Camp Cardale
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can we just draft some kid at #2 who has a fairly reasonable probability of producing on the field by season opener? I know some of you guys don't like him, but Shelton was contributing from day 1. Yeah it was his rookie year and he would get caught upfield or get his pads turned now and then, he'll learn. But he was a very serviceable DT from day one...and frankly by the end of the season I saw him blowing up some veteran offensive lineman. That was a decent pick whether he's on the roster in a few years or not. You never know how things are gonna go but it looked like he was absolutely improving as the year went along. I see no reason why he won't continue that. Get some running mates on that line with him. Get either Bosa or go OLB with Jack.
can we just draft some kid at #2 who has a fairly reasonable probability of producing on the field by season opener? I know some of you guys don't like him, but Shelton was contributing from day 1. Yeah it was his rookie year and he would get caught upfield or get his pads turned now and then, he'll learn. But he was a very serviceable DT from day one...and frankly by the end of the season I saw him blowing up some veteran offensive lineman. That was a decent pick whether he's on the roster in a few years or not. You never know how things are gonna go but it looked like he was absolutely improving as the year went along. I see no reason why he won't continue that. Get some running mates on that line with him. Get either Bosa or go OLB with Jack.
Yeah, god know we'd all hate it if we end up with someone like Blake Bortles that takes a couple of months extra before taking over and developing in to a franchise QB, I mean seriously, heaven forbid!
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Im a huge OSU fan, but I dont see it above the ears with Cardale. He also lacks accuracy in the short to intermediate range. He looked good when he was throwing balls deep and had the best deep ball reciever OSU has ever had running under em. Zeke and the Oline took tons of pressure off Cardale during that championship run, and when Cardale was asked to take over more of the offense he crumbled. Cardale has too much Jamarcus Russell in him for my liking. If you can snag him in the 3rd or 4th he may be worth the risk on physical traits.
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Im a huge OSU fan, but I dont see it above the ears with Cardale. He also lacks accuracy in the short to intermediate range. He looked good when he was throwing balls deep and had the best deep ball reciever OSU has ever had running under em. Zeke and the Oline took tons of pressure off Cardale during that championship run, and when Cardale was asked to take over more of the offense he crumbled. Cardale has too much Jamarcus Russell in him for my liking. If you can snag him in the 3rd or 4th he may be worth the risk on physical traits.
Im a huge OSU fan, but I dont see it above the ears with Cardale. He also lacks accuracy in the short to intermediate range. He looked good when he was throwing balls deep and had the best deep ball reciever OSU has ever had running under em. Zeke and the Oline took tons of pressure off Cardale during that championship run, and when Cardale was asked to take over more of the offense he crumbled. Cardale has too much Jamarcus Russell in him for my liking. If you can snag him in the 3rd or 4th he may be worth the risk on physical traits.
Agreed. IMO, no sooner than 4th & that's only if we get our 1st choice MUCH earlier.
Physical traits can only take a player so far.
Mike
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Im a huge OSU fan, but I dont see it above the ears with Cardale. He also lacks accuracy in the short to intermediate range. He looked good when he was throwing balls deep and had the best deep ball reciever OSU has ever had running under em. Zeke and the Oline took tons of pressure off Cardale during that championship run, and when Cardale was asked to take over more of the offense he crumbled. Cardale has too much Jamarcus Russell in him for my liking. If you can snag him in the 3rd or 4th he may be worth the risk on physical traits.
Im a huge OSU fan, but I dont see it above the ears with Cardale. He also lacks accuracy in the short to intermediate range. He looked good when he was throwing balls deep and had the best deep ball reciever OSU has ever had running under em. Zeke and the Oline took tons of pressure off Cardale during that championship run, and when Cardale was asked to take over more of the offense he crumbled. Cardale has too much Jamarcus Russell in him for my liking. If you can snag him in the 3rd or 4th he may be worth the risk on physical traits.
Lol all of the #code "Strong Arm" "Cant read defenses" "Jamarcus" "He wasn't the reason why they won" "physical traits but no smarts"
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Actually he was benched b/c he's not the runner that Barrett is... Plus, Jones loses his OC (who catered the offense around his skills and they had success) to Houston and his top WRs..no surprise his 'numbers' 'dipped' but still never lost a game Emdig
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Wait.... didn't Barrett also lose his OC and top wr's ? not seein it...
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Im a huge OSU fan, but I dont see it above the ears with Cardale. He also lacks accuracy in the short to intermediate range. He looked good when he was throwing balls deep and had the best deep ball reciever OSU has ever had running under em. Zeke and the Oline took tons of pressure off Cardale during that championship run, and when Cardale was asked to take over more of the offense he crumbled. Cardale has too much Jamarcus Russell in him for my liking. If you can snag him in the 3rd or 4th he may be worth the risk on physical traits.
Lol all of the #code "Strong Arm" "Cant read defenses" "Jamarcus" "He wasn't the reason why they won" "physical traits but no smarts"
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Rakeem Cato as a 3rd rounder.....He says hello from Canada.
I don't see how anyone could have given Cato a 3rd Round grade after watching any Marshall games. I attended a good deal of the games Cato's senior year. He has a noodle arm and was listed at 6'0 (he isn't; I have been in an elevator with him) and 170 lbs.
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Cardale played fast and loose in 2015. He got on and stayed on a roll.
In 2016 he won the job and never played as well. Some may be system/OC/coaching, some may be due to a different WR corps (Smith for one made a lot of plays for his QB during that stretch drive).
But a good chunk, IMO, is that the cliché about back-ups having limited life as a fill-in has more than a grain of truth to it. One hears it all the time in the Pros, about how a team might be able to count upon its backup QB for a game or two, but beyond that it gets dicey."When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I think Kato already has NFL experience. Sign him up.
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I think Kato already has NFL experience. Sign him up.
I think Kato already has NFL experience. Sign him up.
I would put him at RB. He managed to juke the Juice and avoid getting stabbed haha.
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Cardale played fast and loose in 2015. He got on and stayed on a roll.
In 2016 he won the job and never played as well. Some may be system/OC/coaching, some may be due to a different WR corps (Smith for one made a lot of plays for his QB during that stretch drive).
But a good chunk, IMO, is that the cliché about back-ups having limited life as a fill-in has more than a grain of truth to it. One hears it all the time in the Pros, about how a team might be able to count upon its backup QB for a game or two, but beyond that it gets dicey.Cardale played fast and loose in 2015. He got on and stayed on a roll.
In 2016 he won the job and never played as well. Some may be system/OC/coaching, some may be due to a different WR corps (Smith for one made a lot of plays for his QB during that stretch drive).
Losing Tom Herman to Houston cost more to Zeke & Jones than what most people think. A Heisman in Zeke's case with MSU at home. Now C.Jones is a box of cracker jacks with a hidden surprise at the bottom of the box? Except in Em's eyes. WoW!
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
Em was implying that the responder is racist.
I must have missed that one. But I see it now. Either way, being big and strong with a cannon arm and having nothing between the ears is hardly exclusive to any particular race, as Brandon Weeden shows.
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
I must have missed that one. But I see it now. Either way, being big and strong with a cannon arm and having nothing between the ears is hardly exclusive to any particular race, as Brandon Weeden shows.
I must have missed that one. But I see it now. Either way, being big and strong with a cannon arm and having nothing between the ears is hardly exclusive to any particular race, as Brandon Weeden shows.
I think the mention of Jamarcus Russell is why race got involved. Otherwise, Weeden definitely is of that ilk. Big dummie with a rocket arm.
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
Ha! I didnt get that from it. Definitely not racist. Also didnt use any #code when talking about Winston or Mariota last year. The truth of the matter is that Cardale isnt the sharpest tool in the shed, and he has REAL accuracy issues. He wasnt missing easy passes by a couple inches. He was sailing balls 10 ft off in every which direction. But he does have a live arm, and his big build and athleticism make him intriguing. Too bad theres a lot of NFL bodied QBs with good arms and better accuracy in the draft this year. Theres a reason Em is the only person with Jones as the top QB. Now Dalyn Williams is a whole other issue lmmfao.Em was implying that the responder is racist.
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
Ahh.Em was implying that the responder is racist.
I guess that makes sense considering that our top three discussed first round hopeful quarterbacks are Goff, Wentz and Lynch who barely made it onto his top 12 list.
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I must have missed that one. But I see it now. Either way, being big and strong with a cannon arm and having nothing between the ears is hardly exclusive to any particular race, as Brandon Weeden shows.
I think the mention of Jamarcus Russell is why race got involved. Otherwise, Weeden definitely is of that ilk. Big dummie with a rocket arm.
I think the mention of Jamarcus Russell is why race got involved. Otherwise, Weeden definitely is of that ilk. Big dummie with a rocket arm.
Anderson, Mettenberger, Mallett, Schaub, there's no shortage of guys who hang around the league for 5 years while various teams kick the tyres, hoping that something fits.
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Ahh.Em was implying that the responder is racist.
I guess that makes sense considering that our top three discussed first round hopeful quarterbacks are Goff, Wentz and Lynch who barely made it onto his top 12 list.
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Ahh.
I guess that makes sense considering that our top three discussed first round hopeful quarterbacks are Goff, Wentz and Lynch who barely made it onto his top 12 list.
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He thought Cato was a 3rd round grade. The guy who is currently playing in Canada and went undrafted.
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Goff might be deemed more "ready to play" at this point than Cardale Jones, but even with mistakes, all Cardale did was just win, baby. A lot of people touted "pro style, ready to play" Brady Quinn, who couldn't unseat erratic journeyman Derrick Anderbilly.
If Bosa is there when they pick at #2 oal, Bosa should be the Browns pick. Much more of a difference maker than Goff. The Browns need a difference maker on the Defense.
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