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Republican Debate 2/25/16

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  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Trump needs to face these questions as he will surely be facing many of them from democrats if he wins the GOP primaries:

    Cruz's favorite line of attack was Trump's long history of donating to Democrats, which Cruz said proved the real estate mogul was either a closet liberal or insufficiently dedicated to conservatism.

    "If you look at the eight members of the Gang of Eight, Donald gave over $50,000 to three Democrats and two Republicans," Cruz said. "When you're funding open border politicians, you shouldn't be surprised when they fight for open borders."

    But when Trump said "I donated to you" that pretty much #Stumped Cruz.

    Trump donated to everybody - and he has voted republican in basically every election since the late 80s. Though I'd say he's really more of an independent - given involvement in the reform party and such, he's definitely not a democrat.

    @bbedward said:

    But when Trump said "I donated to you" that pretty much #Stumped Cruz.

    Trump donated to everybody - and he has voted republican in basically every election since the late 80s. Though I'd say he's really more of an independent - given involvement in the reform party and such, he's definitely not a democrat.

    Trump has been all over the map though. Google search will be his biggest weapon against him.

  • @bbedward said:

    But when Trump said "I donated to you" that pretty much #Stumped Cruz.

    Trump donated to everybody - and he has voted republican in basically every election since the late 80s. Though I'd say he's really more of an independent - given involvement in the reform party and such, he's definitely not a democrat.

    Trump has been all over the map though. Google search will be his biggest weapon against him.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Trump has been all over the map though. Google search will be his biggest weapon against him.

    For as big as Trump is and has been for so long, the best they can do is "he's too liberal." In the general election the democrats are going to say "he's too conservative"

    I think that's pretty good, donating to democrats doesn't matter - especially when you're a real estate developer in the very liberal NYC (and New York state for that matter).

    The only reason Rubio looked semi-effective against Trump is because him and his paid audience wouldn't shut up (though his points on polish workers and inheritance were both bogus). Cruz, however, got bent over by both of them. It's time for Cruz to pack it up and support Rubio - he's the establishment's last chance (although Trump already won the nomination)

  • Interesting point on Kasich/Rubio - one dropping out would massively help the other, but neither wants to give up, so neither will win (posit's the author). Classic game theory scenario that has been studied to death.

  • I think my theory is better.

    Kasich is staying in to try to win Ohio - because the only way Trump can lose is if he loses both Ohio and Florida (still unlikely, but it's the only chance).

    Kasich is very close with Trump in Ohio while nobody else really is - though Lubio isn't even close to Trump in Florida.

    Kasich will drop out shortly after Ohio - win or lose.

  • Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump debates in the fall should be classic. Once Trump locks up the republican primaries I look for most republicans to support him even the establishment ones (what else are they going to do?) And then Trump will say how honest Cruz really is, and Jeb really isn't so low energy, and Rubio isn't so bad after all and those guys will say they really kind of like Trump after all and there you have American politics.

  • He will probably pick one of them as a running mate.

  • He will probably pick one of them as a running mate.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    He will probably pick one of them as a running mate.

    I think Kasich would be best. Ohio is a must win state for any republican as well as Kasich being a nice balance for Trump and having tons of experience in politics. That would be my pick.

  • Would anyone be totally surprised by this scenario:

    Donald Trump wins the nomination hands down and then announces fuck you I'm not going to run.

    WSS

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    He will probably pick one of them as a running mate.

    I think Kasich would be best. Ohio is a must win state for any republican as well as Kasich being a nice balance for Trump and having tons of experience in politics. That would be my pick.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think Kasich would be best. Ohio is a must win state for any republican as well as Kasich being a nice balance for Trump and having tons of experience in politics. That would be my pick.

    Agree. But he would probably pick Rubio because of the Hispanic vote. Or perhaps a hispanic or black female?

  • Would anyone be totally surprised by this scenario:

    Donald Trump wins the nomination hands down and then announces fuck you I'm not going to run.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Would anyone be totally surprised by this scenario:

    Donald Trump wins the nomination hands down and then announces fuck you I'm not going to run.

    WSS

    I think it would be more subtle than that. But not totally surprised, no.

    "..and at the same time, I'd like to announce Trump Political Consultancy!"

  • Would anyone be totally surprised by this scenario:

    Donald Trump wins the nomination hands down and then announces fuck you I'm not going to run.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Would anyone be totally surprised by this scenario:

    Donald Trump wins the nomination hands down and then announces fuck you I'm not going to run.

    WSS

    I doubt it.