I hope this is not correct browns possible qb
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gumby73, on 15 Feb 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:
Farmers best parting gift maybe getting us McCown for a remaining salary of 4.375mill.(spotrac?) & a year to get a rookie QB or 2 under his NFL experience. Maybe no Luck guarantees but full of winner's & game managers. It's all about finding the right QB's that can anticipate the speed of the game is going to get faster..
We don't need a luck. If you need a luck to win, we might as well just hand the championship to Indy for the next 10 years, or let them fight with green bay. You need a good QB, sure, but nobody would say Flacco's the best of a generation, or Wilson, or 40-year-old Manning, but with great teams around them they can take you to a championship.
He meant Andrew Luck - why the L was capitalized.....
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gumby73, on 15 Feb 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:
Farmers best parting gift maybe getting us McCown for a remaining salary of 4.375mill.(spotrac?) & a year to get a rookie QB or 2 under his NFL experience. Maybe no Luck guarantees but full of winner's & game managers. It's all about finding the right QB's that can anticipate the speed of the game is going to get faster..
We don't need a luck. If you need a luck to win, we might as well just hand the championship to Indy for the next 10 years, or let them fight with green bay. You need a good QB, sure, but nobody would say Flacco's the best of a generation, or Wilson, or 40-year-old Manning, but with great teams around them they can take you to a championship.
He meant Andrew Luck - why the L was capitalized.....
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Millers knd of a dbag if he's like I just gotta be the higest paid nigga in the league. You're part of a pontentially historically good defense. Pump the brakes a bit so the team can sign other talent that HELPS you. Von Miller would not be as productive on the Browns defense as he is on that Broncos D, like not even close....hope you all realize that. Teams would roll away from him all game, trap inside of him and dare our ILB's to make a play. Ther'es plenty of ways to neutralize a player like Von if he's the only real baller on the defense, which he would be in Cleveland.
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Millers knd of a dbag if he's like I just gotta be the higest paid nigga in the league. You're part of a pontentially historically good defense. Pump the brakes a bit so the team can sign other talent that HELPS you. Von Miller would not be as productive on the Browns defense as he is on that Broncos D, like not even close....hope you all realize that. Teams would roll away from him all game, trap inside of him and dare our ILB's to make a play. Ther'es plenty of ways to neutralize a player like Von if he's the only real baller on the defense, which he would be in Cleveland.
Millers knd of a dbag if he's like I just gotta be the higest paid nigga in the league. You're part of a pontentially historically good defense. Pump the brakes a bit so the team can sign other talent that HELPS you.
Pretty much the way it goes with SB teams now a days....gotta get the big $ while the iron is hot.....thats why its important to only overpay the right guys and not the ones who are replaceable.....
Well... you have to start somewhere...
Yep...and it would be a damn good place to start....thats one FA signing I could get with easily.....
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I think the issue is that they have no cap space and want to sign Von Miller, who says he wants to be the highest paid in the league and, therefore, will eat up the little $ they do have.....so, by signing Miller, they can only offer Osweiler like 10-12m....and some other teams can offer more.....
Or...they keep Osweiler and lose Miller....(which we should be HAPPY to sign)
Even though Von is worlds better, if you believe in Osweiler and it's an either/or situation in Denver, you really have to go with Osweiler.I think the issue is that they have no cap space and want to sign Von Miller, who says he wants to be the highest paid in the league and, therefore, will eat up the little $ they do have.....so, by signing Miller, they can only offer Osweiler like 10-12m....and some other teams can offer more.....
Or...they keep Osweiler and lose Miller....(which we should be HAPPY to sign)
Edit: especially with Shane Ray sitting there. Regardless of which they sign, I'd be on board with signing the other.
Also, if Sheard's presence led to decent productivity from Kruger (which it did), Von's would make an even bigger impact.
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Brock is Denver's QB next year -- Elway and Manning are no longer close. If Peyton wants to play another year, he won't be doing it in Denver..
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This is silly season but this story is getting a ton of traction. I don't believe it would happen unless the Browns really throw a ton of money at Osweiler. He seems completely o.k. with staying in Denver.
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Millers knd of a dbag if he's like I just gotta be the higest paid nigga in the league. You're part of a pontentially historically good defense. Pump the brakes a bit so the team can sign other talent that HELPS you. Von Miller would not be as productive on the Browns defense as he is on that Broncos D, like not even close....hope you all realize that. Teams would roll away from him all game, trap inside of him and dare our ILB's to make a play. Ther'es plenty of ways to neutralize a player like Von if he's the only real baller on the defense, which he would be in Cleveland.
Von Miller would not be as productive on the Browns defense as he is on that Broncos D, like not even close....hope you all realize that. Teams would roll away from him all game, trap inside of him and dare our ILB's to make a play. Ther'es plenty of ways to neutralize a player like Von if he's the only real baller on the defense, which he would be in Cleveland.
With Kruger on the opposite side, what could go wrong?
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Ha!....if we signed a Von type of LB, Kruger wont be lined up opposite anybody.....it'll be Orchard.....
In fact, wouldnt surprise me if they cut him just to save $5 mill in cap space and help pay for the new guy....hard to have a $7-8 million LB on the bench or playing spot duty....Thats almost as silly as paying Bowe $6 million to catch 5 passes....
Last year, Kruger was paid $200,000 plus, per tackle....let THAT soak in....
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osweiller is better than anything we have on our roster right now at that position.
you want to fish for qbs why say no to him? i mean it hasn't stopped the browns from drafting/acquiring shit qbs since 99, thinking that guy would be 'the guy', why stop now?
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I thought Mayock summed it up well...
Would you rather pay top dollar or rookie scale for an unproven QB?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Millers knd of a dbag if he's like I just gotta be the higest paid nigga in the league. You're part of a pontentially historically good defense. Pump the brakes a bit so the team can sign other talent that HELPS you. Von Miller would not be as productive on the Browns defense as he is on that Broncos D, like not even close....hope you all realize that. Teams would roll away from him all game, trap inside of him and dare our ILB's to make a play. Ther'es plenty of ways to neutralize a player like Von if he's the only real baller on the defense, which he would be in Cleveland.
Millers knd of a dbag if he's like I just gotta be the higest paid nigga
Aren't you in another thread worried about race and skin color sensitivities? God bless ya! Bosa for President!
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Brock, post 2015 season, has proven to the NFL about what Cardale, post 2014, proved to OSU as far as the future is concerned.......Big $$ to Brock as a free agent & still unproven? No thanks. I'm with Tour...pay the rookie scale.
Mike
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Brock, post 2015 season, has proven to the NFL about what Cardale, post 2014, proved to OSU as far as the future is concerned.......Big $$ to Brock as a free agent & still unproven? No thanks. I'm with Tour...pay the rookie scale.
Mike
Brock, post 2015 season, has proven to the NFL about what Cardale, post 2014, proved to OSU as far as the future is concerned.......Big $$ to Brock as a free agent & still unproven? No thanks. I'm with Tour...pay the rookie scale.
Mike
Good post Mike! The day we played Denver - Peyton Manning kept us in the game with a pic 6 and an INT at Denver's 39 yard line. Cleveland doesn't actually provide its QBs with nearly the margin of error Denver's defense allots their QB. For example, when Denver's defense was swarming Brady the day Osweiler started - our's would have been surrendering points. Meaning Osweiler, not to be confused SB dominant caliber defense winning in spite of the QB or for him, wouldn't get that here right away. Big difference bordering on culture shock.
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I think the issue is that they have no cap space and want to sign Von Miller, who says he wants to be the highest paid in the league and, therefore, will eat up the little $ they do have.....so, by signing Miller, they can only offer Osweiler like 10-12m....and some other teams can offer more.....
Or...they keep Osweiler and lose Miller....(which we should be HAPPY to sign)
I think the issue is that they have no cap space and want to sign Von Miller, who says he wants to be the highest paid in the league and, therefore, will eat up the little $ they do have.....so, by signing Miller, they can only offer Osweiler like 10-12m....and some other teams can offer more.....
Or...they keep Osweiler and lose Miller....(which we should be HAPPY to sign)
He doesn't have to be highest paid. (except in his own mind) The Broncos will certainly franchise him if they can't work out a long term deal. Manning's salary coming off the books will help.
Brock, post 2015 season, has proven to the NFL about what Cardale, post 2014, proved to OSU as far as the future is concerned.......Big $$ to Brock as a free agent & still unproven? No thanks. I'm with Tour...pay the rookie scale.
Mike
I'd only pay Osweiler that kind of money if I saw the potential to be another Manning. I don't. Goff\ Wentz. Wentz\ Goff. Guaranteed getting one of them. Last year Mariotta got $24 million, 4 years, all guaranteed.
And to the OP, I thought you were bringing up the Kaepernic rumor- just no to that overpaid guy too.
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