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Is Mel Kiper a Dumbass?

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  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on
    #40

    Bosa is a 4-3 DE, not a 3-4 OLB.

    If we go front 7, sign me up for Myles Jack

  • C Clevfan4life

    not before you get that O line straightened out young man.

    @tour2ma said:

    Gee, thanks... think we will...

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #41

    @clevfan4life said:

    not before you get that O line straightened out young man.

    Hmmmm....... Even with Thomas, Mack, Schwartz and Greco we were getting our quarterbacks killed. So you want us to wait until we have 5 Pro Bowlers on the OL before we draft the QBOTF?

    Not saying you shouldn't stabilize the OL first, but lesser talent can adequately protect your qbs if he's making quick reads, and unloading the ball fast.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @clevfan4life said:

    not before you get that O line straightened out young man.

    Hmmmm....... Even with Thomas, Mack, Schwartz and Greco we were getting our quarterbacks killed. So you want us to wait until we have 5 Pro Bowlers on the OL before we draft the QBOTF?

    Not saying you shouldn't stabilize the OL first, but lesser talent can adequately protect your qbs if he's making quick reads, and unloading the ball fast.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #42

    @hoorta said:

    Hmmmm....... Even with Thomas, Mack, Schwartz and Greco we were getting our quarterbacks killed. So you want us to wait until we have 5 Pro Bowlers on the OL before we draft the QBOTF?

    Not saying you shouldn't stabilize the OL first, but lesser talent can adequately protect your qbs if he's making quick reads, and unloading the ball fast.

    I really don't care how they do it. Draft, sign...invite some of the cocksuckers from the brownsboard to camp. Whatever.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #43

    but it has to get done to some extent before we bring in a new QB and subject him to NFL pass rush's.

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #44

    Im edging more and more toward a trade down......but would like to see us draft D......Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner or Jack are tops on my list......any of these guys would make me smile....

    Canton DawgC 1 Reply
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  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #45

    This looks like the beginning of having a very young team this season. Looks like it'll be the drafted kids, udfa and all getting lotsa playing time. I can't see many wins this year but we will have a pretty new team to pull for. Maybe P B and J can get a group together that will learn to play as a team, a damn good team. But certainly not this year.

  • B Babernakle wrote on
    #46

    If the qb position is some important then let's just say for shits and giggles the Browns got Brady Wilson bres of Newton would they win any more game would they be better the answer is no not a chance so why would you waste your top picks on qbs that are not that good unproven and behind a line that might as well be a screen door we are rebuilding not looking for the final piece you take the talent not the hope and if your wondering Manziel was hope

  • nickersN nickers wrote on
    #47

    Mel Kiper gets it wrong every year.. How he keeps a job doing what he does is just downright baffeling to Me.. Me must give Chris Berman good head.. He should loan Berman some hair lol...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Im edging more and more toward a trade down......but would like to see us draft D......Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner or Jack are tops on my list......any of these guys would make me smile....

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on
    #48

    @mudfly said:

    Im edging more and more toward a trade down......but would like to see us draft D......Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner or Jack are tops on my list......any of these guys would make me smile....

    I agree Mud, with SO many holes to fill we're not gonna fill them all in one draft.

    Let's face it, the Browns will most likely be picking high in next year's draft as well.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #49

    got to get the QB when we have the pick and he's there............and i'm not talking 22, i'm talking 2.

    i think analytics would say that a HC that is a QB guru needs a QB to work with (below 40 years old and not some 3rd stringer). and the numbers would say get him while you can, cuz who's to say what is there next year.

  • B Babernakle wrote on
    #50

    You don't get a qb for the sak of getting a qb there all third string qbs this year and the analytics say points over replacement what are we closer scoring more points or giving up more points we give up more than we score the defens needs fixed first

    hoortaH 1 Reply
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #51

    how do you know what the analytics say?

    they've been 'fixing' the defense for forever now.

    who would you rather have help pick or draft our next franchise QB a so-called QB guru or our next HC who will prob be a defensive coordinator?

    who's the guru gonna guru?

    this team has sooo many holes saying the defense needs to be fixed first is kinda shortsighted.

  • B Babernakle wrote on
    #52

    Yes the Browns are riddled with holes but the is no franchise qb in this draft there is always the possibility but this year the qb is down and the coaching has be terrible for a long time with exception to Ray Horton how did a hell of a job with his last stint if there were better quality qbs like luck or ever a Carr or bortols I would say hell yes but there is not so pick the best talent with the first two and pick a qb a in three or four maybe pick up cook or jones late the thing about bosa that is so entising is he will make a immediate impact and make Shelton and the rest of the d significantly better both Shelton and bosa will require a double team

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #53

    you say no franchise QBs in this draft and the pundits say the opposite.

    hmmmmmm. who do i believe???

    C 1 Reply
  • stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on
    #54

    Horton is leaps and bounds better than O'Neill was

    LogicIsForSquaresL nickersN 2 Replies
  • stillmotionS stillmotion

    Horton is leaps and bounds better than O'Neill was

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #55

    @stillmotion said:

    Horton is leaps and bounds better than O'Neill was

    A Pringles can is better than O'Neill.

  • stillmotionS stillmotion

    Horton is leaps and bounds better than O'Neill was

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #56

    @stillmotion said:

    Horton is leaps and bounds better than O'Neill was

    And Whore-ton is still a dumbfuck.

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    @stillmotion said:

    Horton is leaps and bounds better than O'Neill was

    And Whore-ton is still a dumbfuck.

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on
    #57

    @nickers said:

    And Whore-ton is still a dumbfuck.

    Horton is a better DC than O'Neil, but that's also like saying Moe was the smartest of the 3 Stooges.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • B Babernakle wrote on
    #58

    The pundits said Couch Quinn McCoy and manziel were great it's time to have an independent thought the qb position is cancer to the Browns instead of letting it come to them they chase the first shiny thing they see and it's another wasted pick

    miktoxicM The GipperT 2 Replies
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    you say no franchise QBs in this draft and the pundits say the opposite.

    hmmmmmm. who do i believe???

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #59

    @miktoxic said:

    you say no franchise QBs in this draft and the pundits say the opposite.

    hmmmmmm. who do i believe???

    I honestly think the NFL feels the draft needs some golden boy QB's so now all of a sudden the pundits say "yeah throw Wentz/Goff in there day 1 they'll be fine". Whereas just two months ago they were like well hang on a minute, would these guys early 1st rounders if there weren't desperate teams? Like the Browns.

    So now these kids go get coached up and go on Grudens corner and give him a nice long blowjob and wham...Gruden thinks they're NFL ready. Based on their tape from last year I'm still not seeing QB's we need to look at with the #2 pick. I'd rather us start to look at QB's once we have some semblance of an idea of what our O line is gonna look like. Cause right now it looks like we'll be one of the worst O lines in football for a few years. And you wanna bring in a high pick QB and put him behind that? Wasted pick then.

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