Camp Wentz- Starts here.
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LOL! Nothing that several of us haven't said over the last few years throughout every change of staff. I mean he must have seen the T-shirt.
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Wentz looked really good out there and showed he is worth a look. I would not be upset if we go with him at number 2.
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after watching the combine.....right now i'd take either one of them (goff OR wentz) @2. i was leaning goff and still like his throwing motion more than wentz BUT wentz just owned the field with his confidence.
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I have questioned, and graded his arm accordingly. It isn't bad, at all, and plenty of QBs have succeeded with sub-elite arm strength.Me either. I heard someone else questioned his arm strength when the female commentator reported what some front offices/teams/coaches were saying. I haven't seen any evidence of that either.
Goff has an ideal starting point for an NFL team to tap.
It's hard for the Browns to mess this up: pick either one.
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"Sub-elite" is a fair description for Goff, but personally I don't see elite arm strength in this draft.
Wentz may be closest, but he does not seem to have the kind of zip that makes the air "sizzle".
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"Sub-elite" is a fair description for Goff, but personally I don't see elite arm strength in this draft.
Wentz may be closest, but he does not seem to have the kind of zip that makes the air "sizzle".
"Sub-elite" is a fair description for Goff, but personally I don't see elite arm strength in this draft.
Wentz may be closest, but he does not seem to have the kind of zip that makes the air "sizzle".
You mean combined with other desired QB attributes? Because plenty of guys have big arms.
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"Sub-elite" is a fair description for Goff, but personally I don't see elite arm strength in this draft.
Wentz may be closest, but he does not seem to have the kind of zip that makes the air "sizzle".
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"Sub-elite" is a fair description for Goff, but personally I don't see elite arm strength in this draft.
Wentz may be closest, but he does not seem to have the kind of zip that makes the air "sizzle".
You mean combined with other desired QB attributes? Because plenty of guys have big arms.
You mean combined with other desired QB attributes? Because plenty of guys have big arms.
Strictly an arm-strength comment. I don't disagree with "big", but big < elite...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
We also have to consider that the QBs might have been taking something off their throws for touch to make it easier for the receivers to catch the ball. I will hold my conclusions on arm strength till I see more of the QBs passes in small windows with actual defenders on the field.
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I like Wentz's total package. He seems imo to have more size,athleticism, and touch than
Goff. Goff seems a little on the dainty side. Wentz reminds me more of the AFC north type Qb
Flacco/Worthlessburger. Goff a little more like Dalton in Cincinnati. Ok he'll get ya to the
playoffs (which would be nice) but not the big trophy! I'd be ok with either,but would feel
somewhat like we settled for Goff. I'm tired of settling! We deserve #1 with the #2!!!!
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Here's something, FWIW
https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/704358141140439040
There's still time to jump on the right train.
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I am fully on board the Wentz train. I have nothing against Goff but after the combine and hearing about his background. A straight A student who works hard on his grades, shows me he will do the work, preparation needed to be a QB in this league. And I am fine with him sitting a year or at least part of it before taking over. So count me in!
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Puff piece - Carson Wentz has never received a B in his life.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Strictly an arm-strength comment. I don't disagree with "big", but big < elite...
OK, no Elway arms. As someone said about John- "he could throw the ball through a car wash, and it would come out dry on the other side." If Elway was a 9, Wentz is probably an 8.
Here's something, FWIW
https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/704358141140439040
There's still time to jump on the right train.
Yo, Mike, that's just physical characteristics. If Wentz compares favorably to Rothlisberger, sign me up.
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Strictly an arm-strength comment. I don't disagree with "big", but big < elite...
OK, no Elway arms. As someone said about John- "he could throw the ball through a car wash, and it would come out dry on the other side." If Elway was a 9, Wentz is probably an 8.
Here's something, FWIW
https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/704358141140439040
There's still time to jump on the right train.
Yo, Mike, that's just physical characteristics. If Wentz compares favorably to Rothlisberger, sign me up.
OK, no Elway arms. As someone said about John- "he could throw the ball through a car wash, and it would come out dry on the other side." If Elway was a 9, Wentz is probably an 8.
Yo, Mike, that's just physical characteristics. If Wentz compares favorably to Rothlisberger, sign me up.
Just providing more information.
I think Aaron Rodgers' arm is a 10, where 10 is the most ideal. Elway pretty close. I graded Wentz at 9. Graded Goff at 8.25.
I have a "what my grades" mean piece that I'm working on that I'll publish before I release scouting reports some time this week.
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Wentz is getting a lot of love. If we pick him I won't hate it
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OK, no Elway arms. As someone said about John- "he could throw the ball through a car wash, and it would come out dry on the other side." If Elway was a 9, Wentz is probably an 8.
Yo, Mike, that's just physical characteristics. If Wentz compares favorably to Rothlisberger, sign me up.
Just providing more information.
I think Aaron Rodgers' arm is a 10, where 10 is the most ideal. Elway pretty close. I graded Wentz at 9. Graded Goff at 8.25.
I have a "what my grades" mean piece that I'm working on that I'll publish before I release scouting reports some time this week.
I think Aaron Rodgers' arm is a 10, where 10 is the most ideal. Elway pretty close. I graded Wentz at 9. Graded Goff at 8.25.
I have a "what my grades" mean piece that I'm working on that I'll publish before I release scouting reports some time this week.
Seem like reasonable estimates... I might quibble a little, but will await more data points, e.g., Favre, Hoyer, McCown...
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Puff piece - Carson Wentz has never received a B in his life.
Puff piece - Carson Wentz has never received a B in his life.
but he likes it in his B.
just like you.
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