Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Probably Dimitrius Underwood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrius_Underwood
Unless, back in the day, some guy got drafted and got cut in training camp.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Probably Dimitrius Underwood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrius_Underwood
Unless, back in the day, some guy got drafted and got cut in training camp.
Zombo
his coaches at Michigan State warned NFL scouts that he was not mentally stable enough to play in the NFL.
Now, would NFL scouts ignore such a warning in this day and age? I doubt it.
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Probably Dimitrius Underwood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrius_Underwood
Unless, back in the day, some guy got drafted and got cut in training camp.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Probably Dimitrius Underwood.
"after his stock rose with his pre-draft workouts" was all I need to read.......... Gotta love the combine, where supposedly smart football people suddenly become really dumb.
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Z & Larry, I sure hope you guys are right. My gut tells me you are, but I won't rest easy until it's a done deal.
Mike
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Zombo said:
Probably Dimitrius Underwood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrius_Underwood
Unless, back in the day, some guy got drafted and got cut in training camp.
Zombo
his coaches at Michigan State warned NFL scouts that he was not mentally stable enough to play in the NFL.
Now, would NFL scouts ignore such a warning in this day and age? I doubt it.
Justin Gilbert comes to mind, but word has it that nobody from the Browns even spoke to Gilbert until after he was drafted.his coaches at Michigan State warned NFL scouts that he was not mentally stable enough to play in the NFL.
Now, would NFL scouts ignore such a warning in this day and age? I doubt it.
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They are not keeping him around. They are fighting over who gets to hit "send" on his release to the NFL.
Zombo
Followed by Dwayne Blowe, and Bustin' Gilbert.Zombo said:
They are not keeping him around. They are fighting over who gets to hit "send" on his release to the NFL.
Zombo
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Followed by Dwayne Blowe, and Bustin' Gilbert.Zombo said:
They are not keeping him around. They are fighting over who gets to hit "send" on his release to the NFL.
Zombo
Followed by Dwayne Blowe, and Bustin' Gilbert.
I don't see them cutting Gilbert. New staff will want to get their hooks into that athleticism.
Zombo
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Essentially, it is a bastardized version of basketball.....though to me the sport seems unnecessary....as what they should do is to just play real basketball.
It would be much better with donkeys....
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Probably Dimitrius Underwood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrius_Underwood
Unless, back in the day, some guy got drafted and got cut in training camp.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
Unless, back in the day, some guy got drafted and got cut in training camp.
Since there were 30 rounds back in the 50's I'd say TC cuts are a safe bet...
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Today's the day
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PoG, pass the potato chips and hand me another beer.
WSS
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Zombo said:
Cleveland can cut Johnny at 4 PM tomorrow.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/browns_will_cut_ties_with_john.html
I think it is done by 4:01 PM.
Which will make his career as a Brown shorter than Brandon Weeden's, who was cut on March 12th after his second season.
Johnny still setting records.
Zombo
I agree Z, 4:01 tomorrow. For sure a Browns record. Maybe Gip can look up the NFL record for the fastest cut of a first round pick.
I agree Z, 4:01 tomorrow. For sure a Browns record.
Was curious so did a little research....and think Craig Powell may have the record....only made it 1/2 way through his second season....and never started a single game.....thanks Bullychick!
A few other 2 year wonders were Clifford Charlton, Pete Adams & Mike Junkin.....and making things worse, Charlton and Junkin were back to back picks.....
And, of course, there was Don Rogers.....
So....Johnny, Weeds, Powell, Charlton, Junkin, Adams and Rogers = 7 first rounders gone in 2 years or less.....turble
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Other glorious moments:
Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.
Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.
Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins
Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone
Jeff Faine ... three years and gone
William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...
And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...
Can we nail one this year?
Zombo
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Other glorious moments:
Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.
Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.
Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins
Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone
Jeff Faine ... three years and gone
William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...
And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...
Can we nail one this year?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Other glorious moments:
Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.
Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.
Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins
Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone
Jeff Faine ... three years and gone
William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...
And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...
Can we nail one this year?
Zombo
Missed Weeden, two-and-done, Little, Massequoi, others...
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Zombo said:
Other glorious moments:
Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.
Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.
Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins
Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone
Jeff Faine ... three years and gone
William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...
And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...
Can we nail one this year?
Zombo
Missed Weeden, two-and-done, Little, Massequoi, others...
Missed Weeden, two-and-done, Little, Massequoi, others...
Ha!....we're talking first round......just havent got the strength to discuss 2nd and later.....
Though...if I was.....Id start with Ron Brown and Tom Skladany.....
....Id almost venture to say out 2nd rounders have outperformed the firsts.....
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I don't think we'll make another 25 pages...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Other glorious moments:
Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.
Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.
Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins
Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone
Jeff Faine ... three years and gone
William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...
And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...
Can we nail one this year?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Other glorious moments:
Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.
Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.
Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins
Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone
Jeff Faine ... three years and gone
William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...
And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...
Can we nail one this year?
Zombo
How far down the draft are we to go? Just first rounders?
OK, I see, never mind.
I am going to put some documentation about Browns 1st round busts on another thread of its own.
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If we don't get a quality starter at number two there are going to be some bad feelings.
WSS
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Zombo said:
Other glorious moments:
Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.
Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.
Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins
Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone
Jeff Faine ... three years and gone
William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...
And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...
Can we nail one this year?
Zombo
Missed Weeden, two-and-done, Little, Massequoi, others...
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