Browns Kaepernick Rumors
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Why? Depending on the cost....as long as it is low, I am certainly willing to take a chance.
Then we can all join Camp Bosa, no?
Why? Depending on the cost....as long as it is low, I am certainly willing to take a chance.
Then we can all join Camp Bosa, no?
If the Browns were 100% not taking a QB at 2, put me in camp Ramsey
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Nathan Z on CBD said some NFL insider (Schefter or Morton or whoever don't remember) said if the Browns traded for Kaep they'd still draft Goff or Wentz. Take that for what you will.
I take it to be a pile of BS. You don't get a young QB....only 28, in his prime to be your starter and immediately draft his replacement.
You might go get someone in round 4-5 for that. Not #2 overall. If the Browns still want a QB at #2...then don't go after Kaepernik.
I agree and I really don't want Kaep. Much prefer Goff. The fact that they are considering it suggests maybe they don't think Goff or Wentz are worth the second pick of the draft.I take it to be a pile of BS. You don't get a young QB....only 28, in his prime to be your starter and immediately draft his replacement.
You might go get someone in round 4-5 for that. Not #2 overall. If the Browns still want a QB at #2...then don't go after Kaepernik.
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Kap isn't smart enough to play QB in the NFL, he was a gimmick QB in a zone read offense in 2012, DC's figured him out, stacked the box and forced him to throw the rock and make good reads and he's incapable of doing it consistently. His mechanics are terrible, his ability to read and diagnose a defense is terrible, his psyche is fragile, he isolated himself from the locker room in SF after he got benched. Just an immature, fragile, flawed player. The only reason he has any sort of value is because of how barren the QB landscape is in today's NFL and if you've ever won a handful of games as a starter (Kap, Osweiler, RG3, Fitzpatrick) you're all of a sudden a valuable asset. Kap is garbage and I don't want to waste time on him, he's not the answer long term. The only one of those guys who might have some long term success is Osweiler.
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Its my understanding that the Browns and 49ers have reached an agreement on the trade.... the hangup right now are the terms of Kaps new contract....so now....its whether we can get him to agree to a realistic restructured contract amount.....stay tuned.....
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Kap isn't smart enough to play QB in the NFL, he was a gimmick QB in a zone read offense in 2012, DC's figured him out, stacked the box and forced him to throw the rock and make good reads and he's incapable of doing it consistently. His mechanics are terrible, his ability to read and diagnose a defense is terrible, his psyche is fragile, he isolated himself from the locker room in SF after he got benched. Just an immature, fragile, flawed player. The only reason he has any sort of value is because of how barren the QB landscape is in today's NFL and if you've ever won a handful of games as a starter (Kap, Osweiler, RG3, Fitzpatrick) you're all of a sudden a valuable asset. Kap is garbage and I don't want to waste time on him, he's not the answer long term. The only one of those guys who might have some long term success is Osweiler.
Kap isn't smart enough to play QB in the NFL, he was a gimmick QB in a zone read offense in 2012, DC's figured him out, stacked the box and forced him to throw the rock and make good reads and he's incapable of doing it consistently. His mechanics are terrible, his ability to read and diagnose a defense is terrible, his psyche is fragile, he isolated himself from the locker room in SF after he got benched. Just an immature, fragile, flawed player. The only reason he has any sort of value is because of how barren the QB landscape is in today's NFL and if you've ever won a handful of games as a starter (Kap, Osweiler, RG3, Fitzpatrick) you're all of a sudden a valuable asset. Kap is garbage and I don't want to waste time on him, he's not the answer long term. The only one of those guys who might have some long term success is Osweiler.
Its kinda like not your decision to make. If he comes here you will waste time on him.
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A scenario I read on Fan Sided. The Forty-Niners trade with Tenessee and get Jared Goff.
It's a long way to the draft but I would never give up the second round pick at #32 Never
A scenario I read on Fan Sided. The Forty-Niners trade with Tenessee and get Jared Goff.
It's a long way to the draft but I would never give up the second round pick at #32 Never
Yeah- our #32 for Kap, and they use that and their #9 to move up to #1?
And if this trade is going down, I hope to God he comes cheap. Anything more than a fourth for damaged goods is too much in my book.
I agree with the previous. They trade for Kap, we're not taking Goff or Wentz.
Its my understanding that the Browns and 49ers have reached an agreement on the trade.... the hangup right now are the terms of Kaps new contract....so now....its whether we can get him to agree to a realistic restructured contract amount.....stay tuned.....
Lowball with incentives. Please.
Its kinda like not your decision to make. If he comes here you will waste time on him.
I won't waste time, but if he comes in and sucks. Well, you know the drill. Hue and the FO will have immediately shot themselves in the other foot. (They already shot one foot, in many fans minds, screwing up FA.)
I got a bad, bad feeling about this one Gip..
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@hoorta said:
Yeah- our #32 for Kap,
Holy god no....they wouldnt......no way....right?
Though wouldnt surprise me to see some kind of swap of picks, allowing the niners to get the #2....something like #7 - kap and a mid rounder for our #2 perhaps?.....or just a mid rounder for him straight up 4th? 5th?......
Gotta remember, they promised him a boat load of $$$$$$, so we are actually doing them a favor by taking him.....
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Kap isn't smart enough to play QB in the NFL, he was a gimmick QB in a zone read offense in 2012, DC's figured him out, stacked the box and forced him to throw the rock and make good reads and he's incapable of doing it consistently. His mechanics are terrible, his ability to read and diagnose a defense is terrible, his psyche is fragile, he isolated himself from the locker room in SF after he got benched. Just an immature, fragile, flawed player. The only reason he has any sort of value is because of how barren the QB landscape is in today's NFL and if you've ever won a handful of games as a starter (Kap, Osweiler, RG3, Fitzpatrick) you're all of a sudden a valuable asset. Kap is garbage and I don't want to waste time on him, he's not the answer long term. The only one of those guys who might have some long term success is Osweiler.
Its kinda like not your decision to make. If he comes here you will waste time on him.
Its kinda like not your decision to make. If he comes here you will waste time on him.
Nope. I'll always be a Browns fan but that doesn't mean I have to support a front office that is so disillusioned and has their heads shoved so far up their own asses that they lost sight of the big picture. Bringing in Kap isn't a big picture move, it's a short sighted attempt at slapping a band-aid over a bullet wound. I will take an ugly 2016 if it means doing a rebuild the RIGHT WAY, not trying to appease fans/advertisers/financial backers by bringing in a high profile QB to help sell tickets, win couple extra games, and let Hue live out his pipe dream of turning water into wine with a flawed QB. There's no long term staying power, it will fall apart and we'll be right back where we started.
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Its my understanding that the Browns and 49ers have reached an agreement on the trade.... the hangup right now are the terms of Kaps new contract....so now....its whether we can get him to agree to a realistic restructured contract amount.....stay tuned.....
Its my understanding that the Browns and 49ers have reached an agreement on the trade.... the hangup right now are the terms of Kaps new contract....so now....its whether we can get him to agree to a realistic restructured contract amount.....stay tuned.....
Source??? I hope you don't have one.......
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if this team gets Kaep.. I may as well hang up My fandom for this team... No football men to even run the thing... Im at a loss for words.. but Im beginning to build a personal hate for My beloved Brownns because the only thing theyre good at is doing everything totally the wrong way..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Its kinda like not your decision to make. If he comes here you will waste time on him.
Nope. I'll always be a Browns fan but that doesn't mean I have to support a front office that is so disillusioned and has their heads shoved so far up their own asses that they lost sight of the big picture. Bringing in Kap isn't a big picture move, it's a short sighted attempt at slapping a band-aid over a bullet wound. I will take an ugly 2016 if it means doing a rebuild the RIGHT WAY, not trying to appease fans/advertisers/financial backers by bringing in a high profile QB to help sell tickets, win couple extra games, and let Hue live out his pipe dream of turning water into wine with a flawed QB. There's no long term staying power, it will fall apart and we'll be right back where we started.
Nope. I'll always be a Browns fan but that doesn't mean I have to support a front office that is so disillusioned and has their heads shoved so far up their own asses that they lost sight of the big picture. Bringing in Kap isn't a big picture move, it's a short sighted attempt at slapping a band-aid over a bullet wound. I will take an ugly 2016 if it means doing a rebuild the RIGHT WAY, not trying to appease fans/advertisers/financial backers by bringing in a high profile QB to help sell tickets, win couple extra games, and let Hue live out his pipe dream of turning water into wine with a flawed QB. There's no long term staying power, it will fall apart and we'll be right back where we started.
Like I said in another post, the Browns still want either Goff or Wentz. We know Josh McCown cant stay healthy. So the way I see it, we Kaep in FA, but start Josh. If and when he goes down, we bring in Kaep. This way Goff or Wentz can sit the pine for the season and learn.
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I may be the only one on the Kaep train but bring it on. If my decision is a QB that helped a team make a Super Bowl and the starter for North Dakota State, no decision to make.
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A scenario I read on Fan Sided. The Forty-Niners trade with Tenessee and get Jared Goff.
It's a long way to the draft but I would never give up the second round pick at #32 Never
Yeah- our #32 for Kap, and they use that and their #9 to move up to #1?
And if this trade is going down, I hope to God he comes cheap. Anything more than a fourth for damaged goods is too much in my book.
I agree with the previous. They trade for Kap, we're not taking Goff or Wentz.
Its my understanding that the Browns and 49ers have reached an agreement on the trade.... the hangup right now are the terms of Kaps new contract....so now....its whether we can get him to agree to a realistic restructured contract amount.....stay tuned.....
Lowball with incentives. Please.
Its kinda like not your decision to make. If he comes here you will waste time on him.
I won't waste time, but if he comes in and sucks. Well, you know the drill. Hue and the FO will have immediately shot themselves in the other foot. (They already shot one foot, in many fans minds, screwing up FA.)
I got a bad, bad feeling about this one Gip..
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Let's do it.
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@hoorta said:
Yeah- our #32 for Kap,
Holy god no....they wouldnt......no way....right?
Though wouldnt surprise me to see some kind of swap of picks, allowing the niners to get the #2....something like #7 - kap and a mid rounder for our #2 perhaps?.....or just a mid rounder for him straight up 4th? 5th?......
Gotta remember, they promised him a boat load of $$$$$$, so we are actually doing them a favor by taking him.....
Holy god no....they wouldnt......no way....right?
Though wouldnt surprise me to see some kind of swap of picks, allowing the niners to get the #2....something like #7 - kap and a mid rounder for our #2 perhaps?.....or just a mid rounder for him straight up 4th? 5th?......
Gotta remember, they promised him a boat load of $$$$$$, so we are actually doing them a favor by taking him.....
Year ...... Base ...... ProRated . Roster..... Workout....... Cap # .. Dead Money. Pre-June 1 Savings
2016 $11,900,000 $2,465,753 $2,000,000 $400,000 $15,890,753 $7,397,260 $8,493,493
2017 $14,500,000 $2,465,753 $2,000,000 $400,000 $19,365,753 $4,931,507 $14,434,246
2018 $15,000,000 $2,465,754 $2,000,000 $400,000 $19,865,754 $2,465,754 $17,400,000
2019 $16,800,000 $0 ---------- $2,000,000 $400,000 $19,200,000 $0 ----------- $19,200,000
2020 $19,000,000 $0 -----------$2,000,000 $400,000 $21,400,000 $0 ----------- $21,400,000
Wentz is starting to look a lot better to me... So much would rather raise our own.
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I may be the only one on the Kaep train but bring it on. If my decision is a QB that helped a team make a Super Bowl and the starter for North Dakota State, no decision to make.
I may be the only one on the Kaep train but bring it on. If my decision is a QB that helped a team make a Super Bowl and the starter for North Dakota State, no decision to make.
No, I am also on his train. This just means that we will have 3 good QB (if Josh stays healthy). I really think Kaep will come in and perform much better with us. Too many naysayers on this forum.
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Like we have any say in what Haslam and his henchmen do. If we took Kaepernick we could get Bosa at #2, Derrick Henry, Cardale Jones in 3rd or 4th. Mike Mayock was at Ohio State's Pro Day and thinks Jones will go 3-4 round. That's my positive slant. The negative is Kaepernick had surgeries and won't be able to throw until June.
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