Jonathan Paul Manziel
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DAs going for what they know they can get and leaving it to the Grand Jury to indict on other counts as they see warranted?
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DAs going for what they know they can get and leaving it to the Grand Jury to indict on other counts as they see warranted?
DAs going for what they know they can get and leaving it to the Grand Jury to indict on other counts as they see warranted?
I don't know if a grand jury can go beyond the charge brought before them in the state of Texas. These articles refers to grand jury in this state is used for felony indictment, not misdemeanors. So how do they send it to a grand jury when it is a misdemeanor charge?
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/jlg01
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/how-does-a-grand-jury-work.html
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Class A misdemeanor assault/domestic violence.
Looks like Johnny will be formally charged with that.
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Referred to a grand jury* who will then decide if he will be charged with it.
Class A misdemeanor assault/domestic violence.
Looks like Johnny will be formally charged with that.
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Referred to a grand jury* who will then decide if he will be charged with it.
Interesting he's possibly going to be charged with the lesser domestic assault. If she did have a busted eardrum I would figure they'd seak the greater charge. Honestly who knows how much if any of this could be proven past a he said/she said.
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He will get out it cause hes treated like a hero in texas any normal person would been arrested that night!!!!
No they wouldn't.He will get out it cause hes treated like a hero in texas any normal person would been arrested that night!!!!
There wouldn't even have investigation if it were two drunk hillbillies on North Hill. The cops would come to any $60,000 house in Akron and tell the people to shut up.
Especially if she was even drunker than him and screaming about non-existent injuries.
The only reason either of these incidents made news is that he is a celebrity.
WSS
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I wonder if he skips his lawyer meeting too?
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I wonder if he skips his lawyer meeting too?
I wonder if he skips his lawyer meeting too?
No, he is down in Cabo following in the footsteps of his old timey hero, Max Bear (this is the real M.B. from a movie role when he was in his prime).
JM is working out for his next NFL QB stint.
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This reporter explains the grand jury referral pretty well (watch the embedded video). A month or more before the grand jury hearing.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14846300/johnny-manziel-case-sent-grand-jury-dallas-cops
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This reporter explains the grand jury referral pretty well (watch the embedded video). A month or more before the grand jury hearing.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14846300/johnny-manziel-case-sent-grand-jury-dallas-cops
This reporter explains the grand jury referral pretty well (watch the embedded video). A month or more before the grand jury hearing.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14846300/johnny-manziel-case-sent-grand-jury-dallas-cops
And so it shall be Former Cleveland Browns QB Johnny Manziel indicted today ...
Do we put that thread in the Barber Shop since he will no longer be a football player?
Zombo
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This reporter explains the grand jury referral pretty well (watch the embedded video). A month or more before the grand jury hearing.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14846300/johnny-manziel-case-sent-grand-jury-dallas-cops
And so it shall be Former Cleveland Browns QB Johnny Manziel indicted today ...
Do we put that thread in the Barber Shop since he will no longer be a football player?
Zombo
Zombo said:
And so it shall be Former Cleveland Browns QB Johnny Manziel indicted today ...
Do we put that thread in the Barber Shop since he will no longer be a football player?
Zombo
Then you'll have to move Jim Brown statue.

WSS
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Zombo said:
And so it shall be Former Cleveland Browns QB Johnny Manziel indicted today ...
Do we put that thread in the Barber Shop since he will no longer be a football player?
Zombo
Then you'll have to move Jim Brown statue.

WSS
Then you'll have to move Jim Brown statue.

WSS
Jim was a Brown.
He still is.
I think Manziel officially becomes a Kardashian on March 9th.
Z
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Steve come on man , he is a woman beater no doubt even if she is crazy as hell. The judge didn't just issue a 2 year restraining order with no evidence or concern. They specifically stated that there was sufficient evidence family violence occurred.Exactly. No matter what kind of demons or what kind of bad behavior no matter how irresponsible he is and no matter what kind of disrespect he showed a football coach is not a reason to accuse him of beating up a chick when there's no evidence of it. As a matter of fact it's kind of fucked up.
WSS
Steve come on man , he is a woman beater no doubt even if she is crazy as hell. The judge didn't just issue a 2 year restraining order with no evidence or concern. They specifically stated that there was sufficient evidence family violence occurred.
actually they do it all the time. most will hand em out like candy at a parade, cuz if there was just cause and they did not grant it?? epic lawsuit. so they grant anything w potential and sort it out later.
a TPO as Gipper labeled, or temporary protective order, is put in place based on testimony alone without any true evidence. basically all you have to do is fill out ppwk, wait to see a Judge and say the magic words "i fear for my life" and BAM you got it. in and out in under an hour in most cases in most places.
then, a permanent hearing is set typically 10-14 days or so later. that hearing will decide if there was sufficient grounds to issue the TPO in the first place, and if so the order is made permanent with opportunity to ammend the conditions. if the alleged "victim" who filed doesn't show up for the PPO hearing it usually expires and the order is then revoked.
it's definitely a very effective way for malicious scumbag liars to really screw w someone. you can easily wreck someones life pretty badly. and things usually snowball from there. it can also buy you a couple weeks to let things calm down. BUT, if the victim reports the defendent contacted them while the TPO is in place, it typically gets really fucking bad quick. without any due process at all, either a bench warrant or a pick up warrant is issued and next thing you know the person is in jail awaiting the chance to defend themselves against the accusations.
so, you bond out and get some representation (cuz now it's a criminal matter). too bad it's way too easy to fraudulently show a record of someone calling you nowadays. there are tons of apps like bluffmycalldotcom that allow you to choose how ur caller ID shows up to the person you are calling. get the TPO, make the fake call to yourself posing as them, print the "evidence" or show them your phone's call log and contact the police. show em your temporary order and the call record (they won't dispute, there is absolutely nothing in place to stop this from happening to you at any time) pile on a bit that said person uses or deals drugs, hates cops, owns weapons, thinks this whole thing is a joke etc etc. whalah! instant trainwreck.
so, you take a plea and thousands of dollars later you are just finishing up your anger mgt classes and halfway through your probation. the appeal window after the Protection order hearings is tiny, like 10-15 days, and trying to overturn the TPO by arguing it did not have sufficient grounds to be granted in the first place (no TPO to begin with means no TPO to violate) can be incredibly difficult. also, it is a civil order, not a lot of lawyers will take these types of cases due to the layers and detailed work involved appeaing. also, you usually cannot present any new info. there is a lot of work involved in these cases and it gets expensive fast. most folks are unsuccessful or they just take a plea and grind thru it.
i know enough about the process to write the above, because it literally happened to me. still, i am no expert. having said that, imo Ms. Coleen Crowley seems coached to me. she knows what she's doing, scarily so, and that's rare knowledge to acquire among people her age. there is almost no penalty or retaliation from the courts even if you lie and they figure it out. your option is essentially filing totally separate civil suit against the victim for the hassle etc. it's a losing situation for the accused, bad shit all around. very easy to get, very hard to overcome.
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No, I don't care that Johnny is still drinking, legally. Even if it is drinking champagne straight out of the bottle in a club like a douche.
But I found the commentary on the hat funny. "No white guy wears a hat like that and has his shit together in life".
And no one puts Johnny on the second page.
Zombo
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And now we know more about Colleen's personality.
Exactly what would it take in a human to be attracted to someone like Colleen? JFF chose her, not the other way around.
From this, we develop a picture of who JFF actually is: Someone who needs drama to feel "alive", and simply can't sit down/shut up and do work of any sort because it bores him.
You know, exactly the kind of person you don't want on a team.
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This is why everyone who asserts "He's Young, He'll Learn" is 100% wrong. He'll never learn. I don't know if intellectually he can or not, but it doesn't matter because his character as a person prevents him from ever actually growing in any substantive way.
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Even though we might disagree on whether or not you want somebody like that on your team, there is some truth to your statement. I don't know how many of the guys on this board have ever had one of those relationships. I know I have. They do wear you down in time, but until that happens the passion is almost irresistible.
WSS
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