Mitch Schwartz
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Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)
So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.
Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise.
Yeah - Ron Yary.
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Gotta keep your 3-13 core guys for sure.
I like the sarcasm but the two highest paid players are a 31 year old LT and a concussion prone DB at $24 million. If "blowing this up" was truly what this is all about people better not get upset when Thomas gets moved for a 6th rounder on draft day.
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Gotta keep your 3-13 core guys for sure.
I like the sarcasm but the two highest paid players are a 31 year old LT and a concussion prone DB at $24 million. If "blowing this up" was truly what this is all about people better not get upset when Thomas gets moved for a 6th rounder on draft day.
I like the sarcasm but the two highest paid players are a 31 year old LT and a concussion prone DB at $24 million. If "blowing this up" was truly what this is all about people better not get upset when Thomas gets moved for a 6th rounder on draft day.
Haden has one of the most inflated, bad contracts in the NFL. Hasn't been a top 5 corner (or even sniffed that territory) in 2 years since he signed it.
If anyone needs to go, it's him next.
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I like the sarcasm but the two highest paid players are a 31 year old LT and a concussion prone DB at $24 million. If "blowing this up" was truly what this is all about people better not get upset when Thomas gets moved for a 6th rounder on draft day.
Haden has one of the most inflated, bad contracts in the NFL. Hasn't been a top 5 corner (or even sniffed that territory) in 2 years since he signed it.
If anyone needs to go, it's him next.
Haden has one of the most inflated, bad contracts in the NFL. Hasn't been a top 5 corner (or even sniffed that territory) in 2 years since he signed it.
If anyone needs to go, it's him next.
Gotta think the guaranteed money makes him impossible to trade. Don't think the Browns will cut him.
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Mitchell Schwartz Chiefs deal: $33 million, $15M gtd, $7M signing bonus, salaries $750K, $4.9M, $5.7M, $6M, $6M
Mitchell Schwartz base salaries fully gtdin 2016, 2017; 2018 gtd for injury at signing, full gt if on roster third day 2018 league year
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Mitchell Schwartz Chiefs deal: $33 million, $15M gtd, $7M signing bonus, salaries $750K, $4.9M, $5.7M, $6M, $6M
Mitchell Schwartz base salaries fully gtdin 2016, 2017; 2018 gtd for injury at signing, full gt if on roster third day 2018 league year
Mitchell Schwartz Chiefs deal: $33 million, $15M gtd, $7M signing bonus, salaries $750K, $4.9M, $5.7M, $6M, $6M
Mitchell Schwartz base salaries fully gtdin 2016, 2017; 2018 gtd for injury at signing, full gt if on roster third day 2018 league year
Going by these numbers, it's entirely possible that the Browns' rumored offer was more lucrative than the one he eventually signed for.
And even if it wasn't, am I the only one that would have been completely fine with these terms?
I know, I know. I have to have patience.
But if we're bringing in a rookie QB, we need to be able to protect him. And in my opinion, letting Schwartz go for a little over $6M/yr is... sloppy.
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and who are the people that were praising the firing of the last regime and are now befuddled with what's happening in the FO now?
geez. and some thought we'd just magically jump to 10 and 6 with the hiring of an 8 and 8 head coach and some brainiac suits.
No one thinks that.
Adhering to the "build through the draft and maintain your core players" mantra is what some are upset about, Schwartz was a key young player. Thanks.
No one thinks that.
Adhering to the "build through the draft and maintain your core players" mantra is what some are upset about, Schwartz was a key young player. Thanks.
Mitchell Schwartz Chiefs deal: $33 million, $15M gtd, $7M signing bonus, salaries $750K, $4.9M, $5.7M, $6M, $6M
Mitchell Schwartz base salaries fully gtdin 2016, 2017; 2018 gtd for injury at signing, full gt if on roster third day 2018 league year
Now I'm pissed- I'd be 100% happy with those numbers.
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No one thinks that.
Adhering to the "build through the draft and maintain your core players" mantra is what some are upset about, Schwartz was a key young player. Thanks.
Mitchell Schwartz Chiefs deal: $33 million, $15M gtd, $7M signing bonus, salaries $750K, $4.9M, $5.7M, $6M, $6M
Mitchell Schwartz base salaries fully gtdin 2016, 2017; 2018 gtd for injury at signing, full gt if on roster third day 2018 league year
Now I'm pissed- I'd be 100% happy with those numbers.
Now I'm pissed- I'd be 100% happy with those numbers.
I'm just incredulous at the whole damn day.
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I guess the difference was the guaranteed money. I hope the teams that our fa's go to
lose plenty of games, especially to the Browns. We'll see how it goes.
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Mitchell Schwartz Chiefs deal: $33 million, $15M gtd, $7M signing bonus, salaries $750K, $4.9M, $5.7M, $6M, $6M
Mitchell Schwartz base salaries fully gtdin 2016, 2017; 2018 gtd for injury at signing, full gt if on roster third day 2018 league year
Going by these numbers, it's entirely possible that the Browns' rumored offer was more lucrative than the one he eventually signed for.
And even if it wasn't, am I the only one that would have been completely fine with these terms?
I know, I know. I have to have patience.
But if we're bringing in a rookie QB, we need to be able to protect him. And in my opinion, letting Schwartz go for a little over $6M/yr is... sloppy.
And even if it wasn't, am I the only one that would have been completely fine with these terms?
Nope... already posted that a 3-yr, $7.5mm average with 60% guaranteed was fine by me and if 5-yr, then $8mm and 50% was OK. Would have put Mitch solidly atop the RT pay scale... a position he earned.
Plus when there is no injury history or work ethic concerns, you pay up front... a schedule which would also fit with a rookie QB deal.
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I'm just incredulous at the whole damn day.
Sashi should have been chasing their cars and hoping they come back. "WITH YOUR HELP WE CAN GET TO 4-12!!!"
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if players want to go to a winning team, they would go for
$1 more...or less.
It ain't over til we SAY it's over.
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Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)
So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.
Why are we so concerned with saving a couple million dollars when we have like 40 million in cap space. What exactly are we saving this money for?
Why are we so concerned with saving a couple million dollars when we have like 40 million in cap space. What exactly are we saving this money for?
I don't know.....maybe it is just a matter of principle to them. Get the best, cheapest bargain you can.
Some of the biggest, cheapest skinflints you will ever run across are people with a ton of money. That is how some of them got rich.
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Why are we so concerned with saving a couple million dollars when we have like 40 million in cap space. What exactly are we saving this money for?
I don't know.....maybe it is just a matter of principle to them. Get the best, cheapest bargain you can.
Some of the biggest, cheapest skinflints you will ever run across are people with a ton of money. That is how some of them got rich.
I don't know.....maybe it is just a matter of principle to them. Get the best, cheapest bargain you can.
If we pulled a higher, counter offer that the agent wanted to shop around, then I think that is a principled stand.
"Best, cheapest..."??? Not so much...
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would a skin flint pay Dwayne Bowe 12m and a Kruger 8m?......Tour posted yesterday that the Browns are #6 in the league for FA payroll.....thats pretty high....
Its not that they are cheap.....its that they pick the wrong talent to pay.....almost every time.....
I know Im pretty much alone in thinking they made a couple of right choices on who NOT to over pay yesterday......So lets wait and see if they get something right this year.....
new day....new draft....and another spring has sprung....
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would a skin flint pay Dwayne Bowe 12m and a Kruger 8m?......Tour posted yesterday that the Browns are #6 in the league for FA payroll.....thats pretty high....
Its not that they are cheap.....its that they pick the wrong talent to pay.....almost every time.....
I know Im pretty much alone in thinking they made a couple of right choices on who NOT to over pay yesterday......So lets wait and see if they get something right this year.....
new day....new draft....and another spring has sprung....
would a skin flint pay Dwayne Bowe 12m and a Kruger 8m?......Tour posted yesterday that the Browns are #6 in the league for FA payroll.....thats pretty high....
Its not that they are cheap.....its that they pick the wrong talent to pay.....almost every time.....
I know Im pretty much alone in thinking they made a couple of right choices on who NOT to over pay yesterday......So lets wait and see if they get something right this year.....
new day....new draft....and another spring has sprung....
Well, the skinflints I am talking about is Sashi Brown and DePodesta, not Haslam. They and their analytics have now been put in charge....and I think JH is letting them do their thing here. And this may be a part of their thing.
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