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  • NFL Executive Says He Wouldn't Take Carson Wentz In Round 1
    NFL.com's Lance Zierlein spoke with two NFL executives and neither were very impressed with North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz.

    "One said 'Boy, that North Dakota State kid is way overrated,'" Zierlein reported on his podcast. "And the other one texted me and said 'After watching him for a full week, there is no way I would draft Carson Wentz in the first round. Now, by most media accounts, the draft media, Carson Wentz did just fine. A lot of people called him a winner of draft day. Depends on what you're looking for. But that's an example of how people can see these prospects very, very differently."

    Following a strong Senior Bowl showing, it seemed like Wentz had locked up his first round draft status. That's likely still the case, as the two executives seem to be in the minority regarding Wentz.

    http://www.chatsports.com/nfl/a/latest-n...-and-more-26447

    I just do not see a QB worth a top five or top ten pick in this draft...jmo.
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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Heading to pick up my pizza - sadly no alcohol for a while, loaded up all the videos of Wentz I could find that I haven't already watched.

    The weekend starts.......now.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Heading to pick up my pizza - sadly no alcohol for a while, loaded up all the videos of Wentz I could find that I haven't already watched.

    Dedication or Dr's orders?

    I keep trying to like Wentz more as it'd make draft day so much easier if I did not have a strong preference between two QBs... but so far I can't get there.

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    @texasag1969 said:

    Unfortunately Murphy's Law still applies here. He is one more concussion away from being done in the NFL and history shows he holds the ball far too long to avoid that before half the season is done. Whomever is our #2 is going out on the field at some point next season, rookie or not. Not a prediction, just about a 95% certainty. (How's that for my one shot at analytics? 😉 )

    Pretty bad... an analytics guy would say "4 sigma". 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Pretty bad... an analytics guy would say "4 sigma". 😉

    I'm an old stat guy so I call it 2 standard deviations. 😆

    Plus that has a better ring for an old deviant like me. 😛

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    @tiamat63 said:

    Heading to pick up my pizza - sadly no alcohol for a while, loaded up all the videos of Wentz I could find that I haven't already watched.

    Dedication or Dr's orders?

    I keep trying to like Wentz more as it'd make draft day so much easier if I did not have a strong preference between two QBs... but so far I can't get there.

    @tour2ma said:

    Dedication or Dr's orders?

    I keep trying to like Wentz more as it'd make draft day so much easier if I did not have a strong preference between two QBs... but so far I can't get there.

    The former of the two. The off-season becomes my 'in season'.

    Now that I have Wentz fresh in my mind and a short checklist of things I want to compare, I'll head over to watch Goff and get some input from their 'camp' thread.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @tour2ma said:

    Dedication or Dr's orders?

    I keep trying to like Wentz more as it'd make draft day so much easier if I did not have a strong preference between two QBs... but so far I can't get there.

    The former of the two. The off-season becomes my 'in season'.

    Now that I have Wentz fresh in my mind and a short checklist of things I want to compare, I'll head over to watch Goff and get some input from their 'camp' thread.

    @tiamat63 said:

    The former of the two. The off-season becomes my 'in season'.

    Now that I have Wentz fresh in my mind and a short checklist of things I want to compare, I'll head over to watch Goff and get some input from their 'camp' thread.

    Good to see you back and ready to go for an exciting off season ahead Tia!

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    @tiamat63 said:

    The former of the two. The off-season becomes my 'in season'.

    Now that I have Wentz fresh in my mind and a short checklist of things I want to compare, I'll head over to watch Goff and get some input from their 'camp' thread.

    Good to see you back and ready to go for an exciting off season ahead Tia!

    @flugel said:

    Good to see you back and ready to go for an exciting off season ahead Tia!

    Thanks, bud. I am excited to have Hue on board plus our new staff additions.

    This past season took quite a bit out of me. By week 13 I was hardly tuning in. I have a feeling once the combine rolls around I'll have the draft fever again.

    As for my tape on Wentz - I'm searching for full games on Goff and found one against ASU. Going to watch that tonight as most of what I've seen has been cut ups of the two.

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  • Www.draftbreakdown.com has several Goff videos including Stanford and USC.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @flugel said:

    Good to see you back and ready to go for an exciting off season ahead Tia!

    Thanks, bud. I am excited to have Hue on board plus our new staff additions.

    This past season took quite a bit out of me. By week 13 I was hardly tuning in. I have a feeling once the combine rolls around I'll have the draft fever again.

    As for my tape on Wentz - I'm searching for full games on Goff and found one against ASU. Going to watch that tonight as most of what I've seen has been cut ups of the two.

    @tiamat63 said:

    As for my tape on Wentz - I'm searching for full games on Goff and found one against ASU. Going to watch that tonight as most of what I've seen has been cut ups of the two.

    ???????????? Studying their hand off technique?

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    @tiamat63 said:

    As for my tape on Wentz - I'm searching for full games on Goff and found one against ASU. Going to watch that tonight as most of what I've seen has been cut ups of the two.

    ???????????? Studying their hand off technique?

    @tour2ma said:

    ???????????? Studying their hand off technique?

    Hey, its more important than you know.

    I just wanted to see a full version, out of curiosity really. Also wanted to break down what Cal's running game looks like, what kind of calls a defense likes to throw at Goff over the course of a game, etc etc.

    That said.... I think I'm coming around on Goff and his accuracy.

  • So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

    I've decided I might be switching parties.

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

    I've decided I might be switching parties.

    @tiamat63 said:

    So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

    I've decided I might be switching parties.

    @tiamat63 said:

    So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

    I've decided I might be switching parties.

    lol... going to go out on a limb here and guess you are considering a shorter prospect.

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

    I've decided I might be switching parties.

    @tiamat63 said:

    So.... Who is going volunteering to take my place as president of camp Wentz?

    I've decided I might be switching parties.

    I will, what the hell.

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  • I was reading where Goff has more zip to his intermediate and short range passes,

    which would be better playing in the weather in Cleveland.

    Then I read where Wentz has the bigger arm...

    so confusing.

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  • Another 4th round grade?

    Verbal comments do not seem to jive with the written slides between video segments.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • I also remember there being some analysts that weren't high on Bortles either, and he's an excellent example of what a guy can do when a team is patient and provides him with weapons. The Jags went from a truly awful WR corp, to one of the best in the damn league. Once they get a defense...watch out. Yes...the Jags...watch out. They lost their first round pick Fowler in the damn preseason (or OTA's...I don't remember). It's possible they can draft Bosa or Ramsey with their first rounder this year, so they could get basically two elite players on their defense in 2016. That's pretty insane.

    Wentz has some similarities to Bortles IMO, and I also think he'll require a bit of patience. The stark contrast of the college game to the pros is ridiculous, but playing at a small school would exacerbate the difference. I really wish that there was a consensus on who the best QB was in the draft, as that sure would make me feel a helluva lot better, but we have to play the hand we're dealt, right? We need to trust our talent gurus and essentially pray to get it right. Wentz also makes sense for us because he won't have to play right away. Sure, it'd be great if Wentz somehow beat out McCown, but I don't see that happening.

  • Not sure why I'm doing Camp Wentz's work for them, but here:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-what-qb-carson-wentz-means-to-state-of-north-dakota-011222800.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Wentz, Wentz, Wentz, Wentz, Wentz!!!!!

  • Someone on NFL Network mocked Carson to us today. Actually had Goff sliding all the way to SF at 7.

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