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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @the-gipper said:

    I suspect, even at my age, that mine gets more of a workout than yours.

    Single "handedly" keeping the lotion business afloat.

    Congrats, Gip.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Single "handedly" keeping the lotion business afloat.

    Congrats, Gip.

    Yes, my lotion lands in your esophagus.

  • Mike HM Mike H

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    I keep seeing BPA being tossed out there.

    To me, that's impossible to determine when dealing with such vastly different roles.

    I prefer BPI: Biggest Positive Impact

    Maybe an offensive lineman is the top player in the draft. But would an O-Line guy have a bigger positive impact on the Browns than a good QB or a star edge rusher?

    Bravo, great post.

    DLs who can win and disrupt and edge rushers who can collapse the pocket are what are needed most.

    @mike-h said:

    Bravo, great post.

    DLs who can win and disrupt and edge rushers who can collapse the pocket are what are needed most.

    Gee, lets see....Didn't the Denver Broncos just win a Super Bowl doing that? (Oh...but that is no plan for the Browns to follow) Doh!

    Mike HM hoortaH 2 Replies
  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Whats intriguing is how loaded this draft is with DE's and DT's.....absofuckinlutely loaded.....what 10-12 are projected as round 1 talents?....and you know they arent all going in the first.....which ones drop is the real question....but you'd think there will still be some good talent in rnds 2 and 3...

    And compounding the dilemma is that DE is one of the strongest areas in FA too....so, it will be interesting to see if the Browns go after a top FA, instead of drafting DE early...

    How about a Mario Williams(soon to be cut)...Olivier Vernon....Robert Ayers....J. Pierre-Paul.....Mohammed Wilkerson....??

    All double digit sack guys about to hit the market....

    @mudfly said:

    Whats intriguing is how loaded this draft is with DE's and DT's.....absofuckinlutely loaded.....what 10-12 are projected as round 1 talents?....and you know they arent all going in the first.....which ones drop is the real question....but you'd think there will still be some good talent in rnds 2 and 3...

    And compounding the dilemma is that DE is one of the strongest areas in FA too....so, it will be interesting to see if the Browns go after a top FA, instead of drafting DE early...

    How about a Mario Williams(soon to be cut)...Olivier Vernon....Robert Ayers....J. Pierre-Paul.....Mohammed Wilkerson....??

    All double digit sack guys about to hit the market....

    This is an important aspect of this discussion.....because Bosa will be gone by the time we pick #2....so yes, we have to look at alternates for what I want: a defensive killer.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @hoorta said:

    Gip, if you don't think 3-4, 4-3 DE it don't matter- TC is right, you don't know what you're talking about.

    Minimally......you really think that a player that good can only operate in one system or the other and that he would suck in the wrong one.

    I don't buy it....not at all.

    I mean, its not like are asking him to play Quarterback. You are asking a defensive end to play defensive end.

    If you have marginal talent....maybe it makes some difference.

    I mean....WTF is with Chicken Little Shit.

    "Oh My God...play that guy in the 4-3 where he will play like Superman.....but God....if he is put in the 3-4 he will play like Granny Clampett! "

    Jesus to fuck....what namby pamby ass shit is this?

    Maybe it is not what he is used to....but at 6'6" and full of muscles like the man from Brussels...I think he can adapt.

    @the-gipper said:

    Minimally......you really think that a player that good can only operate in one system or the other and that he would suck in the wrong one.

    I don't buy it....not at all.

    Maybe it is not what he is used to....but at 6'6" and full of muscles like the man from Brussels...I think he can adapt.

    I do have to agree with this, as it applies to Bosa....while there are a lot of guys better suited for one system or another....for a 3-4 it's mostly tweeners who are too small for DE and make good OLB's and leaner tweener DT's who make good DE's....

    But there are plenty of talents who transcend systems and would be great anywhere.....and Bosa is likely one of them( Myles Jack too, btw).... 😉

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mike-h said:

    Bravo, great post.

    DLs who can win and disrupt and edge rushers who can collapse the pocket are what are needed most.

    Gee, lets see....Didn't the Denver Broncos just win a Super Bowl doing that? (Oh...but that is no plan for the Browns to follow) Doh!

    @the-gipper said:

    Gee, lets see....Didn't the Denver Broncos just win a Super Bowl doing that? (Oh...but that is no plan for the Browns to follow) Doh!

    That's the most important tenant of playing NFL defense. And has been long before the Broncos won the Super Bowl because of it.

  • Mike HM Mike H

    @the-gipper said:

    Gee, lets see....Didn't the Denver Broncos just win a Super Bowl doing that? (Oh...but that is no plan for the Browns to follow) Doh!

    That's the most important tenant of playing NFL defense. And has been long before the Broncos won the Super Bowl because of it.

    @mike-h said:

    That's the most important tenant of playing NFL defense. And has been long before the Broncos won the Super Bowl because of it.

    Well we're about to see if the analytics guys come to the same conclusion or if they try to get a pitcher.................err QB. 😛

    MudflyM Mike HM 2 Replies
  • T TexasAg1969

    @mike-h said:

    That's the most important tenant of playing NFL defense. And has been long before the Broncos won the Super Bowl because of it.

    Well we're about to see if the analytics guys come to the same conclusion or if they try to get a pitcher.................err QB. 😛

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well we're about to see if the analytics guys come to the same conclusion or if they try to get a pitcher.................err QB. 😛

    Well, he had better be a starter and not a reliever, thats all I got to say.....

  • T TexasAg1969

    @mike-h said:

    That's the most important tenant of playing NFL defense. And has been long before the Broncos won the Super Bowl because of it.

    Well we're about to see if the analytics guys come to the same conclusion or if they try to get a pitcher.................err QB. 😛

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well we're about to see if the analytics guys come to the same conclusion or if they try to get a pitcher.................err QB. 😛

    Hopefully the analytics guys do the smart thing and take the best player: Jalen Ramsey 🙂

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mike-h said:

    Bravo, great post.

    DLs who can win and disrupt and edge rushers who can collapse the pocket are what are needed most.

    Gee, lets see....Didn't the Denver Broncos just win a Super Bowl doing that? (Oh...but that is no plan for the Browns to follow) Doh!

    @the-gipper said:

    Gee, lets see....Didn't the Denver Broncos just win a Super Bowl doing that? (Oh...but that is no plan for the Browns to follow) Doh!

    You miss the memo Gip? Von Miller doesn't play DE.

  • hoorta- Gip was responding to Mike who said DL's "and edge rushers who could collapse the pocket", so that would include Miller.

  • T TexasAg1969

    hoorta- Gip was responding to Mike who said DL's "and edge rushers who could collapse the pocket", so that would include Miller.

    @texasag1969 said:

    hoorta- Gip was responding to Mike who said DL's "and edge rushers who could collapse the pocket", so that would include Miller.

    OK, must have missed that.

  • #msu QB Connor Cook said he'll meet with #Browns tonight. Looking forward meeting hue Jackson. Would love to play for #Browns

  • darren15D darren15

    #msu QB Connor Cook said he'll meet with #Browns tonight. Looking forward meeting hue Jackson. Would love to play for #Browns

    @darren15 said:

    #msu QB Connor Cook said he'll meet with #Browns tonight. Looking forward meeting hue Jackson. Would love to play for #Browns"

    He took three Pamprin to prepare for the interview.

  • http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/

    Connor Cook has a private workout with the Browns.

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/

    Connor Cook has a private workout with the Browns.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/

    Connor Cook has a private workout with the Browns.

    Only if they're planning on taking him @ #32. I wouldn't read much into this- the Browns will workout every viable QB.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @logicisforsquares said:

    http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/

    Connor Cook has a private workout with the Browns.

    Only if they're planning on taking him @ #32. I wouldn't read much into this- the Browns will workout every viable QB.

    @hoorta said:

    Only if they're planning on taking him @ #32.

    This is my fear.

  • I don't see Cook being available to us in the second round. I know that just about all of the mock drafts say he will, but something tells me the Broncos will snap him up with the last pick of the first. To me, he makes the most sense for them. Believe it or not, I think Wentz might actually slide. I could see the Rams taking Cook over Wentz because they need a guy right NOW. In many drafts, a QB can slide pretty far down if he makes it by the initial "QB hungry teams". The real question to me is, if Wentz begins to slide, to we make a move to get back into the first round? I would severely doubt it, but we'll see.

    We've all heard the comments about Cook, and how it appears he wasn't a leader and all that, but how much do we really know about the guy? Is this all conjecture and bullshit? I would say where there's smoke there is fire, but has Cook been in trouble off the field? Does he have any of those red flags? I honestly don't know much about the guy, but what I've seen regarding his ability to play football, he seems like a player.

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  • I think Wentz is better than Cook right now, FWIW.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    I don't see Cook being available to us in the second round. I know that just about all of the mock drafts say he will, but something tells me the Broncos will snap him up with the last pick of the first. To me, he makes the most sense for them. Believe it or not, I think Wentz might actually slide. I could see the Rams taking Cook over Wentz because they need a guy right NOW. In many drafts, a QB can slide pretty far down if he makes it by the initial "QB hungry teams". The real question to me is, if Wentz begins to slide, to we make a move to get back into the first round? I would severely doubt it, but we'll see.

    We've all heard the comments about Cook, and how it appears he wasn't a leader and all that, but how much do we really know about the guy? Is this all conjecture and bullshit? I would say where there's smoke there is fire, but has Cook been in trouble off the field? Does he have any of those red flags? I honestly don't know much about the guy, but what I've seen regarding his ability to play football, he seems like a player.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I don't see Cook being available to us in the second round. I know that just about all of the mock drafts say he will, but something tells me the Broncos will snap him up with the last pick of the first. To me, he makes the most sense for them. Believe it or not, I think Wentz might actually slide. I could see the Rams taking Cook over Wentz because they need a guy right NOW. In many drafts, a QB can slide pretty far down if he makes it by the initial "QB hungry teams". The real question to me is, if Wentz begins to slide, to we make a move to get back into the first round? I would severely doubt it, but we'll see.

    We've all heard the comments about Cook, and how it appears he wasn't a leader and all that, but how much do we really know about the guy? Is this all conjecture and bullshit? I would say where there's smoke there is fire, but has Cook been in trouble off the field? Does he have any of those red flags? I honestly don't know much about the guy, but what I've seen regarding his ability to play football, he seems like a player.

    OK, I'm going to chime in on this one, I've worked with Connor Cook's mom for over 25 years, she's been involved in Connor's football career his whole life, and I have followed him at the Green and White..... This kid is squeaky clean, With what I know, I would have no problem with him being the face of any franchise. If you watched him play as I have over his 3 years as a starter, there's no way he's not a leader of men. Alot of what you hear is all about money and to set the order of the draft, This kid is a winner both on an off the field... Goff and Wentz are grabbing all the head lines but Connor is as good as both of them, The team that draft's Connor is going to get the sleeper QB in this draft....

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