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  • @gftchris said:

    Just started watching some tape. Some things that stood out:

    Decent accuracy on out of pocket throws

    Decent but not great pocket accuracy.

    A lot of read option keeps, taking a lot of hits

    Questionable decision making - dumping off to a guy behind the line who is waiting to get drilled, throwing in to double coverage

    Makes some nice fade/rainbow passes

    "Interesting" footwork - mostly static, very wide stance and steps, sometimes crossing his feet when moving in pocket.

    Will watch more and see if these things repeat or any more stand out.

    Did you actually use tape?

    @the-gipper said:

    Did you actually use tape?

    There was some of it holding together a small part of my desk, so, yes, I suppose.

  • Dalton is a good QB on a very good team. But he was never a top tier prospect and his 2nd round selection said as much. So to my mind he's basically played to his potential. It's a shame that injury kept him from seeing whether or not he was finally ready to overcome his playoff... ummmm... jitters(?).

    @opal312 said:

    That's all you here on sports talk radio and sports websites, none are NFL ready. Is it too soon to think we take a QB in the first round? We have McCown another year and he didn't suck.

    Absolutely... and the same can be said for every QB drafted in the past 5 years save perhaps two. McC allows us the opportunity to take our time to prepare whomever we pick... up to a full year if need be.

    @hoorta said:

    As long as it's better than Ken Dorsey's.

    Yes, there is a league minimum...

    I wonder if it has changed much since the 80's??? I'd think so given the ever increasing size and speed of players... but then the rules have freed receivers more than ever. How would our heroes fare?

    Another time... another thread..

    @tour2ma said:

    McC allows us the opportunity to take our time to prepare whomever we pick... up to a full year if need be.

    Unfortunately Murphy's Law still applies here. He is one more concussion away from being done in the NFL and history shows he holds the ball far too long to avoid that before half the season is done. Whomever is our #2 is going out on the field at some point next season, rookie or not. Not a prediction, just about a 95% certainty. (How's that for my one shot at analytics? 😉 )

  • @tour2ma said:

    McC allows us the opportunity to take our time to prepare whomever we pick... up to a full year if need be.

    Unfortunately Murphy's Law still applies here. He is one more concussion away from being done in the NFL and history shows he holds the ball far too long to avoid that before half the season is done. Whomever is our #2 is going out on the field at some point next season, rookie or not. Not a prediction, just about a 95% certainty. (How's that for my one shot at analytics? 😉 )

    @texasag1969 said:

    Unfortunately Murphy's Law still applies here. He is one more concussion away from being done in the NFL and history shows he holds the ball far too long to avoid that before half the season is done. Whomever is our #2 is going out on the field at some point next season, rookie or not. Not a prediction, just about a 95% certainty. (How's that for my one shot at analytics? 😉 )

    Then we play Shaw or Austin Davis is need be. 🙂

  • Or is this Camp Gale:

    Whatever it is....it is just like a bunch of teenage chicks swooning over which boy these characters Bella/Katniss choose.

  • Or is this Camp Gale:

    Whatever it is....it is just like a bunch of teenage chicks swooning over which boy these characters Bella/Katniss choose.

    @the-gipper said:

    Or is this Camp Gale:

    Whatever it is....it is just like a bunch of teenage chicks swooning over which boy these characters Bella/Katniss choose.

    My poor daughter had to suffer through my comments in that first movie as an experienced Vietnam vet pointing out all the mistakes all the characters were making to insure their "non-survival". She would not take me to the others and I couldn't watch them anyway because the first one had so many glaring mistakes it was laughable. 🥷😁

    Funny thing is she has always told her friends that when the Apocalypse comes she's calling me to come save her. 😆

  • @the-gipper said:

    Or is this Camp Gale:

    Whatever it is....it is just like a bunch of teenage chicks swooning over which boy these characters Bella/Katniss choose.

    My poor daughter had to suffer through my comments in that first movie as an experienced Vietnam vet pointing out all the mistakes all the characters were making to insure their "non-survival". She would not take me to the others and I couldn't watch them anyway because the first one had so many glaring mistakes it was laughable. 🥷😁

    Funny thing is she has always told her friends that when the Apocalypse comes she's calling me to come save her. 😆

    @texasag1969 said:

    My poor daughter had to suffer through my comments in that first movie as an experienced Vietnam vet pointing out all the mistakes all the characters were making to insure their "non-survival". She would not take me to the others and I couldn't watch them anyway because the first one had so many glaring mistakes it was laughable. 🥷😁

    Funny thing is she has always told her friends that when the Apocalypse comes she's calling me to come save her. 😆

    I pretty much liked the Hunger Games movies. 1000 times more than Twilight. Actually the last one was the worst one.

  • @tour2ma said:

    McC allows us the opportunity to take our time to prepare whomever we pick... up to a full year if need be.

    Unfortunately Murphy's Law still applies here. He is one more concussion away from being done in the NFL and history shows he holds the ball far too long to avoid that before half the season is done. Whomever is our #2 is going out on the field at some point next season, rookie or not. Not a prediction, just about a 95% certainty. (How's that for my one shot at analytics? 😉 )

    @texasag1969 said:

    Unfortunately Murphy's Law still applies here. He is one more concussion away from being done in the NFL and history shows he holds the ball far too long to avoid that before half the season is done. Whomever is our #2 is going out on the field at some point next season, rookie or not. Not a prediction, just about a 95% certainty. (How's that for my one shot at analytics? 😉 )

    Pretty bad... an analytics guy would say "4 sigma". 😉

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Unfortunately Murphy's Law still applies here. He is one more concussion away from being done in the NFL and history shows he holds the ball far too long to avoid that before half the season is done. Whomever is our #2 is going out on the field at some point next season, rookie or not. Not a prediction, just about a 95% certainty. (How's that for my one shot at analytics? 😉 )

    Pretty bad... an analytics guy would say "4 sigma". 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Pretty bad... an analytics guy would say "4 sigma". 😉

    it's six sigma events that are the black swans.
  • Heading to pick up my pizza - sadly no alcohol for a while, loaded up all the videos of Wentz I could find that I haven't already watched.

    The weekend starts.......now.

  • NFL Executive Says He Wouldn't Take Carson Wentz In Round 1
    NFL.com's Lance Zierlein spoke with two NFL executives and neither were very impressed with North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz.

    "One said 'Boy, that North Dakota State kid is way overrated,'" Zierlein reported on his podcast. "And the other one texted me and said 'After watching him for a full week, there is no way I would draft Carson Wentz in the first round. Now, by most media accounts, the draft media, Carson Wentz did just fine. A lot of people called him a winner of draft day. Depends on what you're looking for. But that's an example of how people can see these prospects very, very differently."

    Following a strong Senior Bowl showing, it seemed like Wentz had locked up his first round draft status. That's likely still the case, as the two executives seem to be in the minority regarding Wentz.

    http://www.chatsports.com/nfl/a/latest-n...-and-more-26447

    I just do not see a QB worth a top five or top ten pick in this draft...jmo.
  • Heading to pick up my pizza - sadly no alcohol for a while, loaded up all the videos of Wentz I could find that I haven't already watched.

    The weekend starts.......now.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Heading to pick up my pizza - sadly no alcohol for a while, loaded up all the videos of Wentz I could find that I haven't already watched.

    Dedication or Dr's orders?

    I keep trying to like Wentz more as it'd make draft day so much easier if I did not have a strong preference between two QBs... but so far I can't get there.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Unfortunately Murphy's Law still applies here. He is one more concussion away from being done in the NFL and history shows he holds the ball far too long to avoid that before half the season is done. Whomever is our #2 is going out on the field at some point next season, rookie or not. Not a prediction, just about a 95% certainty. (How's that for my one shot at analytics? 😉 )

    Pretty bad... an analytics guy would say "4 sigma". 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Pretty bad... an analytics guy would say "4 sigma". 😉

    I'm an old stat guy so I call it 2 standard deviations. 😆

    Plus that has a better ring for an old deviant like me. 😛

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Heading to pick up my pizza - sadly no alcohol for a while, loaded up all the videos of Wentz I could find that I haven't already watched.

    Dedication or Dr's orders?

    I keep trying to like Wentz more as it'd make draft day so much easier if I did not have a strong preference between two QBs... but so far I can't get there.

    @tour2ma said:

    Dedication or Dr's orders?

    I keep trying to like Wentz more as it'd make draft day so much easier if I did not have a strong preference between two QBs... but so far I can't get there.

    The former of the two. The off-season becomes my 'in season'.

    Now that I have Wentz fresh in my mind and a short checklist of things I want to compare, I'll head over to watch Goff and get some input from their 'camp' thread.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Dedication or Dr's orders?

    I keep trying to like Wentz more as it'd make draft day so much easier if I did not have a strong preference between two QBs... but so far I can't get there.

    The former of the two. The off-season becomes my 'in season'.

    Now that I have Wentz fresh in my mind and a short checklist of things I want to compare, I'll head over to watch Goff and get some input from their 'camp' thread.

    @tiamat63 said:

    The former of the two. The off-season becomes my 'in season'.

    Now that I have Wentz fresh in my mind and a short checklist of things I want to compare, I'll head over to watch Goff and get some input from their 'camp' thread.

    Good to see you back and ready to go for an exciting off season ahead Tia!

  • @tiamat63 said:

    The former of the two. The off-season becomes my 'in season'.

    Now that I have Wentz fresh in my mind and a short checklist of things I want to compare, I'll head over to watch Goff and get some input from their 'camp' thread.

    Good to see you back and ready to go for an exciting off season ahead Tia!

    @flugel said:

    Good to see you back and ready to go for an exciting off season ahead Tia!

    Thanks, bud. I am excited to have Hue on board plus our new staff additions.

    This past season took quite a bit out of me. By week 13 I was hardly tuning in. I have a feeling once the combine rolls around I'll have the draft fever again.

    As for my tape on Wentz - I'm searching for full games on Goff and found one against ASU. Going to watch that tonight as most of what I've seen has been cut ups of the two.

  • Www.draftbreakdown.com has several Goff videos including Stanford and USC.

  • @flugel said:

    Good to see you back and ready to go for an exciting off season ahead Tia!

    Thanks, bud. I am excited to have Hue on board plus our new staff additions.

    This past season took quite a bit out of me. By week 13 I was hardly tuning in. I have a feeling once the combine rolls around I'll have the draft fever again.

    As for my tape on Wentz - I'm searching for full games on Goff and found one against ASU. Going to watch that tonight as most of what I've seen has been cut ups of the two.

    @tiamat63 said:

    As for my tape on Wentz - I'm searching for full games on Goff and found one against ASU. Going to watch that tonight as most of what I've seen has been cut ups of the two.

    ???????????? Studying their hand off technique?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    As for my tape on Wentz - I'm searching for full games on Goff and found one against ASU. Going to watch that tonight as most of what I've seen has been cut ups of the two.

    ???????????? Studying their hand off technique?

    @tour2ma said:

    ???????????? Studying their hand off technique?

    Hey, its more important than you know.

    I just wanted to see a full version, out of curiosity really. Also wanted to break down what Cal's running game looks like, what kind of calls a defense likes to throw at Goff over the course of a game, etc etc.

    That said.... I think I'm coming around on Goff and his accuracy.

  • So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

    I've decided I might be switching parties.

  • So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

    I've decided I might be switching parties.

    @tiamat63 said:

    So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

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