Park your tents

[Tour2ma]

Goff, of course...

@gftchris said:

When was the last time people had this much confidence in someone within the browns?

Think you have to go all the way back to 2014... Farmer and Pet.

Before that 2013, when Walrus was sent packing...

Don't think so? Do the search and you'll see..

[gftChris]

@tour2ma said:

Goff, of course...

Think you have to go all the way back to 2014... Farmer and Pet.

Before that 2013, when Walrus was sent packing...

Don't think so? Do the search and you'll see..

You're probably right I guess.

[Canton Dawg]

Pick 1a Goff

Pick 1b Wentz

Either way it has to be a QB, we have a quality veteran QB to mentor a young guy fresh out of college.

[bbedward]

@gftchris said:

You're probably right I guess.

People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

[gftChris]

@bbedward said:

People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

I seem to recall people not being particularly high on Pettine though.

[bbedward]

@gftchris said:

I seem to recall people not being particularly high on Pettine though.

I think if you ask the Raiders fans they'd say don't give Hue personnel decisions no matter what you do! But Browns fans are extremely confident in him choosing out QBOTF, so we'll see. Nobody really knows how much control Sushi and Paul and the other guy nobody cares about have over the draft - but I assume it's not Hue's decision alone anyway.

[gftChris]

@bbedward said:

I think if you ask the Raiders fans they'd say don't give Hue personnel decisions no matter what you do! But Browns fans are extremely confident in him choosing out QBOTF, so we'll see. Nobody really knows how much control Sushi and Paul and the other guy nobody cares about have over the draft - but I assume it's not Hue's decision alone anyway.

I think part of it is that it's not just Hue, but we have a Hue-gely experienced coaching staff this year, filled with 'lifers'

The general reaction to Pettine was 'who?'

[VaporTrail]

I'm in Camp Wentz. Guy is built like a linebacker, has a cannon, and a brain. I want to see AFCN defenders bounce off of our QB for a change.

[wargograw]

@texasag1969 said:

Well 9% of us think a trade down is in order. Lot of folks want defenders this year and we need extra players in multiple positions.

Edit: When you feel fine with either QB, a trade down just a little makes sense.

Interesting. I was the other trade down guy.

[Tour2ma]

@bbedward said:

People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

Banner/Lombardi got a boost just because their ascension meant Holmgren's departure.

@gftchris said:

I seem to recall people not being particularly high on Pettine though.

Pet was a virtual unknown. So the instant reaction was "Who?" Then the good reports from BUF developed support in short order...

@bbedward said:

I think if you ask the Raiders fans they'd say don't give Hue personnel decisions no matter what you do! But Browns fans are extremely confident in him choosing out QBOTF, so we'll see. Nobody really knows how much control Sushi and Paul and the other guy nobody cares about have over the draft - but I assume it's not Hue's decision alone anyway.

Seems like already seeing some early signs of "divergence" over analytics's role. Hopefully just me over-reading between the lines.

[gftChris]

@tour2ma said:

Pet was a virtual unknown. So the instant reaction was "Who?" Then the good reports from BUF developed support in short order...

@gftchris said:

The general reaction to Pettine was 'who?'

I covered that...

[hoorta]

@mark-o said:

I'm good with either Goff or Wentz. I trust Hue to know which QB he wants.

Ditto, voted Wentz, but I'm fine with Goff if that's who Hue likes.

[One Post]

Wentz.

After the season ended I was all for trading down. I've flip flopped because of reading most of your posts. We need a qb and I feel letting Wentz go would be idiotic. If he doesn't pan out at least we tried and we wouldn't be the first team to guess wrong at#2.

[stillmotion]

analytics says trade down....

[gumby73]

if it were analytic it would be Ramsey ahead of Bosa. I will illegally park my tent as Hue says "get me Goff or Wentz at QB & I'll coach the shit of him". PS-- AND don't fuck that up!! Voted Wentz..

[CaineDeSoulis]

Wentz getting my vote over goff. If equal go with size

[stillmotion]

Goff is the next rodgers. Wentz could be a bortles.

[Kennel Club]

Goff over Wentz for me.

[wargograw]

@cainedesoulis said:

Wentz getting my vote over goff. If equal go with size

Equal is a myth.

[miktoxic]

@tour2ma said:

Banner/Lombardi got a boost just because their ascension meant Holmgren's departure.

Pet was a virtual unknown. So the instant reaction was "Who?" Then the good reports from BUF developed support in short order...

Seems like already seeing some early signs of "divergence" over analytics's role. Hopefully just me over-reading between the lines.

there is nothing about haslam (considering what happened with his last regime) that makes me confident about anything done from top>down with this org. anymore. what comes out of his mouth you might as well take with a grain of salt. it's all hot air. when he gives you the thumbs up and his 'vote of confidence' what it really means is you're a season away from losing your job.

HOPEFULLY we can all look back at hue jackson (when he's out kickin nickels on the street) as the guy that got the browns their franchise QB............. finally. even though another coach and FO will be benefiting from the pick.

and the carousel will continue.

and fuck mike holmgren. never liked him from the first time i laid eyes on that fat fuck.