RG3 Signs with the Browns
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He does have the buzz. Still he wouldn't be the first guaranteed hands down bonafide 100% lock offensive lineman that has busted.
WSS
They bust at a lower rate than QBs
They bust at a lower rate than QBs
And there's also a much higher rate of mid round linemen finding sustained success in the NFL than there is mid-round QB's.
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Flacco was lucky to step into a quality organization with talent already established. Again we are talking about the Browns. Who is the #1 WR on this team? The guy who sat out the year or the other guy.
I mean seriously- the best quarterbacks in the draft almost always go to talent depleted teams. Like the Tampa, the Jags and Titans were loaded when they took their franchise qbs? Only luck out was Rodgers who fell far enough to sit behind Farve. Andrew Luck was a fluke too, as you could almost say the Colts tanked.
It could be why we picked up Griffin, so whoever we draft @ #2- and I'm damn near certain it's going to be Wentz or Goff- gets to sit for at least 1\2 the season.
I mean seriously- the best quarterbacks in the draft almost always go to talent depleted teams. Like the Tampa, the Jags and Titans were loaded when they took their franchise qbs? Only luck out was Rodgers who fell far enough to sit behind Farve. Andrew Luck was a fluke too, as you could almost say the Colts tanked.
It could be why we picked up Griffin, so whoever we draft @ #2- and I'm damn near certain it's going to be Wentz or Goff- gets to sit for at least 1\2 the season.
Eli Manning, Russell Wilson, Big Ben were all the best QB in their draft class who went to good teams. Maybe down for the year but solid teams that won immediately.
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listen. we can't get every draft pick we need to make this team instantly better. but if you want to draft a QB that could be the guy it's this year @#2.
don't like rg3 but now that he's a brown i will support him and hope he plays lights out and he starts for us until the HC and FO thinks it's time to send him elsewhere.........if that ever happens.
best 2 QB prospects in years and no one is chirping up next year's class so do it now. do it right now.
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Signing RG3 is their way of getting out of drafting a QB at 2. This really opens the door for Cardale or Cook.
If they signed RGIII to a 5 year $50 mill contract, I would say they wouldn't be drafting a QB @ #2.Signing RG3 is their way of getting out of drafting a QB at 2. This really opens the door for Cardale or Cook.
Instead, he signed an incentive laden 2 year contract which tells me they will be taking a QB @ #2.
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If they signed RGIII to a 5 year $50 mill contract, I would say they wouldn't be drafting a QB @ #2.Signing RG3 is their way of getting out of drafting a QB at 2. This really opens the door for Cardale or Cook.
Instead, he signed an incentive laden 2 year contract which tells me they will be taking a QB @ #2.
He signed a deal that could pay him 16 mill a year. No matter how long, thats a commitment, albeit minor. If you draft a QB at 2, theyre expected to be starting by the end of year 1. If they buy some time with RG3 and draft a QB in the 3rd, they can sit and develop him behind RG3 and McCown with no pressure to play him immediately. You dont spend that kind of money if youre drafting your starter at 2 imo.If they signed RGIII to a 5 year $50 mill contract, I would say they wouldn't be drafting a QB @ #2.
Instead, he signed an incentive laden 2 year contract which tells me they will be taking a QB @ #2.
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We replaced McCown with Grif.
That's it.
Bought another year with a guy 11 years younger with a better pedigree and better stats.
He's on a two year contract, he cost us nothing and we still have the second pick in the draft and Hue Jackson was pasted to Carson Wentz at his Pro Day.
WHAT IS THE ISSUE?
Z
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The Browns will still draft their qb at 2. He won't have to be thrown into the fire,
and when ...Wentz is ready, he'll take over.
If RGIII gets hurt for the rest of the season, say, halfway through......
you have to have you future of the frachise qb on board.
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Zombo's PhotoZombo
Yesterday, 11:20 PM
We replaced McCown with Grif. Griffin Goff...
quote name="calfoxwc" post="591076" timestamp="1459057906"]
The Browns will still draft their qb at 2. He won't have to be thrown into the fire,
and when ...Wentz is ready.
Wishful thinking.
WSS
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He signed a deal that could pay him 16 mill a year. No matter how long, thats a commitment, albeit minor. If you draft a QB at 2, theyre expected to be starting by the end of year 1. If they buy some time with RG3 and draft a QB in the 3rd, they can sit and develop him behind RG3 and McCown with no pressure to play him immediately. You dont spend that kind of money if youre drafting your starter at 2 imo.If they signed RGIII to a 5 year $50 mill contract, I would say they wouldn't be drafting a QB @ #2.
Instead, he signed an incentive laden 2 year contract which tells me they will be taking a QB @ #2.
He signed a deal that could pay him 16 mill a year. No matter how long, thats a commitment, albeit minor. If you draft a QB at 2, theyre expected to be starting by the end of year 1. If they buy some time with RG3 and draft a QB in the 3rd, they can sit and develop him behind RG3 and McCown with no pressure to play him immediately. You dont spend that kind of money if youre drafting your starter at 2 imo.
Houston paid over 30 million guaranteed money more than the Browns this year this year for an unproven QB. If RG hits all his incentives, he still gets way less. 3.25 mil guaranteed this year and the Browns can opt out after 1 year. And if he hits the incentives, what then? That seems like it translates to wins. I like that thought. Plus they most likely pick a QB at 2 because RG3 is DIRTFUCKINGCHEAP!
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He signed a deal that could pay him 16 mill a year. No matter how long, thats a commitment, albeit minor. If you draft a QB at 2, theyre expected to be starting by the end of year 1. If they buy some time with RG3 and draft a QB in the 3rd, they can sit and develop him behind RG3 and McCown with no pressure to play him immediately. You dont spend that kind of money if youre drafting your starter at 2 imo.
Houston paid over 30 million guaranteed money more than the Browns this year this year for an unproven QB. If RG hits all his incentives, he still gets way less. 3.25 mil guaranteed this year and the Browns can opt out after 1 year. And if he hits the incentives, what then? That seems like it translates to wins. I like that thought. Plus they most likely pick a QB at 2 because RG3 is DIRTFUCKINGCHEAP!
Houston paid over 30 million guaranteed money more than the Browns this year this year for an unproven QB. If RG hits all his incentives, he still gets way less. 3.25 mil guaranteed this year and the Browns can opt out after 1 year. And if he hits the incentives, what then? That seems like it translates to wins. I like that thought. Plus they most likely pick a QB at 2 because RG3 is DIRTFUCKINGCHEAP!
I don't see the problem with allowing our coach and his QB coach to take whomever they believe in. It's their career not mine and it is different from all the other "strategies" that have led to this same #2 pick overall via 2nd worst team in the NFL. So what the hell, I'll be happy no matter who they pick. Besides 5 years from now when the whole plan plays out I'll only be 74. My youngest grandparent to die was 86 and the oldest 98 with an average of 92. I figure on at least a couple of more decades I can patiently wait for the Browns to be good again. Oh wait, they've been back since '99!!??
Canton Mike you have to hang in there with me buddie.
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Houston paid over 30 million guaranteed money more than the Browns this year this year for an unproven QB. If RG hits all his incentives, he still gets way less. 3.25 mil guaranteed this year and the Browns can opt out after 1 year. And if he hits the incentives, what then? That seems like it translates to wins. I like that thought. Plus they most likely pick a QB at 2 because RG3 is DIRTFUCKINGCHEAP!
I don't see the problem with allowing our coach and his QB coach to take whomever they believe in. It's their career not mine and it is different from all the other "strategies" that have led to this same #2 pick overall via 2nd worst team in the NFL. So what the hell, I'll be happy no matter who they pick. Besides 5 years from now when the whole plan plays out I'll only be 74. My youngest grandparent to die was 86 and the oldest 98 with an average of 92. I figure on at least a couple of more decades I can patiently wait for the Browns to be good again. Oh wait, they've been back since '99!!??
Canton Mike you have to hang in there with me buddie.
I don't see the problem with allowing our coach and his QB coach to take whomever they believe in. It's their career not mine and it is different from all the other "strategies" that have led to this same #2 pick overall via 2nd worst team in the NFL. So what the hell, I'll be happy no matter who they pick. Besides 5 years from now when the whole plan plays out I'll only be 74. My youngest grandparent to die was 86 and the oldest 98 with an average of 92. I figure on at least a couple of more decades I can patiently wait for the Browns to be good again. Oh wait, they've been back since '99!!??
Canton Mike you have to hang in there with me buddie.
I'm with ya Bill...Neither of us is croakin' before our Brownies win at least ONE Super Bowl!!!
Mike
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Signing RG3 is their way of getting out of drafting a QB at 2. This really opens the door for Cardale or Cook.
This really opens the door for Cardale or Cook.
threw up in my mouth after reading this. proves you know jack. jack shit that is.
please stay at flyin J pumping gas (or whatever you like to pump) and away from the brown's FO.
oh btw....
HAPPY EASTER! RIGHT UP UR KEISTER!
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Working for Pilot is a respectable job. It takes honesty and integrity. I had a cashier that felt really bad about her job until I had a talk with her. A diesel dummy came in yelling and was calling her stupid and everything else.threw up in my mouth after reading this. proves you know jack. jack shit that is.
please stay at flyin J pumping gas (or whatever you like to pump) and away from the brown's FO.
oh btw....
HAPPY EASTER! RIGHT UP UR KEISTER!
I told her that people like that driver that come in are bold enough to cut you down with no remorse is degrading. Even more so not giving second thought in doing so. So, just remember its people like that can't do your job because they don't have self respect. The ones we do hire that don't have self respect steal and don't work very well with others. I told her she was doing great and now she's a GM.
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He signed a deal that could pay him 16 mill a year. No matter how long, thats a commitment, albeit minor. If you draft a QB at 2, theyre expected to be starting by the end of year 1. If they buy some time with RG3 and draft a QB in the 3rd, they can sit and develop him behind RG3 and McCown with no pressure to play him immediately. You dont spend that kind of money if youre drafting your starter at 2 imo.
Houston paid over 30 million guaranteed money more than the Browns this year this year for an unproven QB. If RG hits all his incentives, he still gets way less. 3.25 mil guaranteed this year and the Browns can opt out after 1 year. And if he hits the incentives, what then? That seems like it translates to wins. I like that thought. Plus they most likely pick a QB at 2 because RG3 is DIRTFUCKINGCHEAP!
Houston paid over 30 million guaranteed money more than the Browns this year this year for an unproven QB. If RG hits all his incentives, he still gets way less. 3.25 mil guaranteed this year and the Browns can opt out after 1 year. And if he hits the incentives, what then? That seems like it translates to wins. I like that thought. Plus they most likely pick a QB at 2 because RG3 is DIRTFUCKINGCHEAP!
Absolutely! Do you know why they had to? Because the Brian Hoyer they were willing to pay way more than Cleveland never became the solution they hoped he'd be. It seemed like half their wins came when he was injured with somebody like Yates filling in.
Houston also beat everyone to Ryan Mallett and how did that work? All that after they were the only NFL team brilliant enough to have Tom Savage on the roster allegedly. What's next? Hackenberg? That would make for an interesting head line - The AFC South just got Hacked.
Houston is a reminder of what not to do at the QB position.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Working for Pilot is a respectable job. It takes honesty and integrity. I had a cashier that felt really bad about her job until I had a talk with her. A diesel dummy came in yelling and was calling her stupid and everything else.threw up in my mouth after reading this. proves you know jack. jack shit that is.
please stay at flyin J pumping gas (or whatever you like to pump) and away from the brown's FO.
oh btw....
HAPPY EASTER! RIGHT UP UR KEISTER!
I told her that people like that driver that come in are bold enough to cut you down with no remorse is degrading. Even more so not giving second thought in doing so. So, just remember its people like that can't do your job because they don't have self respect. The ones we do hire that don't have self respect steal and don't work very well with others. I told her she was doing great and now she's a GM.
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Working for Pilot is a respectable job. It takes honesty and integrity. I had a cashier that felt really bad about her job until I had a talk with her. A diesel dummy came in yelling and was calling her stupid and everything else.
I told her that people like that driver that come in are bold enough to cut you down with no remorse is degrading. Even more so not giving second thought in doing so. So, just remember its people like that can't do your job because they don't have self respect. The ones we do hire that don't have self respect steal and don't work very well with others. I told her she was doing great and now she's a GM.
uh, it wasn't meant to degrade people and their jobs no matter what they are. it was meant to get under the skin of the person who posted the thought of cardale jones or conner cook behind center in a browns uni. just cuz it's easter doesn't mean u still can't bust balls.
i didn't know fast food employees, people that work at kmart, service station personnel..........that whole realm of menial work now needed a public defender. those people are getting a huge pay raise here in NY (and now cali i believe) and will cost small bizs to close and other retail and service co's to raise their prices/rates. so it's no longer 'those' people. and don't defend them as if i was attacking a bunch of Retards.
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One Post From the Truth said:
Working for Pilot is a respectable job. It takes honesty and integrity. I had a cashier that felt really bad about her job until I had a talk with her. A diesel dummy came in yelling and was calling her stupid and everything else.
I told her that people like that driver that come in are bold enough to cut you down with no remorse is degrading. Even more so not giving second thought in doing so. So, just remember its people like that can't do your job because they don't have self respect. The ones we do hire that don't have self respect steal and don't work very well with others. I told her she was doing great and now she's a GM.
uh, it wasn't meant to degrade people and their jobs no matter what they are. it was meant to get under the skin of the person who posted the thought of cardale jones or conner cook behind center in a browns uni. just cuz it's easter doesn't mean u still can't bust balls.
i didn't know fast food employees, people that work at kmart, service station personnel..........that whole realm of menial work now needed a public defender. those people are getting a huge pay raise here in NY (and now cali i believe) and will cost small bizs to close and other retail and service co's to raise their prices/rates. so it's no longer 'those' people. and don't defend them as if i was attacking a bunch of Retards.
uh, it wasn't meant to degrade people and their jobs no matter what they are. it was meant to get under the skin of the person who posted the thought of cardale jones or conner cook behind center in a browns uni. just cuz it's easter doesn't mean u still can't bust balls.
i didn't know fast food employees, people that work at kmart, service station personnel..........that whole realm of menial work now needed a public defender. those people are getting a huge pay raise here in NY (and now cali i believe) and will cost small bizs to close and other retail and service co's to raise their prices/rates. so it's no longer 'those' people. and don't defend them as if i was attacking a bunch of Retards.
You bastard! Get your ass to church and don't come back here until you're ready to behave.
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Awww youre so sweet!threw up in my mouth after reading this. proves you know jack. jack shit that is.
please stay at flyin J pumping gas (or whatever you like to pump) and away from the brown's FO.
oh btw....
HAPPY EASTER! RIGHT UP UR KEISTER!
btw... I didnt say I liked or wanted those guys. I want Wentz.
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He signed a deal that could pay him 16 mill a year. No matter how long, thats a commitment, albeit minor. If you draft a QB at 2, theyre expected to be starting by the end of year 1. If they buy some time with RG3 and draft a QB in the 3rd, they can sit and develop him behind RG3 and McCown with no pressure to play him immediately. You dont spend that kind of money if youre drafting your starter at 2 imo.If they signed RGIII to a 5 year $50 mill contract, I would say they wouldn't be drafting a QB @ #2.
Instead, he signed an incentive laden 2 year contract which tells me they will be taking a QB @ #2.
He signed a deal that could pay him 16 mill a year. No matter how long, thats a commitment, albeit minor. If you draft a QB at 2, theyre expected to be starting by the end of year 1. If they buy some time with RG3 and draft a QB in the 3rd, they can sit and develop him behind RG3 and McCown with no pressure to play him immediately. You dont spend that kind of money if youre drafting your starter at 2 imo.
The contract that RGIII signed is more indicative of Cleveland taking a QB at #2. That's not only my opinion, but that of a couple of NFL GM's as well.
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Zombo's PhotoZombo
Yesterday, 11:20 PM
We replaced McCown with Grif. Griffin Goff...
quote name="calfoxwc" post="591076" timestamp="1459057906"]
The Browns will still draft their qb at 2. He won't have to be thrown into the fire,
and when ...Wentz is ready.
Wishful thinking.
WSS
Zombo's PhotoZombo
Yesterday, 11:20 PM
We replaced McCown with Grif. Griffin Goff...
quote name="calfoxwc" post="591076" timestamp="1459057906"]
The Browns will still draft their qb at 2. He won't have to be thrown into the fire,
and when ...Wentz is ready.
Wishful thinking.
WSS
I surmise you think we are going to pass on the stud QBs in the draft because we signed Griff to a 2-year contract.
I don't see that. At all. In fact the Browns still say they are looking at the rookies, Griffin has said out loud that he understands they are probably bringing in a rookie and, after giving the A-OK on Grif, Hue Jack was the only HC at Wentz's workout and was all over his every move.
So I don't know why anyone thinks signing this guy means no Goff or Wentz.
We just upgraded the placeholder.
Besides, I thought you had a thing for self-centered, mobile, Heisman Trophy winning QBs from Texas?
Zombo
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Zombo's PhotoZombo
Yesterday, 11:20 PM
We replaced McCown with Grif. Griffin Goff...
quote name="calfoxwc" post="591076" timestamp="1459057906"]
The Browns will still draft their qb at 2. He won't have to be thrown into the fire,
and when ...Wentz is ready.
Wishful thinking.
WSS
Zombo's PhotoZombo
Yesterday, 11:20 PM
We replaced McCown with Grif. Griffin Goff...
quote name="calfoxwc" post="591076" timestamp="1459057906"]
The Browns will still draft their qb at 2. He won't have to be thrown into the fire,
and when ...Wentz is ready.
Wishful thinking.
WSS
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