Camp Cardale
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Cardale played fast and loose in 2015. He got on and stayed on a roll.
In 2016 he won the job and never played as well. Some may be system/OC/coaching, some may be due to a different WR corps (Smith for one made a lot of plays for his QB during that stretch drive).
But a good chunk, IMO, is that the clichรฉ about back-ups having limited life as a fill-in has more than a grain of truth to it. One hears it all the time in the Pros, about how a team might be able to count upon its backup QB for a game or two, but beyond that it gets dicey."When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I think Kato already has NFL experience. Sign him up.
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I think Kato already has NFL experience. Sign him up.
I think Kato already has NFL experience. Sign him up.
I would put him at RB. He managed to juke the Juice and avoid getting stabbed haha.
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Cardale played fast and loose in 2015. He got on and stayed on a roll.
In 2016 he won the job and never played as well. Some may be system/OC/coaching, some may be due to a different WR corps (Smith for one made a lot of plays for his QB during that stretch drive).
But a good chunk, IMO, is that the clichรฉ about back-ups having limited life as a fill-in has more than a grain of truth to it. One hears it all the time in the Pros, about how a team might be able to count upon its backup QB for a game or two, but beyond that it gets dicey.Cardale played fast and loose in 2015. He got on and stayed on a roll.
In 2016 he won the job and never played as well. Some may be system/OC/coaching, some may be due to a different WR corps (Smith for one made a lot of plays for his QB during that stretch drive).
Losing Tom Herman to Houston cost more to Zeke & Jones than what most people think. A Heisman in Zeke's case with MSU at home. Now C.Jones is a box of cracker jacks with a hidden surprise at the bottom of the box? Except in Em's eyes. WoW!
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
Em was implying that the responder is racist.
I must have missed that one. But I see it now. Either way, being big and strong with a cannon arm and having nothing between the ears is hardly exclusive to any particular race, as Brandon Weeden shows.
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
I must have missed that one. But I see it now. Either way, being big and strong with a cannon arm and having nothing between the ears is hardly exclusive to any particular race, as Brandon Weeden shows.
I must have missed that one. But I see it now. Either way, being big and strong with a cannon arm and having nothing between the ears is hardly exclusive to any particular race, as Brandon Weeden shows.
I think the mention of Jamarcus Russell is why race got involved. Otherwise, Weeden definitely is of that ilk. Big dummie with a rocket arm.
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
Ha! I didnt get that from it. Definitely not racist. Also didnt use any #code when talking about Winston or Mariota last year. The truth of the matter is that Cardale isnt the sharpest tool in the shed, and he has REAL accuracy issues. He wasnt missing easy passes by a couple inches. He was sailing balls 10 ft off in every which direction. But he does have a live arm, and his big build and athleticism make him intriguing. Too bad theres a lot of NFL bodied QBs with good arms and better accuracy in the draft this year. Theres a reason Em is the only person with Jones as the top QB. Now Dalyn Williams is a whole other issue lmmfao.Em was implying that the responder is racist.
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Em was implying that the responder is racist.
Ahh.Em was implying that the responder is racist.
I guess that makes sense considering that our top three discussed first round hopeful quarterbacks are Goff, Wentz and Lynch who barely made it onto his top 12 list.
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I must have missed that one. But I see it now. Either way, being big and strong with a cannon arm and having nothing between the ears is hardly exclusive to any particular race, as Brandon Weeden shows.
I think the mention of Jamarcus Russell is why race got involved. Otherwise, Weeden definitely is of that ilk. Big dummie with a rocket arm.
I think the mention of Jamarcus Russell is why race got involved. Otherwise, Weeden definitely is of that ilk. Big dummie with a rocket arm.
Anderson, Mettenberger, Mallett, Schaub, there's no shortage of guys who hang around the league for 5 years while various teams kick the tyres, hoping that something fits.
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Ahh.Em was implying that the responder is racist.
I guess that makes sense considering that our top three discussed first round hopeful quarterbacks are Goff, Wentz and Lynch who barely made it onto his top 12 list.
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I guess that makes sense considering that our top three discussed first round hopeful quarterbacks are Goff, Wentz and Lynch who barely made it onto his top 12 list.
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He thought Cato was a 3rd round grade. The guy who is currently playing in Canada and went undrafted.
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Goff might be deemed more "ready to play" at this point than Cardale Jones, but even with mistakes, all Cardale did was just win, baby. A lot of people touted "pro style, ready to play" Brady Quinn, who couldn't unseat erratic journeyman Derrick Anderbilly.
If Bosa is there when they pick at #2 oal, Bosa should be the Browns pick. Much more of a difference maker than Goff. The Browns need a difference maker on the Defense.
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Goff might be deemed more "ready to play" at this point than Cardale Jones, but even with mistakes, all Cardale did was just win, baby. A lot of people touted "pro style, ready to play" Brady Quinn, who couldn't unseat erratic journeyman Derrick Anderbilly.
If Bosa is there when they pick at #2 oal, Bosa should be the Browns pick. Much more of a difference maker than Goff. The Browns need a difference maker on the Defense.
If Bosa is there when they pick at #2 oal, Bosa should be the Browns pick. Much more of a difference maker than Goff. The Browns need a difference maker on the Defense.
That is not the Browns way. First hire new staff. 2nd talk about the new QB to be taken high in the draft before any analysis is completed. 3rd spend two years in the cellar and still have no QB. 4th fire "old" staff. 5th talk about how wonderful the new changes are going to be under a new staff and that ticket prices will stay the same (for now).
All aboard please!
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Not having your QB is a problem that requires much more attention than if you are missing a pass rusher. Bosa is not J.J. Watt or Von Miller. It is rare that a pass rusher is more of a difference maker than a quality QB. Both positions are important but being able to move the ball and put points on the board is more important.
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Not having your QB is a problem that requires much more attention than if you are missing a pass rusher. Bosa is not J.J. Watt or Von Miller. It is rare that a pass rusher is more of a difference maker than a quality QB. Both positions are important but being able to move the ball and put points on the board is more important.
Not having your QB is a problem that requires much more attention than if you are missing a pass rusher. Bosa is not J.J. Watt or Von Miller. It is rare that a pass rusher is more of a difference maker than a quality QB. Both positions are important but being able to move the ball and put points on the board is more important.
Well our latest FO would be putting all their eggs in the QB basket. Hasn't worked yet and frankly I just don't see the QB in this draft. If they take one I certainly hope I'm 100% wrong.
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Not having your QB is a problem that requires much more attention than if you are missing a pass rusher. Bosa is not J.J. Watt or Von Miller. It is rare that a pass rusher is more of a difference maker than a quality QB. Both positions are important but being able to move the ball and put points on the board is more important.
Well our latest FO would be putting all their eggs in the QB basket. Hasn't worked yet and frankly I just don't see the QB in this draft. If they take one I certainly hope I'm 100% wrong.
Well our latest FO would be putting all their eggs in the QB basket. Hasn't worked yet and frankly I just don't see the QB in this draft. If they take one I certainly hope I'm 100% wrong.
I would trust that if anyone can evaluate and develop a QB it would be Jackson. If we pick someone up in free agency or skip picking a QB in the first, we will know how he feels about this class of QBs haha.
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Well our latest FO would be putting all their eggs in the QB basket. Hasn't worked yet and frankly I just don't see the QB in this draft. If they take one I certainly hope I'm 100% wrong.
I would trust that if anyone can evaluate and develop a QB it would be Jackson. If we pick someone up in free agency or skip picking a QB in the first, we will know how he feels about this class of QBs haha.
I would trust that if anyone can evaluate and develop a QB it would be Jackson. If we pick someone up in free agency or skip picking a QB in the first, we will know how he feels about this class of QBs haha.
Not necessarily... I think that for us to spend our #2 on a QB, there's going to have to be unanimous agreement that one QB is not only the best QB prospect, but that he is a high-probability prospect. Sashi is going to have to hear this from Hue, Scouting and Analytics... not just "I can live with QB X being the choice."
First time out they are all going to be in the same boat because it is the boat they wanted to be in.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I would trust that if anyone can evaluate and develop a QB it would be Jackson. If we pick someone up in free agency or skip picking a QB in the first, we will know how he feels about this class of QBs haha.
Not necessarily... I think that for us to spend our #2 on a QB, there's going to have to be unanimous agreement that one QB is not only the best QB prospect, but that he is a high-probability prospect. Sashi is going to have to hear this from Hue, Scouting and Analytics... not just "I can live with QB X being the choice."
First time out they are all going to be in the same boat because it is the boat they wanted to be in.
Not necessarily... I think that for us to spend our #2 on a QB, there's going to have to be unanimous agreement that one QB is not only the best QB prospect, but that he is a high-probability prospect. Sashi is going to have to hear this from Hue, Scouting and Analytics... not just "I can live with QB X being the choice."
First time out they are all going to be in the same boat because it is the boat they wanted to be in.
Eh we will just wait till the 3rd and get Goff....
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I'm still on the cardale bandwagon. I want him for the browns and I think he has all the tools in his box to succeed given time to mature. He's got the size, he's got the strength, he can run if he needs to and at his size he's probably not one hit from blowing out a knee. He's got some big game experience and that's not bad. Yeah his second season wasn't all sunshine and rainbows but he still never lost. Sometimes you've gotta take a chance on a guy who's got all the tools rather than take a chance on a guy who doesn't.
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