RG3 Signs with the Browns
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It's not about being scared it's about the talent that's there, or not there. Wentz was the QB at North Dakota State and Goff was an underwhelming 14-23 at Cal.
That's not looking deep enough. Flacco (who Wentz is being compared to) went to Delaware State, remember? Goff had near zero supporting cast at Cal. Sure they're a risk-
In the last 30 years there have probably have only been 3-5 QBs who weren't considered a risk, Andrew Luck being the last. FWIW, I was totally against Holmgren's sell the ranch to get RG III- I was right. If we take Goff or Wentz and they flop, we're only out 1 first round pick, not three. I'll go on record I like what I see out of the Goff Wentz duo. BTW, Hue went to both pro days, and liked what he saw.
That's not looking deep enough. Flacco (who Wentz is being compared to) went to Delaware State, remember? Goff had near zero supporting cast at Cal. Sure they're a risk-
In the last 30 years there have probably have only been 3-5 QBs who weren't considered a risk, Andrew Luck being the last. FWIW, I was totally against Holmgren's sell the ranch to get RG III- I was right. If we take Goff or Wentz and they flop, we're only out 1 first round pick, not three. I'll go on record I like what I see out of the Goff Wentz duo. BTW, Hue went to both pro days, and liked what he saw.
Flacco was lucky to step into a quality organization with talent already established. Again we are talking about the Browns. Who is the #1 WR on this team? The guy who sat out the year or the other guy.
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"3 seconds on the clock. Griffin under center. The snap this is it folks. He drops back no one open...he scrambles to the left he's got Gordon deep. The throw!
Touchdown !!! The browns advance to the playoffs"!
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I am excited to see what a healthy Griffin can do with a HC and coaching staff that believes in him. Griffin's greatest downfall in Washington was the fact that the front office hired a HC that wasn't committed to him.
From what I've seen watching literally every snap of Griffin's career, he remains one of the most talented QB I've every seen.
He has exceptional arm talent that can throw to all levels of the field with a flick of the wrist, he has a quick release, he's accurate. He's a good ball handler, excellent throwing on the run and can adlib to throw downfield.
However he's still learning how to execute a rhythm drop back west coast passing offense. He came from a spread-zone read offense at Baylor and as a rookie played in a Pistol read-option offense. It wasn't until his 3rd season with Jay Gruden did he play in an exclusively west coast passing offense and he was only given 5 games before being benched, only 2 which were actually bad.
When Griffin understands the play concept and where to go with the ball he's not just good he's incredible.
Some of his flaws. When he's unsure/doesn't trust what he sees he holds the ball and looks uncomfortable in the pocket and takes sacks. Surprisingly despite all Griffin's athleticism he has little to no "juke" to his running style you rarely seem him even attempt to make a defender miss. He's a straight line runner that needs to improve at avoiding contact.
I think right now, if Griffin were to be plugged into an offense like the Bills he could put up equal to if not better numbers then Tyrod Taylor. Or if inserted into an offense like the Chiefs he could put up similar numbers to Alex Smith and quickly surpass his level production.
Another Griffin fag.
Another Griffin fag.
Better than the pussy Manziel knobslobbers.
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Another Griffin fag.
Better than the pussy Manziel knobslobbers.
Better than the pussy Manziel knobslobbers.
Pot meet kettle.
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Better than the pussy Manziel knobslobbers.
Pot meet kettle.
Pot meet kettle.
The difference is one experienced NFL success...the other had a hard time finding the stadium on game days.
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Pot meet kettle.
The difference is one experienced NFL success...the other had a hard time finding the stadium on game days.
The difference is one experienced NFL success...the other had a hard time finding the stadium on game days.
Bullshit. His teammates let him down.......
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The difference is one experienced NFL success...the other had a hard time finding the stadium on game days.
Bullshit. His teammates let him down.......
Bullshit. His teammates let him down.......
I can't even
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The difference is one experienced NFL success...the other had a hard time finding the stadium on game days.
Bullshit. His teammates let him down.......
Bullshit. His teammates let him down.......
Because they weren't with him in Vegas, doing lines of some dude's dick?
What a let down.
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That's not looking deep enough. Flacco (who Wentz is being compared to) went to Delaware State, remember? Goff had near zero supporting cast at Cal. Sure they're a risk-
In the last 30 years there have probably have only been 3-5 QBs who weren't considered a risk, Andrew Luck being the last. FWIW, I was totally against Holmgren's sell the ranch to get RG III- I was right. If we take Goff or Wentz and they flop, we're only out 1 first round pick, not three. I'll go on record I like what I see out of the Goff Wentz duo. BTW, Hue went to both pro days, and liked what he saw.
Flacco was lucky to step into a quality organization with talent already established. Again we are talking about the Browns. Who is the #1 WR on this team? The guy who sat out the year or the other guy.
Flacco was lucky to step into a quality organization with talent already established. Again we are talking about the Browns. Who is the #1 WR on this team? The guy who sat out the year or the other guy.
I mean seriously- the best quarterbacks in the draft almost always go to talent depleted teams. Like the Tampa, the Jags and Titans were loaded when they took their franchise qbs? Only luck out was Rodgers who fell far enough to sit behind Farve. Andrew Luck was a fluke too, as you could almost say the Colts tanked.
It could be why we picked up Griffin, so whoever we draft @ #2- and I'm damn near certain it's going to be Wentz or Goff- gets to sit for at least 1\2 the season.
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Flacco was lucky to step into a quality organization with talent already established. Again we are talking about the Browns. Who is the #1 WR on this team? The guy who sat out the year or the other guy.
I mean seriously- the best quarterbacks in the draft almost always go to talent depleted teams. Like the Tampa, the Jags and Titans were loaded when they took their franchise qbs? Only luck out was Rodgers who fell far enough to sit behind Farve. Andrew Luck was a fluke too, as you could almost say the Colts tanked.
It could be why we picked up Griffin, so whoever we draft @ #2- and I'm damn near certain it's going to be Wentz or Goff- gets to sit for at least 1\2 the season.
Great point. If I may inflect...I mean seriously- the best quarterbacks in the draft almost always go to talent depleted teams. Like the Tampa, the Jags and Titans were loaded when they took their franchise qbs? Only luck out was Rodgers who fell far enough to sit behind Farve. Andrew Luck was a fluke too, as you could almost say the Colts tanked.
It could be why we picked up Griffin, so whoever we draft @ #2- and I'm damn near certain it's going to be Wentz or Goff- gets to sit for at least 1\2 the season.
Many Super Bowl QB's weren't with the team that drafted them. I haven't looked it up but I'd bet more QB's that have played for more than one team outnumber the QB's that have been with the team that drafted them.
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1) I would take RG3 over Kap
βMe too.β
2) We didn't pay him much. We are swimming in cap
βAgreed.β
3) unless we're sure Wentz/Goff is a franchise QB, I'm fine taking the best available, elite player. Build the team then plug in the QB. Going the other way is what we've done for years. We'll just break the QB. No one us is expecting great things. Let RG3 and maybe a later QB run the show. If one does well, you got your guy. If not, at least you have a young superstar.
βNo way to tell if Goff or Wentz are the answer. And who is the young Superstar?
Sure as hell isn't RG3.β
WSS
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The difference is one experienced NFL success...the other had a hard time finding the stadium on game days.
Bullshit. His teammates let him down.......
Bullshit. His teammates let him down.......
He's just trolling
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Signing RG3 is their way of getting out of drafting a QB at 2. This really opens the door for Cardale or Cook.
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He does have the buzz. Still he wouldn't be the first guaranteed hands down bonafide 100% lock offensive lineman that has busted.Someone like Tunsil, Ramsey, etc
A universally regarded stud.
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Signing RG3 is their way of getting out of drafting a QB at 2. This really opens the door for Cardale or Cook.
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I was watching ESPN and the talking heads were saying the Browns will still draft a qb #2. Goff or Wentz.
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I was watching ESPN and the talking heads were saying the Browns will still draft a qb #2. Goff or Wentz.
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He does have the buzz. Still he wouldn't be the first guaranteed hands down bonafide 100% lock offensive lineman that has busted.Someone like Tunsil, Ramsey, etc
A universally regarded stud.
WSS
He does have the buzz. Still he wouldn't be the first guaranteed hands down bonafide 100% lock offensive lineman that has busted.
WSS
They bust at a lower rate than QBs
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
He does have the buzz. Still he wouldn't be the first guaranteed hands down bonafide 100% lock offensive lineman that has busted.
WSS
They bust at a lower rate than QBs
They certainly do. But fans are stupid and expect a high quarterback pick to single-handedly turn the team around.They bust at a lower rate than QBs
Also number one pick in the draft is almost always way way too high to take O line.
Like drafting a punter at number 1. He'd better be on his way to the Hall of Fame.
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