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Obamao forces higher gas prices. Needs more marxist redistribution of wealth funds

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  • The Cysko Kid T Conversation Starter Reacting Well Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
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    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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    Take that money out of the f-35

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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      T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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      Plus my house uses heating oil. Nope. Can't have it.

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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        I can live with a short-term increase. If the money was going to something worthwhile and if they are assumed that tax oil prices skyrocket again.

        How much do you want to bet that when that time comes they want?

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        • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

          No one bitched too much when the price increases were just from people blaming whatever they want on keeping gas near $4 a gallon.

          Now that we might have a modest increase to fix roads and bridges, lets throw a fit.

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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          @logicisforsquares said:

          No one bitched too much when the price increases were just from people blaming whatever they want on keeping gas near $4 a gallon.

          Now that we might have a modest increase to fix roads and bridges, lets throw a fit.

          The consumer had no choice, you had to pay the price at the pump when gas prices were sky high (or get a bicycle). We had to grin and bear it. Now that gas prices have come down (temporarily) the politicians fixate right away on placing a tax. Can't let the American consumer who for years was paying exorbitant gas prices now catch a break with cheaper gas.

          What I don't understand either is how gas stations coordinate together when they raise gas prices. Speedway seems to be the quickest on the draw to raise or sometimes lower gas prices and within the hour about every other gas station in town has done the same. It always seemed to me that gas stations had already paid a set price for the gas they have in their ground tanks so it seems logical the next increase would be when they paid for the next shipment of gas?

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            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            Our infrastructure is falling apart in this country. The roads, bridges, building, etc. We have to do something. Our highways are an embarrassment.

            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

              Our infrastructure is falling apart in this country. The roads, bridges, building, etc. We have to do something. Our highways are an embarrassment.

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              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              Our infrastructure is falling apart in this country. The roads, bridges, building, etc. We have to do something. Our highways are an embarrassment.

              I don't disagree Diehard but it bothers me the waste that goes on with government. It would have been nice if Obama would have used that trillion dollar stimulus pork bill solely on infrastructure instead of throwing most of it away on every pet pork project the democrats could think of.

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              • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                Our infrastructure is falling apart in this country. The roads, bridges, building, etc. We have to do something. Our highways are an embarrassment.

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                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Our infrastructure is falling apart in this country. The roads, bridges, building, etc. We have to do something. Our highways are an embarrassment.

                Just wait for a bridge to collapse and then people will give a shit.

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                  Take that money out of the f-35

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                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                  Take that money out of the f-35

                  For real. $1.5 trillion could probably have cured Alzheimer's and fixed several roads and bridges.

                  I say Alzheimer's because apparently we're fairly close to a cure - we know the cure "in theory" just need the money to develop it.

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                    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                    If the price of fossil fuels don't up soon they are going to drive the nuclear industry out of my area, one plant already phasing out.

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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      My objection is, regardless of the need for funds to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure is:

                      Spending won't be cut anywhere else, except for the military,

                      per the liberal leftist "dems".

                      When gas prices bounce back up to nearly 4 bucks and higher,

                      that 22 cents will be very bad. Many companies have big

                      energy bills. They will have to raise their prices, like trucking companies, etc.

                      Then you have the impetus for inflation surge.

                      and temporary taxes usually become permanent, because of more and more and more spending.

                      It must stop. We are going to be at least very, very close to 22 TRILLION dollars in our national debt.

                      Big, serious, looming trouble closer and closer all the time.

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                        My objection is, regardless of the need for funds to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure is:

                        Spending won't be cut anywhere else, except for the military,

                        per the liberal leftist "dems".

                        When gas prices bounce back up to nearly 4 bucks and higher,

                        that 22 cents will be very bad. Many companies have big

                        energy bills. They will have to raise their prices, like trucking companies, etc.

                        Then you have the impetus for inflation surge.

                        and temporary taxes usually become permanent, because of more and more and more spending.

                        It must stop. We are going to be at least very, very close to 22 TRILLION dollars in our national debt.

                        Big, serious, looming trouble closer and closer all the time.

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                        B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        My objection is, regardless of the need for funds to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure is:

                        Spending won't be cut anywhere else, except for the military,

                        per the liberal leftist "dems".

                        When gas prices bounce back up to nearly 4 bucks and higher,

                        that 22 cents will be very bad. Many companies have big

                        energy bills. They will have to raise their prices, like trucking companies, etc.

                        Then you have the impetus for inflation surge.

                        and temporary taxes usually become permanent, because of more and more and more spending.

                        It must stop. We are going to be at least very, very close to 22 TRILLION dollars in our national debt.

                        Big, serious, looming trouble closer and closer all the time.

                        How about the creation of Department of Defense II in Homeland Security? Oh wait you can't say anything bad about the military or law enforcement or you're unpatriotic.

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                        • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          no, with liberals, it's ALWAYS law enforcement or the military.

                          Because they are ingrained with a free stuff for voters and political power pandering.

                          There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                          But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                          remain at the state level.

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                            no, with liberals, it's ALWAYS law enforcement or the military.

                            Because they are ingrained with a free stuff for voters and political power pandering.

                            There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                            But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                            remain at the state level.

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                            B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            no, with liberals, it's ALWAYS law enforcement or the military.

                            Because they are ingrained with a free stuff for voters and political power pandering.

                            There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                            But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                            remain at the state level.

                            Yeah one division for the environment, education, state affairs, energy, etc.

                            Two for the fear mongers.

                            And trust me I'm all for a curb on entitlements, unfortunately our economy is going to need more than the trickle down of wealth from the benevolence of the aristocracy

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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              no, with liberals, it's ALWAYS law enforcement or the military.

                              Because they are ingrained with a free stuff for voters and political power pandering.

                              There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                              But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                              remain at the state level.

                              Yeah one division for the environment, education, state affairs, energy, etc.

                              Two for the fear mongers.

                              And trust me I'm all for a curb on entitlements, unfortunately our economy is going to need more than the trickle down of wealth from the benevolence of the aristocracy

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                              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                              @baconhound said:

                              Yeah one division for the environment, education, state affairs, energy, etc.

                              Two for the fear mongers.

                              And trust me I'm all for a curb on entitlements, unfortunately our economy is going to need more than the trickle down of wealth from the benevolence of the aristocracy

                              I have no doubt that more redistribution will make everyone smarter, better looking, happier and more productive.

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                "the govt is wasteful"

                                "we can't cut military spending"

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  "sigh"

                                  referring to my earlier comments:

                                  "There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                                  But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                                  remain at the state level."

                                  correction:

                                  "ONLY military spending"

                                  I was IN THE MILITARY, woody. Of course there's waste in the military.

                                  And most other parts of our gov.

                                  But repetitive, overlapping gov depts is very costly, and usurps the power

                                  of the states over state concerns.. Fed control over ponds, mud puddles and ditches

                                  is stupid. States like Arizona, etc, surely WISH they had ponds, and mud puddles..

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                                    @baconhound said:

                                    Yeah one division for the environment, education, state affairs, energy, etc.

                                    Two for the fear mongers.

                                    And trust me I'm all for a curb on entitlements, unfortunately our economy is going to need more than the trickle down of wealth from the benevolence of the aristocracy

                                    I have no doubt that more redistribution will make everyone smarter, better looking, happier and more productive.

                                    WSS

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                                    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    I have no doubt that more redistribution will make everyone smarter, better looking, happier and more productive.

                                    WSS

                                    The problem is we have complex problems in this country and many want to solve them with knee-jerk simple responses.

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                                      "sigh"

                                      referring to my earlier comments:

                                      "There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                                      But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                                      remain at the state level."

                                      correction:

                                      "ONLY military spending"

                                      I was IN THE MILITARY, woody. Of course there's waste in the military.

                                      And most other parts of our gov.

                                      But repetitive, overlapping gov depts is very costly, and usurps the power

                                      of the states over state concerns.. Fed control over ponds, mud puddles and ditches

                                      is stupid. States like Arizona, etc, surely WISH they had ponds, and mud puddles..

                                      BaconHound B One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                                      B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      "sigh"

                                      referring to my earlier comments:

                                      "There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                                      But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                                      remain at the state level."

                                      correction:

                                      "ONLY military spending"

                                      I was IN THE MILITARY, woody. Of course there's waste in the military.

                                      And most other parts of our gov.

                                      But repetitive, overlapping gov depts is very costly, and usurps the power

                                      of the states over state concerns.. Fed control over ponds, mud puddles and ditches

                                      is stupid. States like Arizona, etc, surely WISH they had ponds, and mud puddles..

                                      States rights vs Federal rule was addressed in the Civil War and why people try to use the US Constitution vs their State Constitution to prove a point.

                                      A very clear example of the wasteful aspect of a single level of government is Homeland Security but we won't talk about that. We will just rehash the Federal government infringing on State and local authorities.

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        I have no doubt that more redistribution will make everyone smarter, better looking, happier and more productive.

                                        WSS

                                        The problem is we have complex problems in this country and many want to solve them with knee-jerk simple responses.

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                                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                        @baconhound said:

                                        The problem is we have complex problems in this country and many want to solve them with knee-jerk simple responses.

                                        Well even if there was the tiniest possibility that any of those problems could be solved how could that happen within a couple hours of pre-programmed sound bites?

                                        WSS

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                                        • W Westside Steve

                                          @baconhound said:

                                          The problem is we have complex problems in this country and many want to solve them with knee-jerk simple responses.

                                          Well even if there was the tiniest possibility that any of those problems could be solved how could that happen within a couple hours of pre-programmed sound bites?

                                          WSS

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                                          B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          Well even if there was the tiniest possibility that any of those problems could be solved how could that happen within a couple hours of pre-programmed sound bites?

                                          WSS

                                          Personally I don't trust anyone who thinks spending $500 million to secure a 4 year contract worth $50 million is a good system.

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