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  • C Clevfan4life

    unbelievable that birthing centers aren't required to have hospital admitting privileges. Off the top of my head I know a lot of people that have had potentially serious health issues regarding the pregnancy. Giving birth is far more dangerous for a woman than an abortion unless it's a very late term abortion

    @clevfan4life said:

    unbelievable that birthing centers aren't required to have hospital admitting privileges. Off the top of my head I know a lot of people that have had potentially serious health issues regarding the pregnancy. Giving birth is far more dangerous for a woman than an abortion unless it's a very late term abortion

    Well, women have been giving birth since the beginning.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
    gftChrisG 1 Reply

  • they've also been having abortions too for a very long time, we don't need to discuss those details. In any case, if something goes wrong...which it often does...why on earth would you not want birthing centers to have admitting rights? And you realize that if something goes wrong with the mother the baby usually doesn't make it, right?

  • or it comes out hideously deformed.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @clevfan4life said:

    unbelievable that birthing centers aren't required to have hospital admitting privileges. Off the top of my head I know a lot of people that have had potentially serious health issues regarding the pregnancy. Giving birth is far more dangerous for a woman than an abortion unless it's a very late term abortion

    Well, women have been giving birth since the beginning.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Well, women have been giving birth since the beginning.

    And until relatively recently had a good chance of dying in the process.

    DieHardBrownsFanD 1 Reply

  • but that was ok, they're just baby chattle anyway.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Well, women have been giving birth since the beginning.

    And until relatively recently had a good chance of dying in the process.

    @gftchris said:

    And until relatively recently had a good chance of dying in the process.

    Its in gods hands.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
    gftChrisG C jbluhm86J 3 Replies
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @gftchris said:

    And until relatively recently had a good chance of dying in the process.

    Its in gods hands.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Its in gods hands.

    Then god's a bit of a douche. Now it's in our own hands.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @gftchris said:

    And until relatively recently had a good chance of dying in the process.

    Its in gods hands.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Its in gods hands.

    So when folk have heart attacks, negatory on the hospital trip? I mean it's gods hands and all, we shouldn't be fucking with the will of god and whatnot. If he's calling a nucca home he's callin a nucca home.

  • C Clevfan4life

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Its in gods hands.

    So when folk have heart attacks, negatory on the hospital trip? I mean it's gods hands and all, we shouldn't be fucking with the will of god and whatnot. If he's calling a nucca home he's callin a nucca home.

    @clevfan4life said:

    So when folk have heart attacks, negatory on the hospital trip? I mean it's gods hands and all, we shouldn't be fucking with the will of god and whatnot. If he's calling a nucca home he's callin a nucca home.

    Why do you think it costs so much? Going against god's will isn't something to be done lightly.

  • You guys and your outrage. Its funny.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    You guys and your outrage. Its funny.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You guys and your outrage. Its funny.

    You must be trying to play the victim... Typical

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    I think there is a whole lot of evidence to make the claim that Obama is the most pro abortion president we have ever had. I don't want to get into dueling google searches but just a quick google search on Obama being the most pro abortion president brings up huge amounts of articles to support that claim.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think there is a whole lot of evidence to make the claim that Obama is the most pro abortion president we have ever had. I don't want to get into dueling google searches but just a quick google search on Obama being the most pro abortion president brings up huge amounts of articles to support that claim.

    And at one point we had the most "pro equal treatment of black people" president too. I'd expect a modern president to be the most pro choice because that is the majority.

    (the term is pro choice btw. No one is hoping women have more abortions. You support their right to make their own decisions.)

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think there is a whole lot of evidence to make the claim that Obama is the most pro abortion president we have ever had. I don't want to get into dueling google searches but just a quick google search on Obama being the most pro abortion president brings up huge amounts of articles to support that claim.

    And at one point we had the most "pro equal treatment of black people" president too. I'd expect a modern president to be the most pro choice because that is the majority.

    (the term is pro choice btw. No one is hoping women have more abortions. You support their right to make their own decisions.)

    @mld-woody said:

    And at one point we had the most "pro equal treatment of black people" president too. I'd expect a modern president to be the most pro choice because that is the majority.

    (the term is pro choice btw. No one is hoping women have more abortions. You support their right to make their own decisions.)

    Yep. People are becoming more pro-choice in general, so it figures that the president also would be part of that trend.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    You guys and your outrage. Its funny.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You guys and your outrage. Its funny.

    pointing out inconsistency and hypocrisy is not outrage.

    gftChrisG 1 Reply
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think there is a whole lot of evidence to make the claim that Obama is the most pro abortion president we have ever had. I don't want to get into dueling google searches but just a quick google search on Obama being the most pro abortion president brings up huge amounts of articles to support that claim.

    And at one point we had the most "pro equal treatment of black people" president too. I'd expect a modern president to be the most pro choice because that is the majority.

    (the term is pro choice btw. No one is hoping women have more abortions. You support their right to make their own decisions.)

    @mld-woody said:

    (the term is pro choice btw. No one is hoping women have more abortions. You support their right to make their own decisions.)

    this right here. But conservatives cannot for the life of them wrap their heads around that concept. Supporting a womans right to do with her body as she chooses is not the same as seeing a pregnant woman walking down the street and yelling at her to get that shit taken care of bitch.

  • C Clevfan4life

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You guys and your outrage. Its funny.

    pointing out inconsistency and hypocrisy is not outrage.

    @clevfan4life said:

    pointing out inconsistency and hypocrisy is not outrage.

    Or just people being wrong.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @gftchris said:

    And until relatively recently had a good chance of dying in the process.

    Its in gods hands.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Its in gods hands.

    If that's the case, his hands are about as steady as Michael J. Fox's:

    http://www.hopexchange.com/Statistics.htm

    • Average number of confirmed annual pregnancies in the U.S: 4,400,000
      • 900,000 to 1 million of those end in pregnancy losses annually
        • More than 500,000 pregnancies each year end in miscarriage (occurring during the first 20 weeks).
        • Approximately 26,000 end in stillbirth (considered stillbirth after 20 weeks)
        • Approximately 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage; some estimates are as high as 1 in 3. If you include loss that occurs before a positive pregnancy test, some estimate that 40% of all conceptions result in loss.
      • Average number of abortions annually in U.S. (2012): 699,202 abortions http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6410a1.htm?s_cid=ss6410a1_w
        • 699,202/4,400,00 = 16% of all estimated pregnancies are terminated by artificial means.

    Humans = 16% of ended pregnancies

    "God" = 25-40% of ended pregnancies

    So, I guess we can put the whole "religious ethics" - angle of abortion protesting in the rubbish bin. Jesus loves the little children, indeed.

    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson

  • So you don't have to be religious to be opposed to abortion.

    Unless, of course, morality is religion based.

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    gftChrisG 1 Reply

  • It's all part of god's plan.

    1. create earth by weekend

    2. chill out on sunday

    3. plant fake dinosaur skeletons to catch people out

    4. unexpected pregnancies

    5. oops! I'd better take care of that

    6. skiing and sauna with odin and the gang

  • W Westside Steve

    So you don't have to be religious to be opposed to abortion.

    Unless, of course, morality is religion based.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So you don't have to be religious to be opposed to abortion.

    Unless, of course, morality is religion based.

    WSS

    This is true, I can perfectly understand Cysko's opposition to abortion. Though, in that case I believe we just have a different 'tolerance' of the term before abortion.

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