cutler to the bears!
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Now maybe we can start a rumor that the Broncos want to give us Orton and a #1 for Quinn. Hell, everybody wants to keep thinking Mangini isn't crazy abbout him.
But, Orton would most likely beat out DA.
But, Orton would most likely beat out DA.
He did beat him out.
His name was Rex Grossman.
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and from the Denver homepage
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=3...mp;storyID=8930
Cutler Traded to Chicago Bears
Updated 4:41 p.m. MDT
The Denver Broncos have agreed in principle to trade quarterback Jay Cutler to the Chicago Bears. Terms of the deal will be disclosed at a later time.
It has been reported that the Broncos will receive a first-round pick in 2009, a third-round pick in 2009, a first-round pick in 2010 and quarterback Kyle Orton in return for Cutler and a fifth-round pick in 2009, though nothing has been officially announced.
In 33 career starts, Orton has compiled a record of 21-12, including a record of 15-2 in home games.
If the reports are correct, the Broncos will have the following picks in the upcoming NFL Draft:
1-12-12 Denver
1-18-18 Denver (from Chicago)
2-16-48 Denver
3-15-79 Denver
3-20-84 Denver (from Chicago)
4-14-114 Denver
5-13-149 Denver
6-12-185 Denver
7-16-225 Denver
7-26-235 Denver (from Atlanta)
It would also mean that over the next two NFL Drafts, the Broncos will have nine picks in the first three rounds.
Check back with DenverBroncos.com for updates.
...Check back with DenverBroncos.com for updates.
Especially in 3 years. That's a boat load of picks.
This isn't quite Hershal Walker or Ricky Williams stuff, but both the Vikings and Saints lost out on the "get a superstar/give up a bunch of picks" deal.
I know I'm missing something, but can someone give an example of a superstar for a ton of draft picks deal which worked out better for the team receiving the superstar?
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You gotta remember that this is the BEARS, who haven't had a franchise QB since Sid Luckman, so this isn't your average superstar trade for them. For them this is attempting to address an historic franchise deficiency.
And when you factor in that Orton only had one year left on his deal and that they'd be using one of those 1st rounders on a QB anyway, it really isn't that crazy of a trade, especially since no QB projects to be as good as Cutler is right now.
AND then consider that the Bears play in the QB-starved NFC North and this move catapults them into instant front-runner status.
All in all, it's a blockbuster that should work out for the Bears much better than the Williams or Walker deals did for those teams.
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But, Orton would most likely beat out DA.
He did beat him out.
His name was Rex Grossman.
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mz. said:
DA isn't THAT bad...
Actually, Grossman led his team to the Super Bowl.
DA led his team to the Toilet Bowl.
Gotta give Grossman the edge there.
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glad he went to them, and that is over.
O and the Bears were dumb, a first and third and Orton ok maybe, two first rounders and a third and Orton. NO FREAKIN WAY!
You really think the Bears were DUMB...........Cutler is a proven NFL quarterback
They get a young Franchise Quarterback for 2 unproven draft choices, what if the draft choices turn out like Kamerion Wimbley will you still say its a DUMB trade
The Bears with this deal just became the favorites to win there division
You really think the Bears were DUMB...........Cutler is a proven NFL quarterback
They get a young Franchise Quarterback for 2 unproven draft choices, what if the draft choices turn out like Kamerion Wimbley will you still say its a DUMB trade
The Bears with this deal just became the favorites to win there division
Before all this McDaniel stuff started up a few months ago I remember hearing and reading from time to time how Jay Cutler was not living up to his billing after the Broncos made him the 11th overall pick in the 2006 draft.
I wouldn't be so quick to give him all these accolades. We'll see how he does when he's on his back three times as much in Chicago as he was in Denver.
In 2008 Cutler had the 2nd highest amount of attemps in the league and was sacked only 11 times. My guess is he'll get
sacked a few more time in a Chicago uniform.
His Qb rating was in the middle of the pack. 6 points higher than Orton's
He's thrown 37 INT's in two years plus 5 games., including the 2nd most in the NFL last year....But he did throw a bucnh of passes so 18 is not horrible.
He's only averaged a TD about every 24 passes. Kyle Orton threw a TD pass every 23 times he threw the ball.
If you throw the ball 616 times, your TD total better be in the mid 20's!!
He threw 4 less TD's on 100 more passes than Derek Anderson did in 2007.
And finally? Add to all this that the guy isn't Mr. Personality. The Denver media has written about it. The guy can rub anyone the wrong way.
If Denver uses one of their 1st round picks next year and can grab a guy like Snead then this trade could end up being a great one for them.....And they still get another 1st! And a third! Put that into perspective....How nice would it be to have a third this year?!!
P.S. Being the favorite in the NFC north isn't saying much. They were probably the favorite before the trade.
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:Whew:
I'm just glad its over with.
Also, holy hell the Bears gave up a lot for Cutler.
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...Check back with DenverBroncos.com for updates.
Especially in 3 years. That's a boat load of picks.
This isn't quite Hershal Walker or Ricky Williams stuff, but both the Vikings and Saints lost out on the "get a superstar/give up a bunch of picks" deal.
I know I'm missing something, but can someone give an example of a superstar for a ton of draft picks deal which worked out better for the team receiving the superstar?
Especially in 3 years. That's a boat load of picks.
This isn't quite Hershal Walker or Ricky Williams stuff, but both the Vikings and Saints lost out on the "get a superstar/give up a bunch of picks" deal.
I know I'm missing something, but can someone give an example of a superstar for a ton of draft picks deal which worked out better for the team receiving the superstar?
The few I can think of are:
The Rams getting Marshall Faulk for some picks in 98 or 99.
Also, didn't the Stoolers get Jerome Bettis for some picks?
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Broncos made out like a bandit. Now they signed Pace, the Bears look like a new team. Good for them, never really had anything against them. We'll except the Superbowl Shuffle.
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