Jonathan Paul Manziel
-
Probably is more just drunk Johnny or his people telling people that to try to get people to talk about something other than being searched down by helicopter.
Or just maybe he reads the Internet, watches TV or listen to the radio where that kind of talk is repeated over and over whether or not it substantiated.
WSS
Or just maybe he reads the Internet, watches TV or listen to the radio where that kind of talk is repeated over and over whether or not it substantiated.
WSS
That's when he's not hitting the bars, Steve.
Well you can't have that proof because first of all coach kept him on the bench for punishment and second of all last year we were the worst team in the league. No matter who played quarterback.
So if you say he made absolutely no progress and is completely unfit to play in the NFL then who can argue with you unless you start somewhere?
I haven't seen any sports writers or sports pundits express that sentiment though.
WSS
My opinion doesn't matter anymore Steve. Did he progress? Well if you take the first Bengals start as a baseline, there was no way to go but up. Horrible to mediocre is improvement, I suppose. Sashi has all but said they're moving on from JFF. I've said before we may not know all the details of Johnny's off field antics (including rehab) but the Browns do . It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Browns had hired a PI to keep track of Johnny's doings.
Sure, and we'll still be paying him. Not saying they'll give him anything good, but someone will take him in for a look.
Looking at sportstrac, seems we can cash Johnny out for around $4.3 million. Should another team pick him up (my odds are 50-50) it's gonna be for vet minimum, with a bunch of off-field performance clauses that will give a team the option to cut him for one misstep.
-
Or just maybe he reads the Internet, watches TV or listen to the radio where that kind of talk is repeated over and over whether or not it substantiated.
WSS
That's when he's not hitting the bars, Steve.
Well you can't have that proof because first of all coach kept him on the bench for punishment and second of all last year we were the worst team in the league. No matter who played quarterback.
So if you say he made absolutely no progress and is completely unfit to play in the NFL then who can argue with you unless you start somewhere?
I haven't seen any sports writers or sports pundits express that sentiment though.
WSS
My opinion doesn't matter anymore Steve. Did he progress? Well if you take the first Bengals start as a baseline, there was no way to go but up. Horrible to mediocre is improvement, I suppose. Sashi has all but said they're moving on from JFF. I've said before we may not know all the details of Johnny's off field antics (including rehab) but the Browns do . It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Browns had hired a PI to keep track of Johnny's doings.
Sure, and we'll still be paying him. Not saying they'll give him anything good, but someone will take him in for a look.
Looking at sportstrac, seems we can cash Johnny out for around $4.3 million. Should another team pick him up (my odds are 50-50) it's gonna be for vet minimum, with a bunch of off-field performance clauses that will give a team the option to cut him for one misstep.
That's when he's not hitting the bars, Steve.
My opinion doesn't matter anymore Steve. Did he progress? Well if you take the first Bengals start as a baseline, there was no way to go but up. Horrible to mediocre is improvement, I suppose. Sashi has all but said they're moving on from JFF. I've said before we may not know all the details of Johnny's off field antics (including rehab) but the Browns do . It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Browns had hired a PI to keep track of Johnny's doings.
Looking at sportstrac, seems we can cash Johnny out for around $4.3 million. Should another team pick him up (my odds are 50-50) it's gonna be for vet minimum, with a bunch of off-field performance clauses that will give a team the option to cut him for one misstep.
But him being a first round pick he probably has offset language like Weeden did.
-
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Agree. I hope he's successful. In somewhere like Buffalo. Or Washington. Somewhere it doesn't affect us.
-
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
-
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Agree. I hope he's successful. In somewhere like Buffalo. Or Washington. Somewhere it doesn't affect us.
-
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
It would seem so... Seems to be how in large part how I earned my stripes. Audaciously seeing Hoyer and McCown as better options in 2014 and 2015 respectively.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
lol... and the article did not even mention the merchandizing...
Think of the jersey sale!
-
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Three-reasons-why-the-Steelers-should-sign-Johnny-Manziel-43387310
Well let's hope that never happens.
And if it does I hope the haters are correct.
WSS
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
When he's no longer a Brown the definition of hater changes.
WSS
-
Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Zombo said:
Let's pray, and pray fucking hard ... that it happens.
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
Zombo
When he's no longer a Brown the definition of hater changes.
WSS
When he's no longer a Brown the definition of hater changes.
WSS
LOL!
-
I wanted him to work out as our next QB forever, but he sucks so I see no reason to hang on to him.
Imagine having a QB who is present and involved in all team activities, asserts leadership, doesn't get chased down by helicopters and post selfie videos chugging every week....combined with not being terrible physically, mentally, and mechanically on the field.
That's my version of "I have a dream"
-
Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...When he's no longer a Brown, the definition of cum guzzler changes.
Zombo
--I think Brady Quinn Homo Fan club's original working name was CumGuzzlers
-
Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...When he's no longer a Brown, the definition of cum guzzler changes.
Zombo
--I think Brady Quinn Homo Fan club's original working name was CumGuzzlers
Zombo said:
When he's no longer a Brown, the definition of cum guzzler changes.
Zombo
--I think Brady Quinn Homo Fan club's original working name was CumGuzzlers
Double LOL!
:lol: -
Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...When he's no longer a Brown, the definition of cum guzzler changes.
Zombo
--I think Brady Quinn Homo Fan club's original working name was CumGuzzlers
Zombo said:
When he's no longer a Brown, the definition of cum guzzler changes.
Zombo
--I think Brady Quinn Homo Fan club's original working name was CumGuzzlers
I wasn't aware it changed...
WSS
-
Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler...
Wouldn't know... never used any of those the terms...
As for hope... I had a little. Just not enough to turn me into Shallow Hal...
-
Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...Also, Tour Hoorta Zombo, Master dog unsympathetic etc etc is one considered a faggot or a cum guzzler or a loser or all of the above if he should, say, want the best in the way of success for a first round draft pick on the Cleveland Browns?
WSS
yeah, I know...Steve. of course I want all our first round picks to turn into perennial all-pros, like Joe Thomas. Seems you're holding on to hope of a first round pick whose ship is about to sail off into the sunset. And I don't think I've ever called anyone rude names that happen to disagree with me. I even refrain from using "idiot" whenever possible.
LOL Should football not work out I have a great summer gig for Johnny- greeter at your place on Put-in-Bay, unlimited drinks should keep him happy. .
-
Never before has so much been written, about someone who has done so little.
Never before has so much been written, about someone who has done so little.
Love your adaptation of this. FYI.....I had a cousin that was one of "the Few".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Few
Here is the photo from Wiki blown up. That is my cousin, right left to the guy in the bowler
(actually, my mother's first cousin...which I think makes him my second cousin)
-
Zombo said:
Is one a "hater" if they the love the Browns and therefore want better, more reliable options at QB?
It would seem so... Seems to be how in large part how I earned my stripes. Audaciously seeing Hoyer and McCown as better options in 2014 and 2015 respectively.
It would seem so... Seems to be how in large part how I earned my stripes. Audaciously seeing Hoyer and McCown as better options in 2014 and 2015 respectively.
Worst playoff performance I have ever seen. Chiefs vs. Texans, 2015:
Quarterback Brian Hoyer wilted against the Kansas City Chiefs, shining a light on the most glaring problem the Texans' franchise has had for most of its existence.
He was off target early and often. He threw four interceptions -- a career high -- and fumbled twice, losing one of them. Fans booed him heartily and often. There was even a brief chant for backup quarterback Brandon Weeden
I was wrong, yessir, Manziel is a colossal douche with substance abuse problems, but I wasn't wrong that Hoyer should be playing another sport.
-
It would seem so... Seems to be how in large part how I earned my stripes. Audaciously seeing Hoyer and McCown as better options in 2014 and 2015 respectively.
Worst playoff performance I have ever seen. Chiefs vs. Texans, 2015:
Quarterback Brian Hoyer wilted against the Kansas City Chiefs, shining a light on the most glaring problem the Texans' franchise has had for most of its existence.
He was off target early and often. He threw four interceptions -- a career high -- and fumbled twice, losing one of them. Fans booed him heartily and often. There was even a brief chant for backup quarterback Brandon Weeden
I was wrong, yessir, Manziel is a colossal douche with substance abuse problems, but I wasn't wrong that Hoyer should be playing another sport.
Worst playoff performance I have ever seen. Chiefs vs. Texans, 2015:
I was wrong, yessir, Manziel is a colossal douche with substance abuse problems, but I wasn't wrong that Hoyer should be playing another sport.
yeah, i don't know what happened to hoyer...he looked good for a while until he tore up his knee. however, he still looked decent during pettine first yr. at least the first 5-6 games. Then all the manziel shit started up and he seemed to get worse and worse. But no excuse for his performance with the texans...don't know what happened. I had high hopes for a while at least...as far as brandon weeden, it makes me fucking sick to see someone like him actually get paid good money to suck at his job big time...
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login