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  • gumby73G gumby73

    @texasag1969 said:

    "Well my my my"-room for Bosa now.

    Would you trade him to Dallas for DE Greg Hardy & still get Goff or Wentz @4?

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    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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    @gumby73 said:

    Would you trade him to Dallas for DE Greg Hardy & still get Goff or Wentz @4?

    So our new coach can go through this? http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/02/17/five-cowboys-free-agents-most-likely-to-depart-greg-hardy-became-constant-problem-for-garrett-upper-management

    No thanks. Too much like deja vu.

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      @gumby73 said:

      Would you trade him to Dallas for DE Greg Hardy & still get Goff or Wentz @4?

      So our new coach can go through this? http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/02/17/five-cowboys-free-agents-most-likely-to-depart-greg-hardy-became-constant-problem-for-garrett-upper-management

      No thanks. Too much like deja vu.

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      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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      @texasag1969 said:

      So our new coach can go through this? http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/02/17/five-cowboys-free-agents-most-likely-to-depart-greg-hardy-became-constant-problem-for-garrett-upper-management

      No thanks.

      I was just reading that same article haha. Some other team can deal with him.

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        Jim Dray was just a TE that filled a hole last year. I'm sure we pick up another in the draft.

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          @gumby73 said:

          Would you trade him to Dallas for DE Greg Hardy & still get Goff or Wentz @4?

          So our new coach can go through this? http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/02/17/five-cowboys-free-agents-most-likely-to-depart-greg-hardy-became-constant-problem-for-garrett-upper-management

          No thanks. Too much like deja vu.

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          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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          @texasag1969 said:

          So our new coach can go through this? http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/02/17/five-cowboys-free-agents-most-likely-to-depart-greg-hardy-became-constant-problem-for-garrett-upper-management

          No thanks. Too much like deja vu.

          Kinda what I thought when he was in Carolina also. Bosa no angel at OSU imo. Meyer can't be that honest. A proven 32 QB pressures with 6 sacks a pick & 35 tackles may add up to what Hue put up with with Burprick & Pacman Jones in his room before.This rebuild should be something to watch.

          Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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            IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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            Kinda surprised at Dray. I thought he was doing ok in his role. He seemed to have a down year. Eh, whatever.

            Starks schmarks

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              miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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              dray couldn't block if he was a lego.

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                You guys wouldn't trade Johnny for Greg Hardy? An elite talent? Y'all serious? Ridiculous.

                I'm surprised we cut Starks. Good player. Certainly thought we had worse on the DL. I know, I know, he got that one critical taunting penalty. God forbid. Like no good player has ever done that.

                Farmer still winning the battle versus Pettine on Bowe so far.

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  Bows similar to manziel right, guaranteed money for next season that means we can't cut until March?

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    Posted Yesterday, 11:09 PM

                    dray couldn't block if he was a lego. Mik

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                    glad I waited to make myself some coffee.... lol

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                      You guys wouldn't trade Johnny for Greg Hardy? An elite talent? Y'all serious? Ridiculous.

                      I'm surprised we cut Starks. Good player. Certainly thought we had worse on the DL. I know, I know, he got that one critical taunting penalty. God forbid. Like no good player has ever done that.

                      Farmer still winning the battle versus Pettine on Bowe so far.

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                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                      @wargograw said:

                      You guys wouldn't trade Johnny for Greg Hardy? An elite talent? Y'all serious? Ridiculous.

                      I'm surprised we cut Starks. Good player. Certainly thought we had worse on the DL. I know, I know, he got that one critical taunting penalty. God forbid. Like no good player has ever done that.

                      Farmer still winning the battle versus Pettine on Bowe so far.

                      Why trade one problem child for an extreme problem child? The Cowboys grew tired of his bullshit and they put up with Dez.

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                      • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                        @wargograw said:

                        You guys wouldn't trade Johnny for Greg Hardy? An elite talent? Y'all serious? Ridiculous.

                        I'm surprised we cut Starks. Good player. Certainly thought we had worse on the DL. I know, I know, he got that one critical taunting penalty. God forbid. Like no good player has ever done that.

                        Farmer still winning the battle versus Pettine on Bowe so far.

                        Why trade one problem child for an extreme problem child? The Cowboys grew tired of his bullshit and they put up with Dez.

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @logicisforsquares said:

                        Why trade one problem child for an extreme problem child? The Cowboys grew tired of his bullshit and they put up with Dez.

                        To be fair, one of those problem children has at least proven himself on the field.

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                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                          not a choir boy league anymore. heads & knees our optional. a few nasty boys would not hurt around this field. Garrett for all his misery with Hardy would love Hardy's move to a loser like Cleveland in draft. Ask our division rivals. I love this move & Hue wants to win. Lets see what it takes?

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                            I guess they watched film this week.

                            Dray was awful last year and Starks doesn't have much left in the tank.

                            Bowe is like manziel, guaranteed money, so we have to wait until March 8th to high five each other and toast Mike Pettine.

                            Zombo

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                              @logicisforsquares said:

                              Why trade one problem child for an extreme problem child? The Cowboys grew tired of his bullshit and they put up with Dez.

                              To be fair, one of those problem children has at least proven himself on the field.

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                              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                              @gftchris said:

                              To be fair, one of those problem children has at least proven himself on the field.

                              He has also proven himself to be a complete loon and a locker room cancer. Johnny was a distraction but it seems like Hardy actively tries to shit on locker room chemistry.

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                                @gftchris said:

                                To be fair, one of those problem children has at least proven himself on the field.

                                He has also proven himself to be a complete loon and a locker room cancer. Johnny was a distraction but it seems like Hardy actively tries to shit on locker room chemistry.

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                                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                He has also proven himself to be a complete loon and a locker room cancer. Johnny was a distraction but it seems like Hardy actively tries to shit on locker room chemistry.

                                and also a 1/2 step away from being a convicted felon. yeah we need attitude and some hard hitters but not when it comes to women, children and animals.

                                well jackson hasn't addressed the burfict issue so maybe he's just as bad? time will tell. everyone loves the jackson hire. put me down as 'not so much'.

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                                  @logicisforsquares said:

                                  He has also proven himself to be a complete loon and a locker room cancer. Johnny was a distraction but it seems like Hardy actively tries to shit on locker room chemistry.

                                  and also a 1/2 step away from being a convicted felon. yeah we need attitude and some hard hitters but not when it comes to women, children and animals.

                                  well jackson hasn't addressed the burfict issue so maybe he's just as bad? time will tell. everyone loves the jackson hire. put me down as 'not so much'.

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                                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                  @miktoxic said:

                                  and also a 1/2 step away from being a convicted felon. yeah we need attitude and some hard hitters but not when it comes to women, children and animals.

                                  well jackson hasn't addressed the burfict issue so maybe he's just as bad? time will tell. everyone loves the jackson hire. put me down as 'not so much'.

                                  Jackson was the OC. I would think it would be up to Lewis or the Bengals DC to talk about a linebacker.

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                                    and also a 1/2 step away from being a convicted felon. yeah we need attitude and some hard hitters but not when it comes to women, children and animals.

                                    well jackson hasn't addressed the burfict issue so maybe he's just as bad? time will tell. everyone loves the jackson hire. put me down as 'not so much'.

                                    Jackson was the OC. I would think it would be up to Lewis or the Bengals DC to talk about a linebacker.

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                                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                    @logicisforsquares said:

                                    Jackson was the OC. I would think it would be up to Lewis or the Bengals DC to talk about a linebacker.

                                    i know logic, but still part of the system. they all sink or swim together.....browns should know, still paying how many coaches/coordinators and FO personnel from how many years ago?

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                                      jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                                      Dray continuously got picked on for his blocking inadequacies last year, and he doesn't provide much as a receiving target, so it makes sense that he goes. Starks was probably serviceable, but his veteran status eats up unnecessary cap room, so see ya later. I'm not a blocking expert, but Dray's inability to routinely make blocks hurt our running game, and I heard multiple times last year "we need a dedicated blocking TE." Hopefully we can find that in free agency.

                                      Bowe is definitely next, and his situation pretty much sealed Farmer's fate. I mean, that kind of money for virtually no production is unheard of in the NFL. You might see it in the MLB, or even NBA, but nobody gets that kind of money in the NFL for next to nothing delivered on the field. The ONLY question regarding Bowe is, was his lack of playing time due to diminished skills, or was it because Pettine wanted to stick it to Ray? We heard all season about the tension between the two men, and there were several times during the season where Bowe would've been useful. Even if he just ran down the field and STOOD there.

                                      I'm also not sold on our RB's, and I don't think our new coach is either. I'm not saying we're going to cut Duke or Crow, not at all, but it wouldn't surprise me to see a proven free agent arrive in town. Hue has publicly stated how excited he is about our RB's, but I'm not so sure.

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                                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                          ok, what's with the red highlights though zombo?

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