Is Mel Kiper a Dumbass?
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i don't care how much of their resources and how many picks this draft they devote to finding a franchise QB as long as they gain on it and get him in the end. pass rushers are in every draft and can be had at pick 15 and after...QB trumps all luxury positions.
I could not agree more & we more than likely will be picking in the top 15 a couple of years. Solidifying a QB first, leads to other key weapons in upcoming drafts. If Goff or Wentz can just equal a Bortles, that's elite enough. Let's move on & build around it..
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I could not agree more & we more than likely will be picking in the top 15 a couple of years. Solidifying a QB first, leads to other key weapons in upcoming drafts. If Goff or Wentz can just equal a Bortles, that's elite enough. Let's move on & build around it..
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That's what they said when they took Tim Couch. "If you build it with a QB, they will come". Well, they came a bit....but not nearly enough.
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I thought they got their man in Osweiler? Are you not buying it?
They got themselves a QB, time will tell if he's a franchise QB.
They got themselves a QB, time will tell if he's a franchise QB.
Scott Mitchell part two?
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I would rather have Kiper drafting for the Browns than Ray Farmer.
I would rather have Stevie Wonder drafting for the Browns over Ray Farmer ...neve rmind Kiper
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In the comments section it is obvious they think we are worse now, but you can't put a red down arrow on a team starting in the 32nd spot. We have a very spiritual team.
The highest degree in Freemasonry is the Third Degree (Master Mason). The 32nd Degree is part of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, which is a sub-group within Freemasonry.
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In the comments section it is obvious they think we are worse now, but you can't put a red down arrow on a team starting in the 32nd spot. We have a very spiritual team.
The highest degree in Freemasonry is the Third Degree (Master Mason). The 32nd Degree is part of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, which is a sub-group within Freemasonry.
In the comments section it is obvious they think we are worse now, but you can't put a red down arrow on a team starting in the 32nd spot. We have a very spiritual team.
The highest degree in Freemasonry is the Third Degree (Master Mason). The 32nd Degree is part of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, which is a sub-group within Freemasonry.
Sure, I think there will be a lot of good karma coming the Browns way.
Preach a little Hindu, a little Taoism...
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Bosa is a 4-3 DE, not a 3-4 OLB.
If we go front 7, sign me up for Myles Jack
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not before you get that O line straightened out young man.
Hmmmm....... Even with Thomas, Mack, Schwartz and Greco we were getting our quarterbacks killed. So you want us to wait until we have 5 Pro Bowlers on the OL before we draft the QBOTF?
Not saying you shouldn't stabilize the OL first, but lesser talent can adequately protect your qbs if he's making quick reads, and unloading the ball fast.
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not before you get that O line straightened out young man.
Hmmmm....... Even with Thomas, Mack, Schwartz and Greco we were getting our quarterbacks killed. So you want us to wait until we have 5 Pro Bowlers on the OL before we draft the QBOTF?
Not saying you shouldn't stabilize the OL first, but lesser talent can adequately protect your qbs if he's making quick reads, and unloading the ball fast.
Hmmmm....... Even with Thomas, Mack, Schwartz and Greco we were getting our quarterbacks killed. So you want us to wait until we have 5 Pro Bowlers on the OL before we draft the QBOTF?
Not saying you shouldn't stabilize the OL first, but lesser talent can adequately protect your qbs if he's making quick reads, and unloading the ball fast.
I really don't care how they do it. Draft, sign...invite some of the cocksuckers from the brownsboard to camp. Whatever.
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but it has to get done to some extent before we bring in a new QB and subject him to NFL pass rush's.
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This looks like the beginning of having a very young team this season. Looks like it'll be the drafted kids, udfa and all getting lotsa playing time. I can't see many wins this year but we will have a pretty new team to pull for. Maybe P B and J can get a group together that will learn to play as a team, a damn good team. But certainly not this year.
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If the qb position is some important then let's just say for shits and giggles the Browns got Brady Wilson bres of Newton would they win any more game would they be better the answer is no not a chance so why would you waste your top picks on qbs that are not that good unproven and behind a line that might as well be a screen door we are rebuilding not looking for the final piece you take the talent not the hope and if your wondering Manziel was hope
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Im edging more and more toward a trade down......but would like to see us draft D......Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner or Jack are tops on my list......any of these guys would make me smile....
I agree Mud, with SO many holes to fill we're not gonna fill them all in one draft.Im edging more and more toward a trade down......but would like to see us draft D......Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner or Jack are tops on my list......any of these guys would make me smile....
Let's face it, the Browns will most likely be picking high in next year's draft as well.
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got to get the QB when we have the pick and he's there............and i'm not talking 22, i'm talking 2.
i think analytics would say that a HC that is a QB guru needs a QB to work with (below 40 years old and not some 3rd stringer). and the numbers would say get him while you can, cuz who's to say what is there next year.
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You don't get a qb for the sak of getting a qb there all third string qbs this year and the analytics say points over replacement what are we closer scoring more points or giving up more points we give up more than we score the defens needs fixed first
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how do you know what the analytics say?
they've been 'fixing' the defense for forever now.
who would you rather have help pick or draft our next franchise QB a so-called QB guru or our next HC who will prob be a defensive coordinator?
who's the guru gonna guru?
this team has sooo many holes saying the defense needs to be fixed first is kinda shortsighted.
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Yes the Browns are riddled with holes but the is no franchise qb in this draft there is always the possibility but this year the qb is down and the coaching has be terrible for a long time with exception to Ray Horton how did a hell of a job with his last stint if there were better quality qbs like luck or ever a Carr or bortols I would say hell yes but there is not so pick the best talent with the first two and pick a qb a in three or four maybe pick up cook or jones late the thing about bosa that is so entising is he will make a immediate impact and make Shelton and the rest of the d significantly better both Shelton and bosa will require a double team
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you say no franchise QBs in this draft and the pundits say the opposite.
hmmmmmm. who do i believe???
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Horton is leaps and bounds better than O'Neill was
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