Dear Hue, THANK YOU for RAY HORTON !
-
Kruger needs to drop his excuses find his passion & endurance to not quit on plays. He's slowing down & locking on blocks & quitting but no he should not be asked to cover. That moves me to Mingo. Cover Yes that & a surprise clean Blitzer from a LB but if he meets contact he done (weight issues) & hoping that he has help from a confused coverage scheme that leads Mingo's coverage assignment (RB/TE) wide open in middle of field. Late in season we seen some Shelton on 3rd down & damn O'Neil we saw what we drafted him for. A pocket with pressure in the middle of it. Kirksey possible starter? means 2 things, 3 LB's on field in 4-3 or not good on FA Robertson. Either way we need to upgrade on tackling techniques & angles. Pettine imo purposely embarrassed Gilbert (his own pick?) in a Buffalo scrimmage last season & the kid needs to grow up. Learn to open & turn his hips while continuing to run while not crossing up his legs & feet slowing him down. Horton has got to see this. Rant Over!!
BS. I know Krugers' neighbor. They were NOT using him right, plain and simple. He admits he is not a side to side player. The Browns brought him in and they said that to him directly, we expect you to put pressure on the QB...vertically. Que Ray Horton, who is going to do just that. Watch for a 12-14 sack season.
BS. I know Krugers' neighbor. They were NOT using him right, plain and simple. He admits he is not a side to side player. The Browns brought him in and they said that to him directly, we expect you to put pressure on the QB...vertically. Que Ray Horton, who is going to do just that. Watch for a 12-14 sack season.
Well...that would be like 10 more sacks than Horton got out of him last time(4.5).....he directly rushed the QB well over 300 times last season and had 2.5 sacks....so not a very good percentage....
So a real pass rushing, edge setting threat as our #2 overall?
Im there!!!....and, what the heck, how about one at #32 as well.....
-
BS. I know Krugers' neighbor. They were NOT using him right, plain and simple. He admits he is not a side to side player. The Browns brought him in and they said that to him directly, we expect you to put pressure on the QB...vertically. Que Ray Horton, who is going to do just that. Watch for a 12-14 sack season.
Well...that would be like 10 more sacks than Horton got out of him last time(4.5).....he directly rushed the QB well over 300 times last season and had 2.5 sacks....so not a very good percentage....
So a real pass rushing, edge setting threat as our #2 overall?
Im there!!!....and, what the heck, how about one at #32 as well.....
-
Ha!....I honestly am confused about this years draft and who I would tap first, etc....glad there's time to roll it all around....
BUT....what Im really hoping(and the Starks cut plays into it) is that we sign one of the pass rushing DE's availAble in FA.....Wilkerson, Vernon and Pierre-Paul top my list....
Just sign one of these guys and let's get on with it already.....
-
Can't go JPP personally... he might end up being the best bargain, but the gross out factor it too high.
Olivier? Maybe, but that Miami well has not been kind to us. And he and Wilkerson are going to end up being very expensive pieces to add at this stage of our rebuild.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Can't go JPP personally... he might end up being the best bargain, but the gross out factor it too high.
Olivier? Maybe, but that Miami well has not been kind to us. And he and Wilkerson are going to end up being very expensive pieces to add at this stage of our rebuild.
Can't go JPP personally... he might end up being the best bargain, but the gross out factor it too high.
Olivier? Maybe, but that Miami well has not been kind to us. And he and Wilkerson are going to end up being very expensive pieces to add at this stage of our rebuild.
Yeah....JPP is my third choice, but should be the most cost effective....but I cant finger out what you mean by gross out factor..
Vernon and Wilk are just what the doctor ordered....Vernon had more TFL's than our whole DL last year and would cost less than we are paying Kruger & Bowe.....comparably, worth every penny.....
-
".but I cant finger out what you mean by gross out factor.." LOL!
-
".but I cant finger out what you mean by gross out factor.." LOL!
".but I cant finger out what you mean by gross out factor.." LOL!
Yeah I thought that was pretty stellar work haha.
-
God we're really going to go into next season with virtually the same defensive personnel aren't we? mother fucker.
-
-
God we're really going to go into next season with virtually the same defensive personnel aren't we? mother fucker.
God we're really going to go into next season with virtually the same defensive personnel aren't we? mother fucker.
May I suggest the great gods of writers Doc Zeuss in "Horton hears a Who? & You
-
God we're really going to go into next season with virtually the same defensive personnel aren't we? mother fucker.
There are some promising EDGE guys in rounds 1 and 2. Maybe even Rd 3.God we're really going to go into next season with virtually the same defensive personnel aren't we? mother fucker.
-
There are some promising EDGE guys in rounds 1 and 2. Maybe even Rd 3.God we're really going to go into next season with virtually the same defensive personnel aren't we? mother fucker.
-
Ummm Kruger sucked the first time with Horton as DC...so whats he going to do now? suck more?
-
the browns wouldn't know how to find OR use good players if the blueprint were rolled out in front of them as big as a 747.
sheard? ward?
mic drop.
-
Too early? Oh, hell no ! Did my knee flexes last night, and have a bit of the "achesies" this morning,lol
But I graduate from phys therapy later this morning. What an amazing ride. The hard part now, is
forgetting that I used to have one of the worst knees my surgeon ever worked on...
Get this: Horton says..says he's going to ...RUSH Paul Kruger "YAY"
and....
he is going to play Danny Shelton a LOT MORE !!! Danny is now going to be a three down player !
Shelton obviously struggled with being taken out so much. I have talked to Canton Mike and Flugels,
and we're like "what the hell is up with that?"
Why the hell was Pettine being such an ignoramus. So many of us on this board saw it.
So... what the...???
Horton also will undo the bad relationship between Haden and egotistical dimwits Pettine and O'Neil....
This is great. Talks about Mingo, Kirksey and Gilbert.
Finally, some excellent coaches with people skills and smarts to bring out the best, by bringing
out their strengths, instead of putting them in bad situations - round pegs/square holes, in a
concrete "system" they brought with them elsewhere.
This is exciting stuff !
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/ray_horton_to_rush_paul_kruger.html#incart_m-rpt-1
Too early? Oh, hell no ! Did my knee flexes last night, and have a bit of the "achesies" this morning,lol
But I graduate from phys therapy later this morning. What an amazing ride. The hard part now, is
forgetting that I used to have one of the worst knees my surgeon ever worked on...
Get this: Horton says..says he's going to ...RUSH Paul Kruger "YAY"
and....
he is going to play Danny Shelton a LOT MORE !!! Danny is now going to be a three down player !
Shelton obviously struggled with being taken out so much. I have talked to Canton Mike and Flugels,
and we're like "what the hell is up with that?"
Why the hell was Pettine being such an ignoramus. So many of us on this board saw it.
So... what the...???
Horton also will undo the bad relationship between Haden and egotistical dimwits Pettine and O'Neil....
This is great. Talks about Mingo, Kirksey and Gilbert.
Finally, some excellent coaches with people skills and smarts to bring out the best, by bringing
out their strengths, instead of putting them in bad situations - round pegs/square holes, in a
concrete "system" they brought with them elsewhere.
This is exciting stuff !
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/ray_horton_to_rush_paul_kruger.html#incart_m-rpt-1
God bless ya Cal! That "achesies" comment dislodged the coffee in my mouth like a Heimlich maneuver.
I lost my Kruger pom poms and smiley faces. He doesn't need coaching - he needs a pyromaniac with a box of matches behind his fanny.
I saw some really good promise with Orchard. I'd also like to see more of Xavier Cooper. I'm not convinced we need to race either guy out of here.
I think experience and coaching will help Shelton get his pad height down and keep his head up. There's an old saying, one can't tackle what one can't see.
I'm hoping those in charge of our draft can identify bad tacklers and lousy instincts so we're not back in the same trap of thinking all we gotta do is teach it up.
The guy who stood out the most to me at the Senior Bowl was LBer Tyler Matakevich. This guy was all over the place making text book form tackles with shoulder pads rather than thinking ESPN kill shots so maybe he has a shelf life longer than Borland or Katzenmoyer? I loved Mayock's insights that he won't be the type to ace the Indy Fitness tests; but he can definitely play at the next level. When you get right down to it - how many NFL teams cared more about Ray Lewis' 40 time than his 1st step instinct? All that stupidity didn't didn't do us any favors seeing that guy pissed off he didn't get drafted until the 20s of round 1. I'd love to this type of talent fall to us. As a former Guard I can tell you the toughest ILBers to block were the ones with ideal first step instinct especially when I wasn't the play side Guard.
Here's the thing, how long does the average running play last - about 3 seconds or so? Getting there first often favors 1st step instinct over 40 speed or top end speed.
-
Too early? Oh, hell no ! Did my knee flexes last night, and have a bit of the "achesies" this morning,lol
But I graduate from phys therapy later this morning. What an amazing ride. The hard part now, is
forgetting that I used to have one of the worst knees my surgeon ever worked on...
Get this: Horton says..says he's going to ...RUSH Paul Kruger "YAY"
and....
he is going to play Danny Shelton a LOT MORE !!! Danny is now going to be a three down player !
Shelton obviously struggled with being taken out so much. I have talked to Canton Mike and Flugels,
and we're like "what the hell is up with that?"
Why the hell was Pettine being such an ignoramus. So many of us on this board saw it.
So... what the...???
Horton also will undo the bad relationship between Haden and egotistical dimwits Pettine and O'Neil....
This is great. Talks about Mingo, Kirksey and Gilbert.
Finally, some excellent coaches with people skills and smarts to bring out the best, by bringing
out their strengths, instead of putting them in bad situations - round pegs/square holes, in a
concrete "system" they brought with them elsewhere.
This is exciting stuff !
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/ray_horton_to_rush_paul_kruger.html#incart_m-rpt-1
-
It's weird, but true. An ingrained part of me still doesn't think I
should lead with my right knee, because it might dislocate and
rip up my knee,
...have had some serious injuries with that over the years... but my knee is perfect.
Seriously, I went out to the barn tonight, and got firewood in a double front
wheel wheelbarrow.
So, I go up the deck stairs one step at a time, with an armload of firewood...get po'd, go back down, and by the time
I got up the nerve to test out my new knee - if it were in the 'teens I'd had gotten hypothermia.
That isn't even funny. My new perfect knee worked perfectly. But bad knee habits apparently
hang around in my subconcious. dammit.
-
I know of what you speak...
My entire life I put a coat on right arm first then left. Back around '99 tore the labrum in my left shoulder... no more reaching back for my left sleeve anymore. Had to relearn the whole process... left first then right. Two years later I had the labrum repaired, but the new process was ingrained.
Flash forward to late 2015 when I damaged my right shoulder. Long story short... now I'm back to Plan A.
-
First Cal I'm so glad you are healing,prayer works!!! I feel ALL your pain and applaud your rehab efforts!!! In my life of oh 51 years and soon to be more. I've had. 19 broken bones( and that doesn't include fingers!) Hundreds of stitches, 3 back surgeries and a 3 level fusion at L4,L5,S1
One minor and one major heart attack with a Quintuple bypass. Most recently esophageal cancer brought on by the bypass! I'm recovering nicely now at home from Cleveland Clinic removing three inches of my esophagus. I'm cancer FREE!!!! I don't know about being bionic...but I'm surely getting closer and closer to being the 6 million dollar man! My sexy wifey keeps the smile on my
face. All you here have suffered more cause of our beloved Browns! Happy to be still lookin at the
green,green grass they play on! GO BROWNS
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login