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  • @tour2ma said:

    Just read that on Benji... Question is... at what price?

    Mack out then in makes no sense to me...

    RE: Mack ?? Raise + more guaranteed money maybe?

    Article is out saying we haven't pursued Gip very hard...

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/tashaun_gipson_is_preparing_to.html

    @hoorta said:

    RE: Mack ?? Raise + more guaranteed money maybe?

    Sure, but renegotiation does not require separation.

    Extensions and restructures are announced any and all the time. There are no restrictions on talking to players under contract.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    we weakened the biggest long-term-division-threat by taking Hawk...

    lol...

  • Doesn't LeBron James do that almost every year? Out out and resign?

    @gftchris said:

    Doesn't LeBron James do that almost every year? Out out and resign?

    This really would belong on the Cavs board, but I'll explain....... The NBA salary cap is going up for the next season WAY up. Reason why there wasn't much major player movement at the trade deadline, and teams are clearing cap space like mad. LeBron's next one year deal is going to have a significant raise. LBJ is a totally different case than Mack- he can call his own shots. A superstar basketball player affects win-loss way more than any football player ever could. The Cavs and Warriors would nose dive without James or Curry. LeBron is rapidly approaching GOAT status, and if not there, he's certainly getting into the conversation. If he keeps putting up points at anywhere near his current rate, he'll pass Kareem in around 6 seasons. + Him and Oscar Robertson are the only players in the top 20 in both points & assists. Just MHO, he's more versatile than Jordan, but he'll never catch him in titles. Kevin Durant is a UFA after this season, and it's going to cost a team the Moon to sign him.

  • Jimmy Donovan on WKYC reported tonight that Benji & the Browns were unable to reach an agreement.

    Benji is saying he will test the FA waters.

  • Jimmy Donovan on WKYC reported tonight that Benji & the Browns were unable to reach an agreement.

    Benji is saying he will test the FA waters.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Jimmy Donovan on WKYC reported tonight that Benji & the Browns were unable to reach an agreement.

    Benji is saying he will test the FA waters.

    Well... the FA sim got this one right..

  • David Carr lists Benjamin as his No. 1 WR F/A

    https://t.co/fkLVzscRvv

  • Jimmy Donovan on WKYC reported tonight that Benji & the Browns were unable to reach an agreement.

    Benji is saying he will test the FA waters.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Jimmy Donovan on WKYC reported tonight that Benji & the Browns were unable to reach an agreement.

    Benji is saying he will test the FA waters.

    Should we be surprised? Our analytics guys analyzed, and came to the conclusion Benji was asking too much.

  • David Carr lists Benjamin as his No. 1 WR F/A

    https://t.co/fkLVzscRvv

    @mike-h said:

    David Carr lists Benjamin as his No. 1 WR F/A

    https://t.co/fkLVzscRvv

    that will very much suck if we lose him to the Oakland Raiders. Carr was my 2014 QB preference, if i'm the Raiders FO i'm definitely listening to my franchise QB's reasonable requests....

    Sashi you low-balling motherfucker...

  • Again, If Haslem had Sashi in his pocket as GM. Farmer needed to be fired after 11-15-15 week 10 @ Shitsburg going into our bye the following week. That leaves 7 weeks to get Mack, Schwartz & Benji possibly locked up in 2015. Instead we follow the same pattern of Ward, Skrine, & Sheard. All young prime targets in FA's, get FA ranking & $ evaluations & here we are. Of course it's all about money at this point.. There's always next year 😕..

  • Ward, Sheard, Skrine, Cameron, Mack, Schwartz, Gipson, Benjamin - there's a list of legitimately decent-to-great players that we've let walk or are in the process of letting walk.

    It's fine to say we're building through the draft, and it's the right way to go, but you've got to then keep the players you draft and develop.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Jimmy Donovan on WKYC reported tonight that Benji & the Browns were unable to reach an agreement.

    Benji is saying he will test the FA waters.

    Should we be surprised? Our analytics guys analyzed, and came to the conclusion Benji was asking too much.

    @hoorta said:

    Should we be surprised? Our analytics guys analyzed, and came to the conclusion Benji was asking too much.

    Well that's promising.

    So after the next couple 3 and 13 seasons somebody can stand at the podium and hold up a ratty old Texas Instruments handheld calculator and blame it.

    😉

    WSS

  • @hoorta said:

    Should we be surprised? Our analytics guys analyzed, and came to the conclusion Benji was asking too much.

    Well that's promising.

    So after the next couple 3 and 13 seasons somebody can stand at the podium and hold up a ratty old Texas Instruments handheld calculator and blame it.

    😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Well that's promising.

    So after the next couple 3 and 13 seasons somebody can stand at the podium and hold up a ratty old Texas Instruments handheld calculator and blame it.

    😉

    WSS

    My uncle used to work on coding TI calculators. They had/have an office in my hometown.

  • @hoorta said:

    Should we be surprised? Our analytics guys analyzed, and came to the conclusion Benji was asking too much.

    Well that's promising.

    So after the next couple 3 and 13 seasons somebody can stand at the podium and hold up a ratty old Texas Instruments handheld calculator and blame it.

    😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Well that's promising.

    So after the next couple 3 and 13 seasons somebody can stand at the podium and hold up a ratty old Texas Instruments handheld calculator and blame it.

    😉

    WSS

    Well it's obvious then. This is really a bid to form a new company called Cleveland Instruments in which all products are guaranteed to miscalculate every time. Millions will be bought and given to people for birthday and Xmas gag gifts with colors of orange and brown. I'd buy. 😛

  • @mike-h said:

    David Carr lists Benjamin as his No. 1 WR F/A

    https://t.co/fkLVzscRvv

    that will very much suck if we lose him to the Oakland Raiders. Carr was my 2014 QB preference, if i'm the Raiders FO i'm definitely listening to my franchise QB's reasonable requests....

    Sashi you low-balling motherfucker...

    Sorry, but not going to lose much sleep if we lose Benji. Like him as a #2/#3 WR, but how many times have you ever seen a reception of his and said, "Wow, what a catch?".

    Will miss his punt return contributions, but for every nice return there's been two or more "why did he not field that?" moments.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    that will very much suck if we lose him to the Oakland Raiders. Carr was my 2014 QB preference, if i'm the Raiders FO i'm definitely listening to my franchise QB's reasonable requests....

    ... or his brother's? Methinks you thinks of Derek... 😉

    When did David become a talking head?

  • This season, tour.

  • Looking like our FO is willing to let players test the market.

    If we've treated the players well, and if Sashi is as respected by Agents as we were led to believe when he was promoted, then we should fair well... and not overpay.

  • Looking like our FO is willing to let players test the market.

    If we've treated the players well, and if Sashi is as respected by Agents as we were led to believe when he was promoted, then we should fair well... and not overpay.

    @tour2ma said:

    Looking like our FO is willing to let players test the market.

    If we've treated the players well, and if Sashi is as respected by Agents as we were led to believe when he was promoted, then we should fair well... and not overpay.

    Didn't we try that the last couple years?

    😮

    WSS

  • @tour2ma said:

    Looking like our FO is willing to let players test the market.

    If we've treated the players well, and if Sashi is as respected by Agents as we were led to believe when he was promoted, then we should fair well... and not overpay.

    Didn't we try that the last couple years?

    😮

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Didn't we try that the last couple years?

    😮

    WSS

    And look how well it worked (for other teams). Do the Broncos need to help another Brown get a Superbowl ring? 😛

  • @westside-steve said:

    Didn't we try that the last couple years?

    😮

    WSS

    And look how well it worked (for other teams). Do the Broncos need to help another Brown get a Superbowl ring? 😛

    @texasag1969 said:

    And look how well it worked (for other teams). Do the Broncos need to help another Brown get a Superbowl ring? 😛

    Phil Taylor?

  • Sorry, but not going to lose much sleep if we lose Benji. Like him as a #2/#3 WR, but how many times have you ever seen a reception of his and said, "Wow, what a catch?".

    Will miss his punt return contributions, but for every nice return there's been two or more "why did he not field that?" moments.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    that will very much suck if we lose him to the Oakland Raiders. Carr was my 2014 QB preference, if i'm the Raiders FO i'm definitely listening to my franchise QB's reasonable requests....

    ... or his brother's? Methinks you thinks of Derek... 😉

    When did David become a talking head?

    @tour2ma said:

    Sorry, but not going to lose much sleep if we lose Benji. Like him as a #2/#3 WR, but how many times have you ever seen a reception of his and said, "Wow, what a catch?".

    Will miss his punt return contributions, but for every nice return there's been two or more "why did he not field that?" moments.

    Sign me up for this thought as well. I like him as a player, and I hope he re-signs for continuity more than anything else. His stats from this year though are eerily similar to Brian Hartline's from 2013 as well:

    Benji:

    G Rec Tgt Yds Avg Lg TD

    16 68 124 966 14.2 61 5

    Hartline:

    16 76 134 1,016 13.4 50 4

    before anyone goes crazy on me I get he returns punts and is faster, I get that but it's not like we're losing top flight production here either. I write that comparison to say there's other guys (to include one on our team) who can fill this production role. If Benji leaves and a guy like Sanu signs on I don't think we've let a great one walk out the door.