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Obamao forces higher gas prices. Needs more marxist redistribution of wealth funds

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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Our infrastructure is falling apart in this country. The roads, bridges, building, etc. We have to do something. Our highways are an embarrassment.

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    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Our infrastructure is falling apart in this country. The roads, bridges, building, etc. We have to do something. Our highways are an embarrassment.

    Just wait for a bridge to collapse and then people will give a shit.

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      Take that money out of the f-35

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      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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      @the-cysko-kid said:

      Take that money out of the f-35

      For real. $1.5 trillion could probably have cured Alzheimer's and fixed several roads and bridges.

      I say Alzheimer's because apparently we're fairly close to a cure - we know the cure "in theory" just need the money to develop it.

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        B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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        If the price of fossil fuels don't up soon they are going to drive the nuclear industry out of my area, one plant already phasing out.

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          My objection is, regardless of the need for funds to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure is:

          Spending won't be cut anywhere else, except for the military,

          per the liberal leftist "dems".

          When gas prices bounce back up to nearly 4 bucks and higher,

          that 22 cents will be very bad. Many companies have big

          energy bills. They will have to raise their prices, like trucking companies, etc.

          Then you have the impetus for inflation surge.

          and temporary taxes usually become permanent, because of more and more and more spending.

          It must stop. We are going to be at least very, very close to 22 TRILLION dollars in our national debt.

          Big, serious, looming trouble closer and closer all the time.

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            My objection is, regardless of the need for funds to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure is:

            Spending won't be cut anywhere else, except for the military,

            per the liberal leftist "dems".

            When gas prices bounce back up to nearly 4 bucks and higher,

            that 22 cents will be very bad. Many companies have big

            energy bills. They will have to raise their prices, like trucking companies, etc.

            Then you have the impetus for inflation surge.

            and temporary taxes usually become permanent, because of more and more and more spending.

            It must stop. We are going to be at least very, very close to 22 TRILLION dollars in our national debt.

            Big, serious, looming trouble closer and closer all the time.

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            B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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            @calfoxwc said:

            My objection is, regardless of the need for funds to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure is:

            Spending won't be cut anywhere else, except for the military,

            per the liberal leftist "dems".

            When gas prices bounce back up to nearly 4 bucks and higher,

            that 22 cents will be very bad. Many companies have big

            energy bills. They will have to raise their prices, like trucking companies, etc.

            Then you have the impetus for inflation surge.

            and temporary taxes usually become permanent, because of more and more and more spending.

            It must stop. We are going to be at least very, very close to 22 TRILLION dollars in our national debt.

            Big, serious, looming trouble closer and closer all the time.

            How about the creation of Department of Defense II in Homeland Security? Oh wait you can't say anything bad about the military or law enforcement or you're unpatriotic.

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              no, with liberals, it's ALWAYS law enforcement or the military.

              Because they are ingrained with a free stuff for voters and political power pandering.

              There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

              But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

              remain at the state level.

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                no, with liberals, it's ALWAYS law enforcement or the military.

                Because they are ingrained with a free stuff for voters and political power pandering.

                There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                remain at the state level.

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                @calfoxwc said:

                no, with liberals, it's ALWAYS law enforcement or the military.

                Because they are ingrained with a free stuff for voters and political power pandering.

                There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                remain at the state level.

                Yeah one division for the environment, education, state affairs, energy, etc.

                Two for the fear mongers.

                And trust me I'm all for a curb on entitlements, unfortunately our economy is going to need more than the trickle down of wealth from the benevolence of the aristocracy

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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  no, with liberals, it's ALWAYS law enforcement or the military.

                  Because they are ingrained with a free stuff for voters and political power pandering.

                  There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                  But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                  remain at the state level.

                  Yeah one division for the environment, education, state affairs, energy, etc.

                  Two for the fear mongers.

                  And trust me I'm all for a curb on entitlements, unfortunately our economy is going to need more than the trickle down of wealth from the benevolence of the aristocracy

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                  @baconhound said:

                  Yeah one division for the environment, education, state affairs, energy, etc.

                  Two for the fear mongers.

                  And trust me I'm all for a curb on entitlements, unfortunately our economy is going to need more than the trickle down of wealth from the benevolence of the aristocracy

                  I have no doubt that more redistribution will make everyone smarter, better looking, happier and more productive.

                  WSS

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    "the govt is wasteful"

                    "we can't cut military spending"

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      "sigh"

                      referring to my earlier comments:

                      "There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                      But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                      remain at the state level."

                      correction:

                      "ONLY military spending"

                      I was IN THE MILITARY, woody. Of course there's waste in the military.

                      And most other parts of our gov.

                      But repetitive, overlapping gov depts is very costly, and usurps the power

                      of the states over state concerns.. Fed control over ponds, mud puddles and ditches

                      is stupid. States like Arizona, etc, surely WISH they had ponds, and mud puddles..

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                        @baconhound said:

                        Yeah one division for the environment, education, state affairs, energy, etc.

                        Two for the fear mongers.

                        And trust me I'm all for a curb on entitlements, unfortunately our economy is going to need more than the trickle down of wealth from the benevolence of the aristocracy

                        I have no doubt that more redistribution will make everyone smarter, better looking, happier and more productive.

                        WSS

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        I have no doubt that more redistribution will make everyone smarter, better looking, happier and more productive.

                        WSS

                        The problem is we have complex problems in this country and many want to solve them with knee-jerk simple responses.

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                        • C calfoxwc

                          "sigh"

                          referring to my earlier comments:

                          "There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                          But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                          remain at the state level."

                          correction:

                          "ONLY military spending"

                          I was IN THE MILITARY, woody. Of course there's waste in the military.

                          And most other parts of our gov.

                          But repetitive, overlapping gov depts is very costly, and usurps the power

                          of the states over state concerns.. Fed control over ponds, mud puddles and ditches

                          is stupid. States like Arizona, etc, surely WISH they had ponds, and mud puddles..

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                          B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          "sigh"

                          referring to my earlier comments:

                          "There is a lot of waste in gov, that's a great place to start.

                          But libs won't talk about the fed EPA, the fed NEA,,, etc etc, orgs that should just

                          remain at the state level."

                          correction:

                          "ONLY military spending"

                          I was IN THE MILITARY, woody. Of course there's waste in the military.

                          And most other parts of our gov.

                          But repetitive, overlapping gov depts is very costly, and usurps the power

                          of the states over state concerns.. Fed control over ponds, mud puddles and ditches

                          is stupid. States like Arizona, etc, surely WISH they had ponds, and mud puddles..

                          States rights vs Federal rule was addressed in the Civil War and why people try to use the US Constitution vs their State Constitution to prove a point.

                          A very clear example of the wasteful aspect of a single level of government is Homeland Security but we won't talk about that. We will just rehash the Federal government infringing on State and local authorities.

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            I have no doubt that more redistribution will make everyone smarter, better looking, happier and more productive.

                            WSS

                            The problem is we have complex problems in this country and many want to solve them with knee-jerk simple responses.

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                            @baconhound said:

                            The problem is we have complex problems in this country and many want to solve them with knee-jerk simple responses.

                            Well even if there was the tiniest possibility that any of those problems could be solved how could that happen within a couple hours of pre-programmed sound bites?

                            WSS

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                              @baconhound said:

                              The problem is we have complex problems in this country and many want to solve them with knee-jerk simple responses.

                              Well even if there was the tiniest possibility that any of those problems could be solved how could that happen within a couple hours of pre-programmed sound bites?

                              WSS

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                              @westside-steve said:

                              Well even if there was the tiniest possibility that any of those problems could be solved how could that happen within a couple hours of pre-programmed sound bites?

                              WSS

                              Personally I don't trust anyone who thinks spending $500 million to secure a 4 year contract worth $50 million is a good system.

                              Citizens Unite!

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                                @westside-steve said:

                                Well even if there was the tiniest possibility that any of those problems could be solved how could that happen within a couple hours of pre-programmed sound bites?

                                WSS

                                Personally I don't trust anyone who thinks spending $500 million to secure a 4 year contract worth $50 million is a good system.

                                Citizens Unite!

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                                @baconhound said:

                                Personally I don't trust anyone who thinks spending $500 million to secure a 4 year contract worth $50 million is a good system.

                                Citizens Unite!

                                I honestly don't think it's for the money. Sure every politician wines up rich as a bitch after they get out of office but it's the glory, I guarantee it.

                                WSS

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                                  @baconhound said:

                                  Personally I don't trust anyone who thinks spending $500 million to secure a 4 year contract worth $50 million is a good system.

                                  Citizens Unite!

                                  I honestly don't think it's for the money. Sure every politician wines up rich as a bitch after they get out of office but it's the glory, I guarantee it.

                                  WSS

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  I honestly don't think it's for the money. Sure every politician wines up rich as a bitch after they get out of office but it's the glory, I guarantee it.

                                  WSS

                                  Oh it's not for the money but no one has stopped the insanity that is campaign finance. It looks bad. We claim that we are this great republic when we are closer to an oligarchy than many will admit.

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    I honestly don't think it's for the money. Sure every politician wines up rich as a bitch after they get out of office but it's the glory, I guarantee it.

                                    WSS

                                    Oh it's not for the money but no one has stopped the insanity that is campaign finance. It looks bad. We claim that we are this great republic when we are closer to an oligarchy than many will admit.

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                                    @baconhound said:

                                    Oh it's not for the money but no one has stopped the insanity that is campaign finance. It looks bad. We claim that we are this great republic when we are closer to an oligarchy than many will admit.

                                    I understand but you don't have much choice with a nation his large is this.

                                    WSS

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                                      @baconhound said:

                                      Oh it's not for the money but no one has stopped the insanity that is campaign finance. It looks bad. We claim that we are this great republic when we are closer to an oligarchy than many will admit.

                                      I understand but you don't have much choice with a nation his large is this.

                                      WSS

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                                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      I understand but you don't have much choice with a nation his large is this.

                                      WSS

                                      Why's that?

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        I understand but you don't have much choice with a nation his large is this.

                                        WSS

                                        Why's that?

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                                        Why's that?

                                        It should be obvious sir. Ask yourself why should every American not have an equal chance at the presidential election?

                                        Why shouldn't my own personal candidacy be worth as much as anyones? And if it is how do I get my message to every person in the country? How do I distinguish mine from die hard or Cal or Cleve or BB?

                                        We could have hundreds of thousands of candidates with no way to tell them apart without media and there is no media without money.

                                        WSS

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                                          @gftchris said:

                                          Why's that?

                                          It should be obvious sir. Ask yourself why should every American not have an equal chance at the presidential election?

                                          Why shouldn't my own personal candidacy be worth as much as anyones? And if it is how do I get my message to every person in the country? How do I distinguish mine from die hard or Cal or Cleve or BB?

                                          We could have hundreds of thousands of candidates with no way to tell them apart without media and there is no media without money.

                                          WSS

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                                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          It should be obvious sir. Ask yourself why should every American not have an equal chance at the presidential election?

                                          Why shouldn't my own personal candidacy be worth as much as anyones? And if it is how do I get my message to every person in the country? How do I distinguish mine from die hard or Cal or Cleve or BB?

                                          We could have hundreds of thousands of candidates with no way to tell them apart without media and there is no media without money.

                                          WSS

                                          Sure but that doesn't mean that campaign finance has to come in big lumps from 'interested parties' such as wall street, oil or pharma.

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