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  • http://www.msnbc.com/kate-snow/watch/trump-some-form-of-punishment-for-abortion-655208515561

    Donald backtracks with his statement today.

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion

    This has been the biggest misstep of Trump's campaign. I really hope this doesn't kill his chances. He's too much fun to support. Then again, they're still going to be talking about him for the rest of the news cycle.

    @vaportrail said:

    http://www.msnbc.com/kate-snow/watch/trump-some-form-of-punishment-for-abortion-655208515561

    Donald backtracks with his statement today.

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion

    This has been the biggest misstep of Trump's campaign. I really hope this doesn't kill his chances. He's too much fun to support. Then again, they're still going to be talking about him for the rest of the news cycle.

    It won't Wisconsin sucks anyway. It's all about ny and Cali from here.
  • I don't see this as such a big deal. I believe most Americans are okay with abortion in the first 2 trimesters. Sorry for you hardcore Christian guys but that's the fact. So if most Americans feel it should be illegal in the third trimester except in certain situations that begs the question what should be the penalty for performing or purchasing one?

    You should have that question and answer in the can and ready to go and in this case any candidate will need to waffle.

    There really aren't many voters on the fringes. No abortion for any reason vs anytime for any reason.

    If there are restrictions been there have to be consequences for violating those restrictions. Simple as that.

    I assume Cal, Cysko and Old are farther to the right. So how would you guys punish a woman who gets an abortion? Life in prison? The chair?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I don't see this as such a big deal. I believe most Americans are okay with abortion in the first 2 trimesters. Sorry for you hardcore Christian guys but that's the fact. So if most Americans feel it should be illegal in the third trimester except in certain situations that begs the question what should be the penalty for performing or purchasing one?

    You should have that question and answer in the can and ready to go and in this case any candidate will need to waffle.

    There really aren't many voters on the fringes. No abortion for any reason vs anytime for any reason.

    If there are restrictions been there have to be consequences for violating those restrictions. Simple as that.

    I assume Cal, Cysko and Old are farther to the right. So how would you guys punish a woman who gets an abortion? Life in prison? The chair?

    WSS

    I've been on the pro life side always so I know all the arguments and trap questions and hypotheticals the left wing uses like the Pharisees in Jesus' time to get republican candidates to say something extreme (gotcha questions). Todd Aiken comes to mind and there have been many others. Nobody on the pro life side wants to see mothers charged criminally for having an abortion we are only focused on trying to save the lives of babies. Trump didn't know that and so he got nailed not only by the pro choice people but also many pro life people were criticizing Trump saying that is not our position. Liberal Chris Matthews will press the issue like a prosecutor and I have seen him do it before with trap questions like getting someone to say they believe abortion is murder than going after them on criminal penalties for mothers and if pro life people think it is murder why aren't we wanting criminal penalties? My answer is make the penalties for the abortion doctors. The short answer is Matthews deliberately set Trump up with the hypothetical and I would say it is political suicide for any politician to have a position of criminal penalties for mothers having abortions. Trump better get used to these kinds of questions and I simply would advise him not to answer the many hypotheticals the left will ask him on abortion to trap him into saying something that will be used against him.

    I would bet this fall you will see ads by the Clinton campaign with Trump saying mothers having abortions should have criminal charges (conveniently leaving out he reversed that position within hours).

  • I don't see this as such a big deal. I believe most Americans are okay with abortion in the first 2 trimesters. Sorry for you hardcore Christian guys but that's the fact. So if most Americans feel it should be illegal in the third trimester except in certain situations that begs the question what should be the penalty for performing or purchasing one?

    You should have that question and answer in the can and ready to go and in this case any candidate will need to waffle.

    There really aren't many voters on the fringes. No abortion for any reason vs anytime for any reason.

    If there are restrictions been there have to be consequences for violating those restrictions. Simple as that.

    I assume Cal, Cysko and Old are farther to the right. So how would you guys punish a woman who gets an abortion? Life in prison? The chair?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I don't see this as such a big deal. I believe most Americans are okay with abortion in the first 2 trimesters. Sorry for you hardcore Christian guys but that's the fact. So if most Americans feel it should be illegal in the third trimester except in certain situations that begs the question what should be the penalty for performing or purchasing one?

    You should have that question and answer in the can and ready to go and in this case any candidate will need to waffle.

    There really aren't many voters on the fringes. No abortion for any reason vs anytime for any reason.

    If there are restrictions been there have to be consequences for violating those restrictions. Simple as that.

    I assume Cal, Cysko and Old are farther to the right. So how would you guys punish a woman who gets an abortion? Life in prison? The chair?

    WSS

    Well at least you can tell he's republican now.
  • @calfoxwc said:

    One amazing thing about Trump, though...

    he's making Cruz look better all the time, and Cruz

    is leading polls dramatically in Wisconsin.

    This is exactly why I wanted Trump to win Ohio. Now I've got to entertain the idea that the only thing between a religious zealot and the Oval Office might be Hillary Clinton.

    @vaportrail said:

    This is exactly why I wanted Trump to win Ohio. Now I've got to entertain the idea that the only thing between a religious zealot and the Oval Office might be Hillary Clinton.

    Cruz doesn't have a path to the nomination.

    Wisconsin is a Retarded state that elected Scott Walker and Paul Ryan.

  • One amazing thing about Trump, though...

    he's making Cruz look better all the time, and Cruz

    is leading polls dramatically in Wisconsin.

    @calfoxwc said:

    One amazing thing about Trump, though...

    he's making Cruz look better all the time, and Cruz

    is leading polls dramatically in Wisconsin.

    If it is Cruz vs Clinton we may get a voter turnout of 12 people.

  • Old, yes you are completely correct. I'm just talking about the game of politics and Donald Trump, a man who I think is very bright, should have had an answer in the can for that.

    "Chris there should always be consequences for breaking the law. This issue is one I have thought about my entire life and did not come to my conclusion lightly. What should the consequences be for performing or obtaining an abortion? That's something I will have to sit down with my newly appointed justice department and figure out. It will be one of my top priorities. To give you an off-the-cuff answer doesn't do an issue of such importance justice right now. I hope you understand."

    WSS

  • Old, yes you are completely correct. I'm just talking about the game of politics and Donald Trump, a man who I think is very bright, should have had an answer in the can for that.

    "Chris there should always be consequences for breaking the law. This issue is one I have thought about my entire life and did not come to my conclusion lightly. What should the consequences be for performing or obtaining an abortion? That's something I will have to sit down with my newly appointed justice department and figure out. It will be one of my top priorities. To give you an off-the-cuff answer doesn't do an issue of such importance justice right now. I hope you understand."

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Old, yes you are completely correct. I'm just talking about the game of politics and Donald Trump, a man who I think is very bright, should have had an answer in the can for that.

    "Chris there should always be consequences for breaking the law. This issue is one I have thought about my entire life and did not come to my conclusion lightly. What should the consequences be for performing or obtaining an abortion? That's something I will have to sit down with my newly appointed justice department and figure out. It will be one of my top priorities. To give you an off-the-cuff answer doesn't do an issue of such importance justice right now. I hope you understand."

    WSS

    WSS - you should be advising Trump because that is the spot on answer. I think Trump is a smart man as well but he has never held public office and he needs to surround himself with good advisers.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    One amazing thing about Trump, though...

    he's making Cruz look better all the time, and Cruz

    is leading polls dramatically in Wisconsin.

    If it is Cruz vs Clinton we may get a voter turnout of 12 people.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    If it is Cruz vs Clinton we may get a voter turnout of 12 people.

    13 🙂

  • @westside-steve said:

    Old, yes you are completely correct. I'm just talking about the game of politics and Donald Trump, a man who I think is very bright, should have had an answer in the can for that.

    "Chris there should always be consequences for breaking the law. This issue is one I have thought about my entire life and did not come to my conclusion lightly. What should the consequences be for performing or obtaining an abortion? That's something I will have to sit down with my newly appointed justice department and figure out. It will be one of my top priorities. To give you an off-the-cuff answer doesn't do an issue of such importance justice right now. I hope you understand."

    WSS

    WSS - you should be advising Trump because that is the spot on answer. I think Trump is a smart man as well but he has never held public office and he needs to surround himself with good advisers.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    WSS - you should be advising Trump because that is the spot on answer. I think Trump is a smart man as well but he has never held public office and he needs to surround himself with good advisers.

    I really should sir. This stuff is so obvious. I've mentioned before in high school I got a small scholarship from the national forensic League. I was never a debater I got all my points from Individual events especially boys extemporaneous speaking. In a competition you would go into your round competing against approximately 5 other kids. When you got there you were given a basket from which to pick 3 topics of those you select one and you have ten minutes to prepare a 6 minute speech. In the first two weeks of competition we realized but pretty much all the questions or similar so we would each have a canned speech ready to go for whatever topics we selected. No idea why Trump refuses to do that and I fear that will be his downfall, furthermore that will be the downfall of the country when Hillary takes office.

    WSS

  • Chris Matthews, that whinney little bitch.

  • Politics has gotten so dirty, the good leaders won't run anymore.

    Sen. John Thune should be running.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    WSS - you should be advising Trump because that is the spot on answer. I think Trump is a smart man as well but he has never held public office and he needs to surround himself with good advisers.

    I really should sir. This stuff is so obvious. I've mentioned before in high school I got a small scholarship from the national forensic League. I was never a debater I got all my points from Individual events especially boys extemporaneous speaking. In a competition you would go into your round competing against approximately 5 other kids. When you got there you were given a basket from which to pick 3 topics of those you select one and you have ten minutes to prepare a 6 minute speech. In the first two weeks of competition we realized but pretty much all the questions or similar so we would each have a canned speech ready to go for whatever topics we selected. No idea why Trump refuses to do that and I fear that will be his downfall, furthermore that will be the downfall of the country when Hillary takes office.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I really should sir. This stuff is so obvious. I've mentioned before in high school I got a small scholarship from the national forensic League. I was never a debater I got all my points from Individual events especially boys extemporaneous speaking. In a competition you would go into your round competing against approximately 5 other kids. When you got there you were given a basket from which to pick 3 topics of those you select one and you have ten minutes to prepare a 6 minute speech. In the first two weeks of competition we realized but pretty much all the questions or similar so we would each have a canned speech ready to go for whatever topics we selected. No idea why Trump refuses to do that and I fear that will be his downfall, furthermore that will be the downfall of the country when Hillary takes office.

    WSS

    I would be a poor debater. Usually after I debate someone I think of about 20 things I should have said. I have lots of practice though with my ultra liberal dad who I have debated this stuff many times through the years. I usually get the best of him but one time he kind of went on a *winning streak* against me until I started googling his *facts* (he is at a disadvantage knowing nothing about the internet) and found none of what he was saying was true. When I asked him about it I got him to admit (like a typical lib) he was making things up. 😁

  • Ha yeah the thing about debate is that it isn't personal. You will start a season with a topic and they could switch sides on that topic on you at any time. For instance resolved: marijuana should be legalized in the United States for recreational purposes. One side gets Pro one side gets Con.

    Halfway through the season you might be required to change sides. It's just a game. As far as making shit up I actually won a round completely fabricating everything I said. Furthermore the judge knew it and told me that I won the round just because it was an enjoyable speech and most people wouldn't know it was all Bs.

    WSS

  • PS as we speak MSNBC is asking Trump's opponents about this exact issue and everyone is waffling. Of course the woman shouldn't be punished. Really? I mean if something is against the law why should there be no repercussions for those who break it? They are giving everyone else, John Kasich Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz a pass without badgering them for an answer.

    WSS

  • PS as we speak MSNBC is asking Trump's opponents about this exact issue and everyone is waffling. Of course the woman shouldn't be punished. Really? I mean if something is against the law why should there be no repercussions for those who break it? They are giving everyone else, John Kasich Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz a pass without badgering them for an answer.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    PS as we speak MSNBC is asking Trump's opponents about this exact issue and everyone is waffling. Of course the woman shouldn't be punished. Really? I mean if something is against the law why should there be no repercussions for those who break it? They are giving everyone else, John Kasich Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz a pass without badgering them for an answer.

    WSS

    "I would consult the great sky lord who would unleash locusts upon the offending women."- Cruz

  • He's already backtracked on this, right? Not shocked.

  • PS as we speak MSNBC is asking Trump's opponents about this exact issue and everyone is waffling. Of course the woman shouldn't be punished. Really? I mean if something is against the law why should there be no repercussions for those who break it? They are giving everyone else, John Kasich Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz a pass without badgering them for an answer.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    PS as we speak MSNBC is asking Trump's opponents about this exact issue and everyone is waffling. Of course the woman shouldn't be punished. Really? I mean if something is against the law why should there be no repercussions for those who break it? They are giving everyone else, John Kasich Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz a pass without badgering them for an answer.

    WSS

    I wouldn't argue with the logic but you know if a politician wants to be elected over the grade of dog catcher he cannot take the position of criminal penalties for women having abortions. The laws we have today are pretty much the laws we want and those we don't want get changed. The people in the country do not want criminal penalties for women having abortions and to try to force that would work as well as prohibition did.

    Rand Paul made a good point on the other side. The liberal media will always try to trip republican candidates on the abortion issue but democrats never get asked questions about whether they support late term abortions.

  • Politics has gotten so dirty, the good leaders won't run anymore.

    Sen. John Thune should be running.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Politics has gotten so dirty, the good leaders won't run anymore.

    Sen. John Thune should be running.

    I don't know Cal when I looked into prior presidential campaigns going back to the beginning of the country it seems like politics has been dirty for centuries. For an unknown reason to me I like following politics.

    A Brief History of Campaign Mudslinging, From 1796 to Today
  • @westside-steve said:

    PS as we speak MSNBC is asking Trump's opponents about this exact issue and everyone is waffling. Of course the woman shouldn't be punished. Really? I mean if something is against the law why should there be no repercussions for those who break it? They are giving everyone else, John Kasich Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz a pass without badgering them for an answer.

    WSS

    I wouldn't argue with the logic but you know if a politician wants to be elected over the grade of dog catcher he cannot take the position of criminal penalties for women having abortions. The laws we have today are pretty much the laws we want and those we don't want get changed. The people in the country do not want criminal penalties for women having abortions and to try to force that would work as well as prohibition did.

    Rand Paul made a good point on the other side. The liberal media will always try to trip republican candidates on the abortion issue but democrats never get asked questions about whether they support late term abortions.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I wouldn't argue with the logic but you know if a politician wants to be elected over the grade of dog catcher he cannot take the position of criminal penalties for women having abortions. The laws we have today are pretty much the laws we want and those we don't want get changed. The people in the country do not want criminal penalties for women having abortions and to try to force that would work as well as prohibition did.

    Rand Paul made a good point on the other side. The liberal media will always try to trip republican candidates on the abortion issue but democrats never get asked questions about whether they support late term abortions.

    Bernie Sanders answer that with a flat no restrictions answer. Pro-choice means pro-choice when asked about late-term.

    WSS

  • Why is abortion even a topic? Were we going to re right the abortion laws?