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  • VesnaKociper said:

    Cam Tarkenton needs a new offensive line. hey suck. If I were the Pathers I would forget about almost going undefeated and clobbering the Cardinals. THey need to draft MORE OL MORE OL I am telling you, that's the fucking problem.... Ht Offensive line.

    When Cam holds on too long and gets clobbered? Its the OL

    When Cam has explosive performances? It's the OL

    When recievers make great catches? Yep, It's the OL

    Field goal is made? The OL

    Field Goal missed? It's the OL

    Short punt? The OL sucks.

    Interceptions? Its the OL

    The OL is so fucking important, these lard asses are EVERYTHING. It's so simple to see. More lard asses, More Lard asses. 11 OL on the field at the same time. THAT's how the Browns are gonna win it all.

    So true,.. The OL means nothing. Nor a defense.

    To win, all you need is a QB an WRs, so the Browns should use ALL their draft picks on QBs and WRs.

    The ones who don't make it through camp as the starters are turned into OL, since - of course - they don't matter at all - and as others have pointed out, all you really need to do is coach them up properly.

    Others can be turned into DE, DT, LB and CB.

    Because they don't matter either

    And if QB sucks, I have ten more who I can tap to take over.

    Think of the flea flicker plays that could be run, too.

    Plus think of the merchandise they can sell.

    The Browns can win it all by drafting all the QBs and WRs forever, because no one else will have any.

    I mean, WHO can't SEE that?

  • Just saying he seems like a punk before during and after the game.

    Dance and taunt your opponents all season until you get your butt smacked and then pout like a little bitch.

    WSS

  • Lol the Broncos are the ones being punks, talking shit and rubbing it in well after the game is over. Sore winners. The panthers have fun playing the game I don't see the problem with it.

  • Lol the Broncos are the ones being punks, talking shit and rubbing it in well after the game is over. Sore winners. The panthers have fun playing the game I don't see the problem with it.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Lol the Broncos are the ones being punks, talking shit and rubbing it in well after the game is over. Sore winners. The panthers have fun playing the game I don't see the problem with it.

    Didn't look like that much fun after the game, did it? 😉

    WSS

  • Just saying he seems like a punk before during and after the game.

    Dance and taunt your opponents all season until you get your butt smacked and then pout like a little bitch.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Just saying he seems like a punk before during and after the game.

    Dance and taunt your opponents all season until you get your butt smacked and then pout like a little bitch.

    WSS

    Isn't that typical of a person who has known nothing but privilege for a long time?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Just saying he seems like a punk before during and after the game.

    Dance and taunt your opponents all season until you get your butt smacked and then pout like a little bitch.

    WSS

    Isn't that typical of a person who has known nothing but privilege for a long time?

    @the-gipper said:

    Isn't that typical of a person who has known nothing but privilege for a long time?

    Uh, no?

    I would imagine every top notch athlete, I mean the cream of the crop, have been guided through their careers from elementary school through the pros with a golden umbrella.

    As soon as their coaches realize they are destined for greatness.

    And among that group I would say there's a wide variety of behavior.

    WSS

  • @browns52 said:

    got to give mvp to elway even though he wasn't on the field.. fucking makes me puke to say that but its the truth...didn't he bring in phillips and get those other guys on free agency...again, it makes me puke, but i wish we had someone with football knowledge like elway...I'll bet he didn't use analytics to make those moves....

    I would guess that Tom Heckert played a bigger role in bringing in the FA's than Elway.

    Hell it was Heckert that drafted TJ Ward when he was with the Browns.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I would guess that Tom Heckert played a bigger role in bringing in the FA's than Elway.

    Hell it was Heckert that drafted TJ Ward when he was with the Browns.

    Forgot about Heckert.

    Sigh.

    He was here when we signed Jordon Norwood as a udfa from Penn State as well.

    I remember all the guy did was catch the football.

    So he went to Denver, picked off Ward, refound Norwood and won a SB.

    I always liked him in Cleveland, the only guy so far that didn't make a joke out fo the draft when he was here.

    Zombo

  • @canton-dawg said:

    I would guess that Tom Heckert played a bigger role in bringing in the FA's than Elway.

    Hell it was Heckert that drafted TJ Ward when he was with the Browns.

    Forgot about Heckert.

    Sigh.

    He was here when we signed Jordon Norwood as a udfa from Penn State as well.

    I remember all the guy did was catch the football.

    So he went to Denver, picked off Ward, refound Norwood and won a SB.

    I always liked him in Cleveland, the only guy so far that didn't make a joke out fo the draft when he was here.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Forgot about Heckert.

    Sigh.

    He was here when we signed Jordon Norwood as a udfa from Penn State as well.

    I remember all the guy did was catch the football.

    So he went to Denver, picked off Ward, refound Norwood and won a SB.

    I always liked him in Cleveland, the only guy so far that didn't make a joke out fo the draft when he was here.

    Zombo

    Heckert was the best personnel man we had since '99.

    Sure he had a few bad picks (TR and Weeds come to mind) but I would rather have him than the likes of Farmer, Mangini, or Lombardi.

  • @pumpkin-eater said:

    Lol the Broncos are the ones being punks, talking shit and rubbing it in well after the game is over. Sore winners. The panthers have fun playing the game I don't see the problem with it.

    Didn't look like that much fun after the game, did it? 😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Didn't look like that much fun after the game, did it? 😉

    WSS

    So what's worse, celebrating touchdowns or intentionally facemasking an opponent to try to hurt an opponent? The Broncos are the punks, they probably intentionally hurt Stewart too.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Didn't look like that much fun after the game, did it? 😉

    WSS

    So what's worse, celebrating touchdowns or intentionally facemasking an opponent to try to hurt an opponent? The Broncos are the punks, they probably intentionally hurt Stewart too.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    So what's worse, celebrating touchdowns or intentionally facemasking an opponent to try to hurt an opponent?

    Great point... add that Talib was dumb enough to brag about it after the fact.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Didn't look like that much fun after the game, did it? 😉

    WSS

    So what's worse, celebrating touchdowns or intentionally facemasking an opponent to try to hurt an opponent? The Broncos are the punks, they probably intentionally hurt Stewart too.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    So what's worse, celebrating touchdowns or intentionally facemasking an opponent to try to hurt an opponent? The Broncos are the punks, they probably intentionally hurt Stewart too.

    One has nothing to do with the other. If you weren't Newton's little fanboy you'd be grumbling about that kind of behavior.

    "act like you've been there before!"

    Of course the dirty face mask didn't lose the game for the Panthers. Cam Newtons surprisingly poor play did.

    WSS

  • I have no idea why cam didn't go for that fumble. When he stopped I was dumbfounded.

  • CAM showed his true colors a baby and quiter i sit lol at all the excuses people make for him LOL ! Bring on the next OVER HYPED QB!

  • CAM is a pussy.. lets move on.

  • @pumpkin-eater said:

    So what's worse, celebrating touchdowns or intentionally facemasking an opponent to try to hurt an opponent? The Broncos are the punks, they probably intentionally hurt Stewart too.

    One has nothing to do with the other. If you weren't Newton's little fanboy you'd be grumbling about that kind of behavior.

    "act like you've been there before!"

    Of course the dirty face mask didn't lose the game for the Panthers. Cam Newtons surprisingly poor play did.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    One has nothing to do with the other. If you weren't Newton's little fanboy you'd be grumbling about that kind of behavior.

    "act like you've been there before!"

    Of course the dirty face mask didn't lose the game for the Panthers. Cam Newtons surprisingly poor play did.

    WSS

    lol. This coming from a Johnny Manziel fanboy, the same Johnny who busted some gals eardrum and still has your support, let alone the money signs, shows up to practice drunk and exhibits a pure shit show on the field. But oh no let's not celebrate a touchdown or winning a game. Let's facemask people, celebrate shitty play, beat up our women, play drunk and like shit, WSS says it's ok.
  • CAM is a pussy.. lets move on.

    @nickers said:

    lets move on.

    Congrats & good luck rehabbing a knee to former buckeye TE Jeff Heuerman. Heuerman a National Champion in 2014 with OSU. 2015 Jeff was drafted by Denver in 3rd round (92). Heuerman blew his knee out in mini camp before any roster cuts. Assuming he was placed on IR, Does Heurman get a fat SB Ring too??

  • @westside-steve said:

    One has nothing to do with the other. If you weren't Newton's little fanboy you'd be grumbling about that kind of behavior.

    "act like you've been there before!"

    Of course the dirty face mask didn't lose the game for the Panthers. Cam Newtons surprisingly poor play did.

    WSS

    lol. This coming from a Johnny Manziel fanboy, the same Johnny who busted some gals eardrum and still has your support, let alone the money signs, shows up to practice drunk and exhibits a pure shit show on the field. But oh no let's not celebrate a touchdown or winning a game. Let's facemask people, celebrate shitty play, beat up our women, play drunk and like shit, WSS says it's ok.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    lol. This coming from a Johnny Manziel fanboy, the same Johnny who busted some gals eardrum and still has your support, let alone the money signs, shows up to practice drunk and exhibits a pure shit show on the field. But oh no let's not celebrate a touchdown or winning a game. Let's facemask people, celebrate shitty play, beat up our women, play drunk and like shit, WSS says it's ok.

    And again one has nothing to do with the other. Also hilarious coming from anyone who wet his little panties about the money sign. Hey the Carolina Panthers have fun dancing and laughing and taunting their opponents in their shitty little cake division not just touchdowns but after sacks receptions and big hits.

    Now the Punk loses the game for his teammates probably for not taking a good defense seriously and you are on his dick.

    The recent Colleen Crowley incidents are the only ones that even approach being legal problems and the only ones I would greatly be concerned about. If and when he is convicted and punished my opinion on those two, well one, will probably change.

    WSS

  • I have no idea why cam didn't go for that fumble. When he stopped I was dumbfounded.

    @bbedward said:

    I have no idea why cam didn't go for that fumble. When he stopped I was dumbfounded.

    Me too bb. I see the the Broncos's winning lottery ticket laying on the ground in front of the only guy that might change the outcome and he just lets it go. And even in the light of the next day interview he still doesn't understand he gave up the game there. That to me is just as dumbfounding as not going for it. How does he not understand the significance both at the time and in the light of the next day? Unfuckingbelievable! ❗

  • Celebrating amongst themselves is taunting? You say it's a different issue but it's not. Just because you say something doesn't make it true. They all have to do with sportsmanship and character. You pissed off that they've been to 2 superbowls in their 20 year existence while probably winning more playoff games in that span than the Browns have in their history? It sucks, but I started following the panthers when they came into the league because the Browns were gone. Now I can't root against them. They obviously have better owners than the Browns have had.

    That being said I can't believe Newton didn't jump on that fumble. His excuse is bunk too. Hopefully he realizes his mistake and will be different in the future.

  • Celebrating amongst themselves is taunting? You say it's a different issue but it's not. Just because you say something doesn't make it true. They all have to do with sportsmanship and character. You pissed off that they've been to 2 superbowls in their 20 year existence while probably winning more playoff games in that span than the Browns have in their history? It sucks, but I started following the panthers when they came into the league because the Browns were gone. Now I can't root against them. They obviously have better owners than the Browns have had.

    That being said I can't believe Newton didn't jump on that fumble. His excuse is bunk too. Hopefully he realizes his mistake and will be different in the future.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Celebrating amongst themselves is taunting? They all have to do with sportsmanship and character.

    It's pretty clearly a generational thing with the planned celebrations, preening and taunting......seems like the younger generations love it and the older generations dont.....(with exceptions, of course)

    And for those that love it, the perception is one of having fun and celebration.....and for those that dont love it, the perception is one of poor sportsmanship and/or a lack of class.....

    Personally, I think "trademark celebrations" or "planned celebrations" are pretty stupid and cringe whenever our guys do it..... but I certainly think players should be allowed to celebrate within reason and spontaneous celebrations are pretty normal and should be expected....