Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Interesting. Either one will be shown to be lying or one will be taken off to jail.
Interesting. Either one will be shown to be lying or one will be taken off to jail.
well, at least one of them has established they do lie to cover their ass.....Im also thinking there must be something on that tape for the cops to take it into evidence....otherwise, they watch it, decide there is nothing there and simply dont press charges....
Same with the medical report.....cant believe her Lawyer would publicly announce she has ear drum damage, knowing full well that it will be checked out and scrutinized.....unless it was true.....Its not looking good for Johnny at all.....
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Source: Dallas police have video surveillance of Manziel incident
Dallas police said Saturday they have obtained video surveillance as they continue the investigation into the domestic assault complaint against Johnny Manziel.
Police did not specify the nature of the video, but the footage is from the Hotel ZaZa in Dallas, which is where Manziel's former girlfriend, Colleen Crowley, alleged the assault began, a source familiar with the investigation told ESPN.
The Dallas Police Department released a statement and also held a brief news conference Saturday afternoon to address the investigation.
"There has been no determination as to what charge, if any, will be filed against Mr. Manziel," Maj. Midge Boyle said.
Police said that they have interviewed Crowley and witnesses, but they have not spoken to Manziel.
The Dallas Morning News said police said the investigation could be concluded by the end of next week. WFAA in Dallas reported the case could go to a grand jury.
Boyle said the detective investigating the allegations "hasn't gotten all the facts yet.''
"She's still putting the case together,'' Boyle said. "It's been two weeks since this investigation started, and it is high-profile.
"As soon as we have something pertinent to put out, we will let you know."
Crowley's affidavit seeking a protection order, which was granted, stated that after an argument in Manziel's hotel room, he led her down a back stairway to the valet.
Crowley stated in the affidavit that she told the valet she was "scared for my life," and the valet responded he didn't know what to do. She stated in the affidavit that Manziel threw her into the passenger seat of his car.
Dallas police have the video of the encounter with the valet along with other surveillance, according to the source.
Dallas police confirmed they have reviewed Crowley's medical records. She said in her complaint and in the affidavit that she had a ruptured eardrum. Police also said they hope to finish the case as soon as possible."When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Interesting. Either one will be shown to be lying or one will be taken off to jail.
well, at least one of them has established they do lie to cover their ass.....Im also thinking there must be something on that tape for the cops to take it into evidence....otherwise, they watch it, decide there is nothing there and simply dont press charges....
Same with the medical report.....cant believe her Lawyer would publicly announce she has ear drum damage, knowing full well that it will be checked out and scrutinized.....unless it was true.....Its not looking good for Johnny at all.....
well, at least one of them has established they do lie to cover their ass.....Im also thinking there must be something on that tape for the cops to take it into evidence....otherwise, they watch it, decide there is nothing there and simply dont press charges....
Same with the medical report.....cant believe her Lawyer would publicly announce she has ear drum damage, knowing full well that it will be checked out and scrutinized.....unless it was true.....Its not looking good for Johnny at all.....
No it's certainly not. Can we release him if he's in jail?
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well, at least one of them has established they do lie to cover their ass.....Im also thinking there must be something on that tape for the cops to take it into evidence....otherwise, they watch it, decide there is nothing there and simply dont press charges....
Same with the medical report.....cant believe her Lawyer would publicly announce she has ear drum damage, knowing full well that it will be checked out and scrutinized.....unless it was true.....Its not looking good for Johnny at all.....
No it's certainly not. Can we release him if he's in jail?
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Well....I think if he's in jail, his $$$ comes off the books.....and, in the end, it may free the Browns from having to pay any guaranteed $$...
Well....I think if he's in jail, his $$$ comes off the books.....and, in the end, it may free the Browns from having to pay any guaranteed $$...
I'm pretty sure you get a Get Out Of Jail Free card on first offense. Not sure how it works if you are convicted and the NFL suspends you. Are you still paid? And not sure any affects guaranteed money either.
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Well, you don't go to jail for a first time domestic violence offense do you?
He would bond right out and then probably get sentenced to fine, classes, rehab and community service.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Well, you don't go to jail for a first time domestic violence offense do you?
He would bond right out and then probably get sentenced to fine, classes, rehab and community service.
Zombo
Is her family rich?
If not...
WSS
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Well....I think if he's in jail, his $$$ comes off the books.....and, in the end, it may free the Browns from having to pay any guaranteed $$...
I'm pretty sure you get a Get Out Of Jail Free card on first offense. Not sure how it works if you are convicted and the NFL suspends you. Are you still paid? And not sure any affects guaranteed money either.
I'm pretty sure you get a Get Out Of Jail Free card on first offense. Not sure how it works if you are convicted and the NFL suspends you. Are you still paid? And not sure any affects guaranteed money either.
I think if he is convicted and suspended we are off the hook.
WSS
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Zombo said:
Well, you don't go to jail for a first time domestic violence offense do you?
He would bond right out and then probably get sentenced to fine, classes, rehab and community service.
Zombo
Is her family rich?
If not...
WSS
Is her family rich?
If not...
WSS
Not sure what your angle is.
Johnny would be going up against the State of Texas not her family.
Maybe you are thinking of civil action?
Zombo
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Is her family rich?
If not...
WSS
Not sure what your angle is.
Johnny would be going up against the State of Texas not her family.
Maybe you are thinking of civil action?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Not sure what your angle is.
Johnny would be going up against the State of Texas not her family.
Maybe you are thinking of civil action?
Zombo
Let's see, who is it filing the charges and who was it that made the claim? After speaking to her attorney?
And unless there's a conviction there's no jackpot. You figure out the angle.
WSS
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Zombo said:
Not sure what your angle is.
Johnny would be going up against the State of Texas not her family.
Maybe you are thinking of civil action?
Zombo
Let's see, who is it filing the charges and who was it that made the claim? After speaking to her attorney?
And unless there's a conviction there's no jackpot. You figure out the angle.
WSS
Let's see, who is it filing the charges and who was it that made the claim? After speaking to her attorney?
And unless there's a conviction there's no jackpot. You figure out the angle.
WSS
Well, if there is video of him hitting her, and medical records of injury, it doesn't matter what the angle is/was.
He'll be guilty, he'll get convicted and the NFL will come down hard on him. If he's still in the league.
Zombo
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Let's see, who is it filing the charges and who was it that made the claim? After speaking to her attorney?
And unless there's a conviction there's no jackpot. You figure out the angle.
WSS
Well, if there is video of him hitting her, and medical records of injury, it doesn't matter what the angle is/was.
He'll be guilty, he'll get convicted and the NFL will come down hard on him. If he's still in the league.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Well, if there is video of him hitting her, and medical records of injury, it doesn't matter what the angle is/was.
He'll be guilty, he'll get convicted and the NFL will come down hard on him. If he's still in the league.
Zombo
Yes that's true. So I guess we wait on that video. If he committed the crime he should get the same punishment any average guy should get. But... Unlike you if he gets charged and suspended I hope it's before we have to pay him.
WSS
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Zombo said:
Well, if there is video of him hitting her, and medical records of injury, it doesn't matter what the angle is/was.
He'll be guilty, he'll get convicted and the NFL will come down hard on him. If he's still in the league.
Zombo
Yes that's true. So I guess we wait on that video. If he committed the crime he should get the same punishment any average guy should get. But... Unlike you if he gets charged and suspended I hope it's before we have to pay him.
WSS
Yes that's true. So I guess we wait on that video. If he committed the crime he should get the same punishment any average guy should get. But... Unlike you if he gets charged and suspended I hope it's before we have to pay him.
WSS
If he's suspended, I don't think we get to wash our hands clean. His contract is suspended, and picks up after his suspension. That's what happened with Josh Gordon.
We would still be on the hook for the rest of Johnny's contract, we just wouldn't be obligated to pay him while he's suspended.
That's my assumption.
Zombo
--If we cut him, the cap hit should be the same, whether he is is suspended or not.
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I would have guessed that suspension means we could void the contract for non-fulfillment.
We made the decision not to release Gordon. Hey maybe this will be good. Johnny can go to serious rehab turn his life around and start for us in 2017!
WSS
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If what she claims is true JM will be charged with aggravated domestic assault most likely. It's a 2nd degree felony in Texas with a 2 to 20 year prison sentence.
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/texas-domestic-violence-laws.htm
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and even if he's not she can still go after him in civil court alleging whatever to line her pockets. mental and physical abuse. pain and suffering. boo fucking hoo.
OJ was found not guilty of murdering ron goldman and nicole brown but their families still won a wrongful death suit..............which they'll never see a dime of.
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