions.
That's my plan, but i want to do it like jellybeans in a jar.
I will merge every thread with the words "Manziel" "Johnny" or "JFF" in the titles and we all take a guess how many pages. No cheating of course.
Here was the first post, adoug had the honors in Sept. 2013:
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26736&hl=manziel%20johnny
Zombo said:
That's my plan, but i want to do it like jellybeans in a jar.
I will merge every thread with the words "Manziel" "Johnny" or "JFF" in the titles and we all take a guess how many pages. No cheating of course.
Here was the first post, adoug had the honors in Sept. 2013:
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26736&hl=manziel%20johnny
It's going to take awhile Z- you sure you're up for it?
LOL, and looking at the first thread- here's my comment.
"I hope they were scouting Alabama- Manziel is a punk."
Give an honorable mention to Mark- he was agin' him from the get-go too.
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Fine....and then shutting it down. Rollercoaster rides do end.
Now don't take away all fun with JFF. The circus is half the game. It should get even better to see what town, if any, the circus goes to next and how that plays out there. It's just too damn entertaining to write off just because the circus left town. Just look how stirred up this board has been since he was drafted. You have to grin about some of the wild rollercoaster ride and it ain't over till it's over.
Now don't take away all fun with JFF. The circus is half the game. It should get even better to see what town, if any, the circus goes to next and how that plays out there. It's just too damn entertaining to write off just because the circus left town. Just look how stirred up this board has been since he was drafted. You have to grin about some of the wild rollercoaster ride and it ain't over till it's over.
You will have some CFL chat board that you can patronize when he's gonzo.
Who is gonna pick this guy up?
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How about you just don't read the threads that annoy you Gipper?
Its condensed into one thread as it is unlike some other threads that get repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
WSS
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If he is actually an alcoholic like many people presume, or has actual bipolar mental health problems, then I feel bad for not noticing that from my keyboard, and with no personal connection to him whatsoever. I have known people with both.
What I don't know is how insulting someone with those problems makes some people feel any better about themselves, but that's your prerogative.
Or how he "shit on your favorite organized football team" has any involvement in any type of intelligent conversation about the current issue.
He is a good football player with a bright future if he can overcome his personal problems and his pending release from the Browns.
And then we will move on to the next one. And I won't bring him up, or be bitter about him being gone like the Hoyer, Colt McCoy, et al crowds who have come and gone in this fan base.
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If he is actually an alcoholic like many people presume, or has actual bipolar mental health problems, then I feel bad for not noticing that from my keyboard, and with no personal connection to him whatsoever. I have known people with both.
What I don't know is how insulting someone with those problems makes some people feel any better about themselves, but that's your prerogative.
Or how he "shit on your favorite organized football team" has any involvement in any type of intelligent conversation about the current issue.
He is a good football player with a bright future if he can overcome his personal problems and his pending release from the Browns.
And then we will move on to the next one. And I won't bring him up, or be bitter about him being gone like the Hoyer, Colt McCoy, et al crowds who have come and gone in this fan base.
He is a good football player with a bright future
Everything else regarding Johnny set aside, ^ this is the heart of the problem for me. I don't think he is good now, and more importantly, I don't think he ever will be......... I see him as nothing more than a Colt McCoy or Charlie Frye, and honestly, I'm being optimistic with those comparisons.
Time will tell, one way or the other.
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Zombo said:
That's my plan, but i want to do it like jellybeans in a jar.
I will merge every thread with the words "Manziel" "Johnny" or "JFF" in the titles and we all take a guess how many pages. No cheating of course.
Here was the first post, adoug had the honors in Sept. 2013:
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26736&hl=manziel%20johnny
It's going to take awhile Z- you sure you're up for it?
LOL, and looking at the first thread- here's my comment.
"I hope they were scouting Alabama- Manziel is a punk."
Give an honorable mention to Mark- he was agin' him from the get-go too.
It's going to take awhile Z- you sure you're up for it?
LOL, and looking at the first thread- here's my comment.
"I hope they were scouting Alabama- Manziel is a punk."
Give an honorable mention to Mark- he was agin' him from the get-go too.
Being honest....I did come around on him a little bit after the bowl game that year and the big comeback and I thought it was possible he could bring some attitude that was needed on this team.
All the off field bullshit has completely turned me against him however. 1 week and he will be released and we won't have to talk about him anymore.
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Hoyers demise last year turned me on to the idea. And then he got his first start.
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He is a good football player with a bright future
Everything else regarding Johnny set aside, ^ this is the heart of the problem for me. I don't think he is good now, and more importantly, I don't think he ever will be......... I see him as nothing more than a Colt McCoy or Charlie Frye, and honestly, I'm being optimistic with those comparisons.
Time will tell, one way or the other.
Everything else regarding Johnny set aside, ^ this is the heart of the problem for me. I don't think he is good now, and more importantly, I don't think he ever will be......... I see him as nothing more than a Colt McCoy or Charlie Frye, and honestly, I'm being optimistic with those comparisons.
I get his sentiment, I just think Mike's adjectives are misaligned... i.e., "good" players have good futures... stars have bright futures.
If JM gets his act together, then he may well have a good future as a player. It is simply not worth the risk.
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