Jonathan Paul Manziel

[bbedward]

Today's the day

[Westside Steve]

PoG, pass the potato chips and hand me another beer.

WSS

[Mudfly]

@hoorta said:

I agree Z, 4:01 tomorrow. For sure a Browns record.

Was curious so did a little research....and think Craig Powell may have the record....only made it 1/2 way through his second season....and never started a single game.....thanks Bullychick!

A few other 2 year wonders were Clifford Charlton, Pete Adams & Mike Junkin.....and making things worse, Charlton and Junkin were back to back picks.....

And, of course, there was Don Rogers.....

So....Johnny, Weeds, Powell, Charlton, Junkin, Adams and Rogers = 7 first rounders gone in 2 years or less.....turble

[Zombo]

Other glorious moments:

Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.

Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.

Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins

Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone

Jeff Faine ... three years and gone

William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...

And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...

Can we nail one this year?

Zombo

[Mudfly]

I sure hope so....

cause the scary part is we havent even mentioned Gilbert, Winslow, Holden, Phipps or Mingo yet....Hahahahahaaaaaa

(laughing, otherwise I might cry)

[gftChris]

Zombo said:

Other glorious moments:

Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.

Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.

Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins

Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone

Jeff Faine ... three years and gone

William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...

And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...

Can we nail one this year?

Zombo

Missed Weeden, two-and-done, Little, Massequoi, others...

[Mudfly]

@gftchris said:

Missed Weeden, two-and-done, Little, Massequoi, others...

Ha!....we're talking first round......just havent got the strength to discuss 2nd and later.....

Though...if I was.....Id start with Ron Brown and Tom Skladany.....

....Id almost venture to say out 2nd rounders have outperformed the firsts.....

[Tour2ma]

I don't think we'll make another 25 pages...

[The Gipper]

Zombo said:

Other glorious moments:

Trent, #3 overall and traded early in his second season.

Phil Taylor didn't make it to his second contract.

Brady Quinn ... 3 years: 3 wins

Kam Wimbley ... four years and gone

Jeff Faine ... three years and gone

William Green, Tommy Vardell, Charles White, William Adams ...

And that's not even touching these Top o' the Draft heartbreaks who stayed and played, but not like Top ten picks: Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Braylon Edwards ...

Can we nail one this year?

Zombo

How far down the draft are we to go? Just first rounders?

OK, I see, never mind.

I am going to put some documentation about Browns 1st round busts on another thread of its own.

[Westside Steve]

If we don't get a quality starter at number two there are going to be some bad feelings.

WSS

[Zombo]

@gftchris said:

Missed Weeden, two-and-done, Little, Massequoi, others...

Yes, Weeds was mentioned originally. Sticking to first rounders, but thanks to adding to the pain.

Zombo

[Zombo]

@tour2ma said:

I don't think we'll make another 25 pages...

I'll merge the "drama & dopey thread" and then there will be a whole 'nother thread to merge when we cut him.

No problemo.

Soon ... The Big Merge.

Zombo

[darren15]

I used to get worried whenever the commentator would say Weeden to Josh Gordon ......

[TexasAg1969]

Zombo said:

I'll merge the "drama & dopey thread" and then there will be a whole 'nother thread to merge when we cut him.

No problemo.

Soon ... The Big Merge.

Zombo

Merge the analytics guys in there too. They'd fit right in.

[The Gipper]

What is the status of the grand jury investigation....if that is what is going on...into the DV allegations against JFF?

[TexasAg1969]

@the-gipper said:

What is the status of the grand jury investigation....if that is what is going on...into the DV allegations against JFF?

It takes months in Dallas to get before a grand jury, especially since it is not a felony charge being asked for and a signed (by JM) protective order is already in place.

[hoorta]

@tour2ma said:

I don't think we'll make another 25 pages...

Nope

Zombo said:

I'll merge the "drama & dopey thread" and then there will be a whole 'nother thread to merge when we cut him.

No problemo.

Soon ... The Big Merge.

Zombo

I agree Z. After the big heave-ho, we can start a Johnny Gonzo Thread. Can we start taking opinions on how soon it's going to happen? I say before 5PM today.

[The Gipper]

@hoorta said:

Nope

I agree Z. After the big heave-ho, we can start a Johnny Gonzo Thread. Can we start taking opinions on how soon it's going to happen? I say before 5PM today.

Can we have a 1 day Sayonara Sucker party for JFF....then a moratorium on him after that?

[Tour2ma]

@the-gipper said:

....then a moratorium on him after that?

Good idea, but doomed to fail...

Someday he'll do something great again, like complete a pass, and the "told-you-so's" will come a runnin'...

[Mudfly]

@tour2ma said:

Someday he'll do something great again, like complete a pass, and the "told-you-so's" will come a runnin'...

Ahahahaha.....exactly.....