Jonathan Paul Manziel
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It is a fact, you just won't admit it because it shows you for the ass hole that you are.
Keep whining, loser. You've got nothing and you know it, and because you have zero fact you resort only to personal insults.
Not only does the insult not "prove" anything.. it actually shows that you've got absolutely zip to back up your vague assertion.
Show these magical "facts" asserting what Manziel "proved" - or they don't exist.
You want to make a case for him? Then make it. It's on you to state your hypothesis and show evidence. Unless, of course, you as a person are just another worthless liar. And that's fine, if that's the best you can do!
Keep whining, loser. You've got nothing and you know it, and because you have zero fact you resort only to personal insults.
Not only does the insult not "prove" anything.. it actually shows that you've got absolutely zip to back up your vague assertion.
Show these magical "facts" asserting what Manziel "proved" - or they don't exist.
You want to make a case for him? Then make it. It's on you to state your hypothesis and show evidence. Unless, of course, you as a person are just another worthless liar. And that's fine, if that's the best you can do!
I always love when I see someone throw their credibility out the window by saying "blah blah blah loser how dare you resort to personal insults"
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Keep whining, loser. You've got nothing and you know it, and because you have zero fact you resort only to personal insults.
Not only does the insult not "prove" anything.. it actually shows that you've got absolutely zip to back up your vague assertion.
Show these magical "facts" asserting what Manziel "proved" - or they don't exist.
You want to make a case for him? Then make it. It's on you to state your hypothesis and show evidence. Unless, of course, you as a person are just another worthless liar. And that's fine, if that's the best you can do!
I always love when I see someone throw their credibility out the window by saying "blah blah blah loser how dare you resort to personal insults"
I always love when I see someone throw their credibility out the window by saying "blah blah blah loser how dare you resort to personal insults"
You start insulting the other person you lose most arguments.
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What makes this all the more infuriating to me is the fact that it was SO easily predicted. He was never worth the risk.
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When was the last original thought posted on Johnny?
How many board members did he win over with his play?
What is the over/under on pages before he is "Former Browns' QB, Johnny Manziel"?
When was the last original thought posted on Johnny?
N/A
How many board members did he win over with his play?
3 as far as I can tell ?(PoG, WSS, and that one guy who starts threads about how he's going to win many SBs for Dallas while we suck forever (original thought?)
What is the over/under on pages before he is "Former Browns' QB, Johnny Manziel"?
At the pace we're going it seems like 65-70 might be a good mark - just over a month left.
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When was the last original thought posted on Johnny?
N/A
How many board members did he win over with his play?
3 as far as I can tell ?(PoG, WSS, and that one guy who starts threads about how he's going to win many SBs for Dallas while we suck forever (original thought?)
What is the over/under on pages before he is "Former Browns' QB, Johnny Manziel"?
At the pace we're going it seems like 65-70 might be a good mark - just over a month left.
When was the last original thought posted on Johnny?
N/A
How many board members did he win over with his play?
3 as far as I can tell ?(PoG, WSS, and that one guy who starts threads about how he's going to win many SBs for Dallas while we suck forever (original thought?) - and stockton fucking shorts.
What is the over/under on pages before he is "Former Browns' QB, Johnny Manziel"?
At the pace we're going it seems like 65-70 might be a good mark - just over a month left.
Over
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When was the last original thought posted on Johnny?
How many board members did he win over with his play?
What is the over/under on pages before he is "Former Browns' QB, Johnny Manziel"?
When was the last original thought posted on Johnny?
☆ not including this one I assume

How many board members did he win over with his play?
☆ let me guess, how about none?
His fans saw progress and the day one haters would complain that he didn't raise the Lombardi Trophy over his head the proper way after winning the Superbowl. ☆

WSS
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Probably is more just drunk Johnny or his people telling people that to try to get people to talk about something other than being searched down by helicopter.
Or just maybe he reads the Internet, watches TV or listen to the radio where that kind of talk is repeated over and over whether or not it substantiated.
WSS
Or just maybe he reads the Internet, watches TV or listen to the radio where that kind of talk is repeated over and over whether or not it substantiated.
WSS
That's when he's not hitting the bars, Steve.

Well you can't have that proof because first of all coach kept him on the bench for punishment and second of all last year we were the worst team in the league. No matter who played quarterback.
So if you say he made absolutely no progress and is completely unfit to play in the NFL then who can argue with you unless you start somewhere?
I haven't seen any sports writers or sports pundits express that sentiment though.
WSS
My opinion doesn't matter anymore Steve. Did he progress? Well if you take the first Bengals start as a baseline, there was no way to go but up. Horrible to mediocre is improvement, I suppose. Sashi has all but said they're moving on from JFF. I've said before we may not know all the details of Johnny's off field antics (including rehab) but the Browns do . It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Browns had hired a PI to keep track of Johnny's doings.
Sure, and we'll still be paying him. Not saying they'll give him anything good, but someone will take him in for a look.
Looking at sportstrac, seems we can cash Johnny out for around $4.3 million. Should another team pick him up (my odds are 50-50) it's gonna be for vet minimum, with a bunch of off-field performance clauses that will give a team the option to cut him for one misstep.
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Or just maybe he reads the Internet, watches TV or listen to the radio where that kind of talk is repeated over and over whether or not it substantiated.
WSS
That's when he's not hitting the bars, Steve.

Well you can't have that proof because first of all coach kept him on the bench for punishment and second of all last year we were the worst team in the league. No matter who played quarterback.
So if you say he made absolutely no progress and is completely unfit to play in the NFL then who can argue with you unless you start somewhere?
I haven't seen any sports writers or sports pundits express that sentiment though.
WSS
My opinion doesn't matter anymore Steve. Did he progress? Well if you take the first Bengals start as a baseline, there was no way to go but up. Horrible to mediocre is improvement, I suppose. Sashi has all but said they're moving on from JFF. I've said before we may not know all the details of Johnny's off field antics (including rehab) but the Browns do . It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Browns had hired a PI to keep track of Johnny's doings.
Sure, and we'll still be paying him. Not saying they'll give him anything good, but someone will take him in for a look.
Looking at sportstrac, seems we can cash Johnny out for around $4.3 million. Should another team pick him up (my odds are 50-50) it's gonna be for vet minimum, with a bunch of off-field performance clauses that will give a team the option to cut him for one misstep.
That's when he's not hitting the bars, Steve.

My opinion doesn't matter anymore Steve. Did he progress? Well if you take the first Bengals start as a baseline, there was no way to go but up. Horrible to mediocre is improvement, I suppose. Sashi has all but said they're moving on from JFF. I've said before we may not know all the details of Johnny's off field antics (including rehab) but the Browns do . It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Browns had hired a PI to keep track of Johnny's doings.
Looking at sportstrac, seems we can cash Johnny out for around $4.3 million. Should another team pick him up (my odds are 50-50) it's gonna be for vet minimum, with a bunch of off-field performance clauses that will give a team the option to cut him for one misstep.
But him being a first round pick he probably has offset language like Weeden did.
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http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
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http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Agree. I hope he's successful. In somewhere like Buffalo. Or Washington. Somewhere it doesn't affect us.
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http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
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http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Agree. I hope he's successful. In somewhere like Buffalo. Or Washington. Somewhere it doesn't affect us.
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http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
It would seem so... Seems to be how in large part how I earned my stripes. Audaciously seeing Hoyer and McCown as better options in 2014 and 2015 respectively.
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http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
lol... and the article did not even mention the merchandizing...
Think of the jersey sale!
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http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
When he's no longer a Brown the definition of hater changes.

WSS
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Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
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Zombo said:
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
When he's no longer a Brown the definition of hater changes.

WSS
When he's no longer a Brown the definition of hater changes.

WSS
LOL!

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I wanted him to work out as our next QB forever, but he sucks so I see no reason to hang on to him.
Imagine having a QB who is present and involved in all team activities, asserts leadership, doesn't get chased down by helicopters and post selfie videos chugging every week....combined with not being terrible physically, mentally, and mechanically on the field.
That's my version of "I have a dream"
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Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...When he's no longer a Brown, the definition of cum guzzler changes.
Zombo
--I think Brady Quinn Homo Fan club's original working name was CumGuzzlers
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