A Growing Suspicion...
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If we do not end up taking one of the two top QBs in this draft, then I think the reason is named Chad Kelly. Just have a feeling he is in the evaluation mix with this class... and I think he compares well.
He is a running QB, which I hate, but looks really at home in the pocket. While he tends to take off under pressure, depending on the escape route he will look to throw on the run.
Arm may be a notch behind either Goff or Wentz, but Kelly has the guts of a burglar... he consistently throws into tighter windows than either 2016 prospect. Yet because many of the throws are on fades and back-shoulders, when only his WR knows they are coming, he still manages to take care of the ball.
Kelly gives up a couple inches... but other than Goff's pocket mastery, if you take the best of Goff and Wentz and mix it together, what you would come up with would look a lot like Kelly.
Add in the fact that we look to be headed for the #1 overall in 2017....
The following is a highlight video, so take it with a grain of salt, but there's a real prospect here.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
He's been a serious jerk in hs and college.
been there, done that. Take Wentz. Character matters.
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He's been a serious jerk in hs and college.
been there, done that. Take Wentz. Character matters.
He's been a serious jerk in hs and college.
been there, done that. Take Wentz. Character matters.
Character works both ways .......one end of the spectrum is Johnny Football.....other end is Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy .... but they all sucked
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We need a qb that won't lead the team in tackles.
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Disqualified for making a rap video about how great he is. The douche chills are mounting.
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Character works both ways .......one end of the spectrum is Johnny Football.....other end is Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy .... but they all sucked. Darren
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and yet, Andrew Luck is of outstanding character, and an excellent qb. You don't really
have any kind of point. Nobody said character was the only criteria. But it IS an important
criteria.
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holy fuck he sounds worse than Johnny football. "I'ma get my ak and spray this place"?....seriously we wanna do this again only this time our QB actually does off his girlfriend. I hope this was a troll tour.
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Plan and simple all the qbs suck in the draft they all have to be developed and set for atleast one or two years fix the rest of the team and a qb will come and we will be able to protect him let McCown and Davis take the beating for now
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If we go D then they will screw this up by winning too many games by supporting McCown's game management. Then we have no QB of the future unless we take Dak in a later round.
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If we go D then they will screw this up by winning too many games by supporting McCown's game management. Then we have no QB of the future unless we take Dak in a later round.
If we go D then they will screw this up by winning too many games by supporting McCown's game management. Then we have no QB of the future unless we take Dak in a later round.
That is why teams will always take the QB. The danger is that you take that defensive player and win just enough with a journeyman QB that you will never be in position to win many games or lose enough to get a franchise QB.
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Any parallel between JM and Chad is tenuous at best.
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No it's not.
But I would be down for this. Swag Kelly!
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Switch for deshaun watson and you might be on to something.
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"As far as QBs go, I can't think of any cocky, self-absorbed QB that ever guided his team to greatness."
LOL! Oh yeah?
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VesnaKociper said:
Browns fans have historically had no problem embracing flamboyant players. Alzado, Golic, Dixon, Minnifield and Matthews come to mind. The caveat here is that these guys loved their team and fans first, and they really played their asses off.
Hoorta has always been one to chastise the loud mouth player, regardless of his skill level. Larry, correct me if I am wrong, but I think you have always felt that the obnoxious narcissist is too much of a distraction and a headache that seldom pans out.
As far as QBs go, I can't think of any cocky, self-absorbed QB that ever guided his team to greatness.
A colorful QB would be okay with me, but this Ole Miss kid, to me, is a jackoff.
Yeah, there's a difference between being cocky, and a flaming jerk off the field. So yes, I do have problems with most of those sorts of players. Now, should we draft Goff or Wentz, we're not going to have that problem. Both seem to be well grounded, humble guys. BTW, if the Browns are following their analytics- that says you MUST draft your QB, if you don't have one, the only exception being if there's a once in a generational player at another position. Bosa is not, sorry. One of the mocks had us taking Jalen Ramsey DB. We take a guy like that, he had better be the second coming of Ronnie Lott.
PS as you probably well know I was totally against Johnny Football. He's the poster boy for what I find disagreeable.
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30 Seconds into the clip.
1st quarter. 3rd and 20.
Runs for 17, and takes a hit to the head.
Looks like Johnny Football to me.
Looks like Johnny Football to me.
Some on-field similarities are undeniable, too eager to bail and run, etc., but the difference I see is that when Kelly throws his game shows "structure".
Off-field... just seems like Kelly has already been to the bottom, saw where he was and has clawed his way back. Anything close to the truth of my take clearly sets him apart from the Little Billy Lost Boy...
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Interesting kid, physical qb skills. Some team will draft him somewhere, and they will
be able to take the chance on the kid. JM probably will give some teams a second worry.
Good for him if he got his act together and is ready to be a solid guy in the NFL.
But the Browns won't take that chance, guaranteed. Unless they bring Ray Farmer the knucklehead back......
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