Camp Goff
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I think the "athleticism gap" is over estimated (and the Combine numbers will show it) and Wentz's resume is simply too thin...
Plus have I mentioned recently that I don't like running QBs?
No bridging this gap, TC, but as usual, it was interesting trying....
That's your prerogative.
It's also a misnomer calling Wentz a running QB - he's just simply a more talented athlete.
You'll eventually come around after we take Wentz.
It's also a misnomer calling Wentz a running QB...
4.78 and 4.79??? Your were right... not a running QB.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
It's also a misnomer calling Wentz a running QB...
4.78 and 4.79??? Your were right... not a running QB.
4.78 and 4.79??? Your were right... not a running QB.
Exactly what I said he'd run, FTR.
He's not a running QB.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Quick feet quick release, balls out.
The most polished QB in the draft.
Pretty good comments by Mayock
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I could live with either one so let's play the trade down game.
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Or we could not trade down and take the clear #1 prospect.
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Or we could not trade down and take the clear #1 prospect.
Or we could not trade down and take the clear #1 prospect.
I agree. Why trade down and miss out on Wentz.
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Exactly what I said he'd run, FTR.
IIRC only if we truncate...
On the other hand Wentz's 3-cone was better than I thought it'd be.
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Quick feet quick release, balls out.
The most polished QB in the draft.
Pretty good comments by Mayock
Quick feet quick release, balls out.
The most polished QB in the draft.
Pretty good comments by Mayock
Wentz did well as well though, bb...
I'm wavering a little. Need another tape injection to get me back on track...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Yea the combine isn't as comparable as a game, though from what I've seen and heard Goff was more accurate with better anticipation still.
bb - you are having trouble being objective here. Stuck on a player. Wentz was equal and showed far better than I anticipated. I could live with either.
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Yea the combine isn't as comparable as a game, though from what I've seen and heard Goff was more accurate with better anticipation still.
bb - you are having trouble being objective here. Stuck on a player. Wentz was equal and showed far better than I anticipated. I could live with either.
bb - you are having trouble being objective here. Stuck on a player. Wentz was equal and showed far better than I anticipated. I could live with either.
Nah I just didn't watch, been day drinking - I heard they were both good though. (So I still side with who is better on tape)
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I would prefer Goff, but if Wentz is drafted by the Browns I wouldn't be disappointed.
Those 2 guys are the best of the QB draft class this year.
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bb - you are having trouble being objective here. Stuck on a player. Wentz was equal and showed far better than I anticipated. I could live with either.
Nah I just didn't watch, been day drinking - I heard they were both good though. (So I still side with who is better on tape)
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Cal QB Jared Goff cites Hue Jackson as reason he can turn Browns around
By Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com on February 25, 2016 at 5:26 PM, updated February 25, 2016 at 11:59 PM
INDIANAPOLIS -- Cal quarterback Jared Goff cited Browns coach Hue Jackson as the reason he could change the narrative in win-starved Cleveland if the Browns draft him No. 2 overall.
"It starts with coach Jackson,'' Goff said during his podium interview Thursday at the NFL Combine. "He's a great coach, and that if he ends up choosing me or whatever quarterback he ends up choosing, he's going to be able to make the guy successful. He's a great coach, a great offensive mind and a great quarterback guy.''
Goff has heard great things about Jackson, a former Cal assistant, from some folks in Berkeley, and from their mutual good friend and Cal alum Michael Silver, an NFL Network analyst. Goff will spend time with Jackson here at the combine.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/cal_qb_jared_goff_cites_hue_ja.html
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'd be happy with either, though still prefer Goff based on the brain and anticipation/quick release. Someone said Goff was the only one to make throws before guys made their breaks - and was on point doing so, pretty good with a bunch of receivers you have no chemistry with.
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Cal QB Jared Goff cites Hue Jackson as reason he can turn Browns around
By Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com on February 25, 2016 at 5:26 PM, updated February 25, 2016 at 11:59 PM
INDIANAPOLIS -- Cal quarterback Jared Goff cited Browns coach Hue Jackson as the reason he could change the narrative in win-starved Cleveland if the Browns draft him No. 2 overall.
"It starts with coach Jackson,'' Goff said during his podium interview Thursday at the NFL Combine. "He's a great coach, and that if he ends up choosing me or whatever quarterback he ends up choosing, he's going to be able to make the guy successful. He's a great coach, a great offensive mind and a great quarterback guy.''
Goff has heard great things about Jackson, a former Cal assistant, from some folks in Berkeley, and from their mutual good friend and Cal alum Michael Silver, an NFL Network analyst. Goff will spend time with Jackson here at the combine.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/cal_qb_jared_goff_cites_hue_ja.html
Cal QB Jared Goff cites Hue Jackson as reason he can turn Browns around
By Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com on February 25, 2016 at 5:26 PM, updated February 25, 2016 at 11:59 PM
INDIANAPOLIS -- Cal quarterback Jared Goff cited Browns coach Hue Jackson as the reason he could change the narrative in win-starved Cleveland if the Browns draft him No. 2 overall.
"It starts with coach Jackson,'' Goff said during his podium interview Thursday at the NFL Combine. "He's a great coach, and that if he ends up choosing me or whatever quarterback he ends up choosing, he's going to be able to make the guy successful. He's a great coach, a great offensive mind and a great quarterback guy.''
Goff has heard great things about Jackson, a former Cal assistant, from some folks in Berkeley, and from their mutual good friend and Cal alum Michael Silver, an NFL Network analyst. Goff will spend time with Jackson here at the combine.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/cal_qb_jared_goff_cites_hue_ja.html
Any questions about how smart this kid is?
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I'd be happy with either, though still prefer Goff based on the brain and anticipation/quick release. Someone said Goff was the only one to make throws before guys made their breaks - and was on point doing so, pretty good with a bunch of receivers you have no chemistry with.
I'd be happy with either, though still prefer Goff based on the brain and anticipation/quick release. Someone said Goff was the only one to make throws before guys made their breaks - and was on point doing so, pretty good with a bunch of receivers you have no chemistry with.
I watched Wentz anticipate the breaks on long outs to the right pretty well yesterday and all were on target. I did not get to see Goff but assume he did the same.
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If I'm not mixing this up here, Goff's footwork for a guy that never got up under center looked as smooth and efficient as if it's all he's been doing all this time. This kid made everything look easy.
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I think Goff and Wentz are two winners, and no team will pay the price
to move up to pick one or the other.
Goff showed a good bit more arm strength than I thought, from questions about it.
In a few years, Lynch could be right up there with them - a winner. We'll see.
It would seem that with the AFC north, Wentz is the obvious choice.
But Peyton Manning was a skinny kid, too. I'll be cheering the pick of either one.
Don't make a bet on the Browns not drafting a qb at 2, you'll lose the bet.
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