Browns Kaepernick Rumors
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That's old news. Since this article, Kaepernick has shown that he is unwilling to restructure his contact. I think (and hope) the deal is dead because it makes zero sense for the Browns to make this move.
What really concerns me is this move would contradict everything they've been doing since Sashi Brown took over. Analytics would tell you to stay far away from Kaepernick. So why pursue him? My best guess is he'd be a 'wedding' present to Hue, who is probably banging the drum for the trade because he wanted to draft him when he was Oakland's head coach. And if the HC and FO aren't completely on the same page already, we already know how this ends...
No idea what analytics would say here other than the standard deviation is pretty high...
As for restructuring... even if Kaep is unwilling, if SF picks up a piece of his salary, then it's the same to us...
I see no rhyme or reason to trading for Kaepernick to be perfectly honest, unless he is our unquestioned starting QB for the next 5 years (or what passes for 5 years in cleveland). Trading for him *and* drafting a young QB to take over in a couple of years seems pointless. We have McCown to fill that bridge/mentor role already, and he certainly is no worse than Kaepernick last year.
On the flip side, if Hue thinks Kaep can be his guy, and we can pick up our franchise QB for a third round pick, then do it, and don't worry about the contract, it's already pretty team friendly, then go after Bosa/Jack/whoever in the draft and load up that way.
Agree, but then the Kaep&Draft QB Club has a lot of membership in common with the Draft 2 QBs Club... another approach I do not "get"...
Agree, but then the Kaep&Draft QB Club has a lot of membership in common with the Draft 2 QBs Club... another approach I do not "get"...
People see Kirk Cousins doing well and want some of that action. Never mind that the redskins could have not drafted RG3, not given away three top-40 picks and been in a much better place. Of course, the Rams haven't exactly kicked on to the playoffs with those picks.
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Cleveland Browns looking likely to land Colin Kaepernick http://www.snsanalytics.com/yw2Xy5
I hear things were going the other way over Kaepernick's refusal to renegotiate his outrageous salary.
Again....just another guy who may be ambivalent about actually playing the game looking to Cleveland for a big payday?
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That's old news. Since this article, Kaepernick has shown that he is unwilling to restructure his contact. I think (and hope) the deal is dead because it makes zero sense for the Browns to make this move.
What really concerns me is this move would contradict everything they've been doing since Sashi Brown took over. Analytics would tell you to stay far away from Kaepernick. So why pursue him? My best guess is he'd be a 'wedding' present to Hue, who is probably banging the drum for the trade because he wanted to draft him when he was Oakland's head coach. And if the HC and FO aren't completely on the same page already, we already know how this ends...
No idea what analytics would say here other than the standard deviation is pretty high...
As for restructuring... even if Kaep is unwilling, if SF picks up a piece of his salary, then it's the same to us...
I see no rhyme or reason to trading for Kaepernick to be perfectly honest, unless he is our unquestioned starting QB for the next 5 years (or what passes for 5 years in cleveland). Trading for him *and* drafting a young QB to take over in a couple of years seems pointless. We have McCown to fill that bridge/mentor role already, and he certainly is no worse than Kaepernick last year.
On the flip side, if Hue thinks Kaep can be his guy, and we can pick up our franchise QB for a third round pick, then do it, and don't worry about the contract, it's already pretty team friendly, then go after Bosa/Jack/whoever in the draft and load up that way.
Agree, but then the Kaep&Draft QB Club has a lot of membership in common with the Draft 2 QBs Club... another approach I do not "get"...
No idea what analytics would say here other than the standard deviation is pretty high...
As for restructuring... even if Kaep is unwilling, if SF picks up a piece of his salary, then it's the same to us...
Agree, but then the Kaep&Draft QB Club has a lot of membership in common with the Draft 2 QBs Club... another approach I do not "get"...
I am a member of this club (though I'd rather draft 2 QBs than take Kaep and draft a qb). The justification is pretty simple. Drafting multiple QBs gives you more than one swing at the plate. Putting all your eggs in one basket means you sink or swim with that one QB. If you drafted two and the supposed franchise QB fails, well, you have also developed a third-round pick QB that you can try out before going back to the QB drawing board. And given the Browns history with QBs, they need as many swings at the plate as quickly as possible until they get it right.
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Cleveland Browns looking likely to land Colin Kaepernick http://www.snsanalytics.com/yw2Xy5
I hear things were going the other way over Kaepernick's refusal to renegotiate his outrageous salary.
Again....just another guy who may be ambivalent about actually playing the game looking to Cleveland for a big payday?
I hear things were going the other way over Kaepernick's refusal to renegotiate his outrageous salary.
Not outrageous for a high-quality starter.... and the only way he gets to the big dollars at the back-end is if he regains his High-quality starter status.
The stipulation that his deal is fully guaranteed in case of injury has far bigger sticking point potential. We might be negotiating for SF to throw in the insurance policy they undoubtedly bought to cover that possibility.
But in any case time is on our side. SF is facing a Apr 1 deadline on Kaep's 2016 salary.
....but he IS the one who is still here.....
Which only reinforces not drafting another backup QB...
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I was told this morning by a co worker that Kap is negotiating with us to restructure. "But", he's willing to restructure more for Denver. Soooo he's using us as leverage.
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I was told this morning by a co worker that Kap is negotiating with us to restructure. "But", he's willing to restructure more for Denver. Soooo he's using us as leverage.
I was told this morning by a co worker that Kap is negotiating with us to restructure. "But", he's willing to restructure more for Denver. Soooo he's using us as leverage.
Sounds like that co-worker is following twitter.
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Boys I think you are still looking at Connor Shaw through some rose-colored spectacles.
WSS
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Boys I think you are still looking at Connor Shaw through some rose-colored spectacles.
WSS
Boys I think you are still looking at Connor Shaw through some rose-colored spectacles.
WSS
Ah, garnet.
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Boys I think you are still looking at Connor Shaw through some rose-colored spectacles.
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Ah, garnet.
Ah, garnet.
(FYI....he went to South Carolina....colors being garnet and black....ergo the reference)
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Cleveland Browns looking likely to land Colin Kaepernick http://www.snsanalytics.com/yw2Xy5
I've since learned take everything you see on Twitter with a huge grain of salt.....
I liked this comment in the article, "Players like Brock Osweiler and Sam Bradford are making upwards of $18 million a year; however, Kaepernick, who actually led his team somewhere not too long ago, is going to be nickel and dimed by a team that isnβt exactly in a bargaining position."
Now that there is funny, I don't care who you are.
Sure we're in a bargaining position. The 49ers are going to have to agree to our terms, as well as Kap, or San Fran is either going to have to pay him his $13 million April 1st, or flat out cut him before. Remember, remember a few reports a couple months ago said the 49ers might just release CK rather than pay him his guaranteed money?
Ag, I'd want one good year out of Kap in Cleveland, before I pay him mid-starter money. Or the rest of his contract. Which happens to be fully guaranteed if he gets hurt. I would assume you've read the recent scouting reports, and they plain give me the willies. LOL, sort of like my reluctance on our departed Party Boy.
That's old news. Since this article, Kaepernick has shown that he is unwilling to restructure his contact. I think (and hope) the deal is dead because it makes zero sense for the Browns to make this move.
What really concerns me is this move would contradict everything they've been doing since Sashi Brown took over. Analytics would tell you to stay far away from Kaepernick. So why pursue him? My best guess is he'd be a 'wedding' present to Hue, who is probably banging the drum for the trade because he wanted to draft him when he was Oakland's head coach. And if the HC and FO aren't completely on the same page already, we already know how this ends...
I would hope the analytics are what's holding things up. Could be Sashi and DePo crunched the numbers, and have a figure in mind for what they're willing to pay Kap, and they aren't going to go offering him a crazy Osweiler deal. Just because one team way overpaid doesn't mean the Browns have to.
Hue, what happened at Nevada is ancient history. I'd start by taking a look at his recent injury report, and watch a ton of game film from last year before you get the hots to bring him in. Doesn't seem to be a great teammate, and positive locker room presence either.
I was told this morning by a co worker that Kap is negotiating with us to restructure. "But", he's willing to restructure more for Denver. Soooo he's using us as leverage.
Unfounded source? If so, please keep on leveraging Collin.
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Saying now on Twitter that Kaep's interest in us has waned since Mack and Mitch walked ........
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Saying now on Twitter that Kaep's interest in us has waned since Mack and Mitch walked ........
Saying now on Twitter that Kaep's interest in us has waned since Mack and Mitch walked ........
Well, they'd walked when this all started coming out, so...
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Saying now on Twitter that Kaep's interest in us has waned since Mack and Mitch walked ........
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I'm not all for Kaep. But the people who are saying he got benched for gabbert... he was playing for tomsula. Worst coach I have ever seen.
I'm not all for Kaep. But the people who are saying he got benched for gabbert... he was playing for tomsula. Worst coach I have ever seen.
One was benched on an awful team and the other won MVP..
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One was benched on an awful team and the other won MVP..
LOL. And of course he would not be coming to an awful team.
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