Camp Cook
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Gip, if you don't think 3-4, 4-3 DE it don't matter- TC is right, you don't know what you're talking about.
Minimally......you really think that a player that good can only operate in one system or the other and that he would suck in the wrong one.
I don't buy it....not at all.
I mean, its not like are asking him to play Quarterback. You are asking a defensive end to play defensive end.
If you have marginal talent....maybe it makes some difference.
I mean....WTF is with Chicken Little Shit.
"Oh My God...play that guy in the 4-3 where he will play like Superman.....but God....if he is put in the 3-4 he will play like Granny Clampett! "
Jesus to fuck....what namby pamby ass shit is this?
Maybe it is not what he is used to....but at 6'6" and full of muscles like the man from Brussels...I think he can adapt.
Minimally......you really think that a player that good can only operate in one system or the other and that he would suck in the wrong one.
I don't buy it....not at all.
Maybe it is not what he is used to....but at 6'6" and full of muscles like the man from Brussels...I think he can adapt.
I do have to agree with this, as it applies to Bosa....while there are a lot of guys better suited for one system or another....for a 3-4 it's mostly tweeners who are too small for DE and make good OLB's and leaner tweener DT's who make good DE's....
But there are plenty of talents who transcend systems and would be great anywhere.....and Bosa is likely one of them( Myles Jack too, btw)....
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Gee, lets see....Didn't the Denver Broncos just win a Super Bowl doing that? (Oh...but that is no plan for the Browns to follow) Doh!
That's the most important tenant of playing NFL defense. And has been long before the Broncos won the Super Bowl because of it.
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Gee, lets see....Didn't the Denver Broncos just win a Super Bowl doing that? (Oh...but that is no plan for the Browns to follow) Doh!
That's the most important tenant of playing NFL defense. And has been long before the Broncos won the Super Bowl because of it.
That's the most important tenant of playing NFL defense. And has been long before the Broncos won the Super Bowl because of it.
Well we're about to see if the analytics guys come to the same conclusion or if they try to get a pitcher.................err QB.
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Well we're about to see if the analytics guys come to the same conclusion or if they try to get a pitcher.................err QB.
Well, he had better be a starter and not a reliever, thats all I got to say.....
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Well we're about to see if the analytics guys come to the same conclusion or if they try to get a pitcher.................err QB.
Hopefully the analytics guys do the smart thing and take the best player: Jalen Ramsey
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Gee, lets see....Didn't the Denver Broncos just win a Super Bowl doing that? (Oh...but that is no plan for the Browns to follow) Doh!
You miss the memo Gip? Von Miller doesn't play DE.
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hoorta- Gip was responding to Mike who said DL's "and edge rushers who could collapse the pocket", so that would include Miller.
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hoorta- Gip was responding to Mike who said DL's "and edge rushers who could collapse the pocket", so that would include Miller.
hoorta- Gip was responding to Mike who said DL's "and edge rushers who could collapse the pocket", so that would include Miller.
OK, must have missed that.
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http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/
Connor Cook has a private workout with the Browns.
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http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/
Connor Cook has a private workout with the Browns.
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/
Connor Cook has a private workout with the Browns.
Only if they're planning on taking him @ #32. I wouldn't read much into this- the Browns will workout every viable QB.
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http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/
Connor Cook has a private workout with the Browns.
Only if they're planning on taking him @ #32. I wouldn't read much into this- the Browns will workout every viable QB.
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I don't see Cook being available to us in the second round. I know that just about all of the mock drafts say he will, but something tells me the Broncos will snap him up with the last pick of the first. To me, he makes the most sense for them. Believe it or not, I think Wentz might actually slide. I could see the Rams taking Cook over Wentz because they need a guy right NOW. In many drafts, a QB can slide pretty far down if he makes it by the initial "QB hungry teams". The real question to me is, if Wentz begins to slide, to we make a move to get back into the first round? I would severely doubt it, but we'll see.
We've all heard the comments about Cook, and how it appears he wasn't a leader and all that, but how much do we really know about the guy? Is this all conjecture and bullshit? I would say where there's smoke there is fire, but has Cook been in trouble off the field? Does he have any of those red flags? I honestly don't know much about the guy, but what I've seen regarding his ability to play football, he seems like a player.
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I think Wentz is better than Cook right now, FWIW.
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I don't see Cook being available to us in the second round. I know that just about all of the mock drafts say he will, but something tells me the Broncos will snap him up with the last pick of the first. To me, he makes the most sense for them. Believe it or not, I think Wentz might actually slide. I could see the Rams taking Cook over Wentz because they need a guy right NOW. In many drafts, a QB can slide pretty far down if he makes it by the initial "QB hungry teams". The real question to me is, if Wentz begins to slide, to we make a move to get back into the first round? I would severely doubt it, but we'll see.
We've all heard the comments about Cook, and how it appears he wasn't a leader and all that, but how much do we really know about the guy? Is this all conjecture and bullshit? I would say where there's smoke there is fire, but has Cook been in trouble off the field? Does he have any of those red flags? I honestly don't know much about the guy, but what I've seen regarding his ability to play football, he seems like a player.
I don't see Cook being available to us in the second round. I know that just about all of the mock drafts say he will, but something tells me the Broncos will snap him up with the last pick of the first. To me, he makes the most sense for them. Believe it or not, I think Wentz might actually slide. I could see the Rams taking Cook over Wentz because they need a guy right NOW. In many drafts, a QB can slide pretty far down if he makes it by the initial "QB hungry teams". The real question to me is, if Wentz begins to slide, to we make a move to get back into the first round? I would severely doubt it, but we'll see.
We've all heard the comments about Cook, and how it appears he wasn't a leader and all that, but how much do we really know about the guy? Is this all conjecture and bullshit? I would say where there's smoke there is fire, but has Cook been in trouble off the field? Does he have any of those red flags? I honestly don't know much about the guy, but what I've seen regarding his ability to play football, he seems like a player.
OK, I'm going to chime in on this one, I've worked with Connor Cook's mom for over 25 years, she's been involved in Connor's football career his whole life, and I have followed him at the Green and White..... This kid is squeaky clean, With what I know, I would have no problem with him being the face of any franchise. If you watched him play as I have over his 3 years as a starter, there's no way he's not a leader of men. Alot of what you hear is all about money and to set the order of the draft, This kid is a winner both on an off the field... Goff and Wentz are grabbing all the head lines but Connor is as good as both of them, The team that draft's Connor is going to get the sleeper QB in this draft....
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no, Conner Cook is second tier vs Goff and Wentz.
He doesn't have off the field red flags, he just isn't an elite qb prospect.
Here's a nice article about the good and not so good about Conner Cook
on the field.
I think he is more a mid 2nd round pick at best, just my opinion.
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I took him in about round 3 for the cowboys and I could see that playing out in real life.
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Jon Gruden just said on ESPN that Michigan State's Connor Cook "is gonna be the best QB in this draft."
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