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  • Happy Easter!! On a slow day, so thought I would bring this back. With a article at Cleveland.com & loss of major FA's in roster & analytically being involved in our new FO most have us with the notion of Trading Down, if our goal is rebuilding through the drafts. It always takes two but here's the possible. 49'ers from 7 to 2 will cost them, a future 1st rounder & maybe a 3rd or 4th. Philly from 8-2 is same as 49'ers plus a additional 2nd round pick. Rams from 15-2 will cost 3 1st rounder's & possible 2nd rounder if not more & may want to move up once before offering Browns the farm. These trade up offers our based on NFL trade value charts. Again, am not throwing out Wentz or Goff as our future but our FO & Hue will be there to take the calls..

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends

  • Posted 11 March 2016 - 01:14 AM

    Cal QB Jared Goff's NFL Combine interview with the Browns was "bad," according to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports.

    Hue Jackson has since denied the statement, but Robinson stands behind what he heard and noted that Goff and the Browns will talk at least two more times during the process (likely at his pro day and an in-house visit, is our guess). ESPN's Josina Anderson backs up what Robinson claims by adding "I don’t know if (Goff) fully understands how he’s coming off to grown men. It’s been discussed. Off putting." This process is a long one and we will hear some teams like or dislike specific prospects. However, the Browns are currently in desperate need of a quarterback, and many feel Goff is worthy of a top 10 selection. We do not.
    looks as maybe goff screwed up his interview hoping browns dont pick him is my guess. Beare
    **********************************************
    Steve Mariucci says Goff is the best pure passer in the draft. But I've been saying this very thing - in interviews,
    he just doesn't seem to smile much, and maybe it's arrogance/self-centeredness - just seems like he doesn't interview
    relaxed. Doesn't smile. Wentz smiles, jokes around, perfectly at ease with other people, interviews and himself.
    For me, it's Wentz, 100% at #2. From what I see, Goff seems like Jay Cutler. Wentz's teammates flock to him
    on their pro day. On Goff's pro day...not so much at all. Wentz openly was friends with his LT, Haeg. Goff,
    who knows. Just my impressions.
    OsirisO Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • C calfoxwc

    Posted 11 March 2016 - 01:14 AM

    Cal QB Jared Goff's NFL Combine interview with the Browns was "bad," according to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports.

    Hue Jackson has since denied the statement, but Robinson stands behind what he heard and noted that Goff and the Browns will talk at least two more times during the process (likely at his pro day and an in-house visit, is our guess). ESPN's Josina Anderson backs up what Robinson claims by adding "I don’t know if (Goff) fully understands how he’s coming off to grown men. It’s been discussed. Off putting." This process is a long one and we will hear some teams like or dislike specific prospects. However, the Browns are currently in desperate need of a quarterback, and many feel Goff is worthy of a top 10 selection. We do not.
    looks as maybe goff screwed up his interview hoping browns dont pick him is my guess. Beare
    **********************************************
    Steve Mariucci says Goff is the best pure passer in the draft. But I've been saying this very thing - in interviews,
    he just doesn't seem to smile much, and maybe it's arrogance/self-centeredness - just seems like he doesn't interview
    relaxed. Doesn't smile. Wentz smiles, jokes around, perfectly at ease with other people, interviews and himself.
    For me, it's Wentz, 100% at #2. From what I see, Goff seems like Jay Cutler. Wentz's teammates flock to him
    on their pro day. On Goff's pro day...not so much at all. Wentz openly was friends with his LT, Haeg. Goff,
    who knows. Just my impressions.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Posted 11 March 2016 - 01:14 AM

    Cal QB Jared Goff's NFL Combine interview with the Browns was "bad," according to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports.

    Hue Jackson has since denied the statement, but Robinson stands behind what he heard and noted that Goff and the Browns will talk at least two more times during the process (likely at his pro day and an in-house visit, is our guess). ESPN's Josina Anderson backs up what Robinson claims by adding "I don’t know if (Goff) fully understands how he’s coming off to grown men. It’s been discussed. Off putting." This process is a long one and we will hear some teams like or dislike specific prospects. However, the Browns are currently in desperate need of a quarterback, and many feel Goff is worthy of a top 10 selection. We do not.
    looks as maybe goff screwed up his interview hoping browns dont pick him is my guess. Beare
    **********************************************
    Steve Mariucci says Goff is the best pure passer in the draft. But I've been saying this very thing - in interviews,
    he just doesn't seem to smile much, and maybe it's arrogance/self-centeredness - just seems like he doesn't interview
    relaxed. Doesn't smile. Wentz smiles, jokes around, perfectly at ease with other people, interviews and himself.
    For me, it's Wentz, 100% at #2. From what I see, Goff seems like Jay Cutler. Wentz's teammates flock to him
    on their pro day. On Goff's pro day...not so much at all. Wentz openly was friends with his LT, Haeg. Goff,
    who knows. Just my impressions.

    Hard to be friends with your linemen when they don't protect you. Goff succeeded despite his O-line, not because of them. One of the reasons I like him.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
  • C calfoxwc

    Posted 11 March 2016 - 01:14 AM

    Cal QB Jared Goff's NFL Combine interview with the Browns was "bad," according to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports.

    Hue Jackson has since denied the statement, but Robinson stands behind what he heard and noted that Goff and the Browns will talk at least two more times during the process (likely at his pro day and an in-house visit, is our guess). ESPN's Josina Anderson backs up what Robinson claims by adding "I don’t know if (Goff) fully understands how he’s coming off to grown men. It’s been discussed. Off putting." This process is a long one and we will hear some teams like or dislike specific prospects. However, the Browns are currently in desperate need of a quarterback, and many feel Goff is worthy of a top 10 selection. We do not.
    looks as maybe goff screwed up his interview hoping browns dont pick him is my guess. Beare
    **********************************************
    Steve Mariucci says Goff is the best pure passer in the draft. But I've been saying this very thing - in interviews,
    he just doesn't seem to smile much, and maybe it's arrogance/self-centeredness - just seems like he doesn't interview
    relaxed. Doesn't smile. Wentz smiles, jokes around, perfectly at ease with other people, interviews and himself.
    For me, it's Wentz, 100% at #2. From what I see, Goff seems like Jay Cutler. Wentz's teammates flock to him
    on their pro day. On Goff's pro day...not so much at all. Wentz openly was friends with his LT, Haeg. Goff,
    who knows. Just my impressions.

    @calfoxwc said:

    he just doesn't seem to smile much, and maybe it's arrogance/self-centeredness - just seems like he doesn't interview[/size]

    relaxed. Doesn't smile. Wentz smiles, jokes around, perfectly at ease with other people, interviews and himself.[/size]

    For me, it's Wentz, 100% at #2. From what I see, Goff seems like Jay Cutler. Wentz's teammates flock to him[/size]

    on their pro day. On Goff's pro day...not so much at all. Wentz openly was friends with his LT, Haeg. Goff,[/size]

    who knows. Just my impressions.[/size]

    At 24 vs. 22 Wentz might be expected to be the more comfortable of the two in interviews.

    As for Pro Day interactions with teammates... I saw very little difference. One of the NFL Network heads even commented on Goff's "presence" in the weight room prior to the move to the field for drills.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • I'm all for trading back but staying in the top 7 or so picks.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Trade back to Ezekiel Elliot land.

  • I'd fall out of my chair at Canton Mike's, if the Browns traded down. Get your future qb

    at 2. Just nobody step on me....if worse comes to worse...

  • WHO WANTS THE NUMBER 2 ?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000652364/article/cleveland-browns-willing-to-trade-no-2-overall-pick?utm_campaign=Contact+SNS+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=snsanalytics

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • UR exactly right. At this point, they just need draft choices. I was hoping Gordon

    might be straightened out for next season but he's not so that makes it even more important to

    draft a receiver. Due to all these needs I would not draft a QB. They should have a good idea

    if RG3 is possibly going to revive himself by next year. Linemen, receivers and DBs are really needed

    now.

  • R rls321321

    UR exactly right. At this point, they just need draft choices. I was hoping Gordon

    might be straightened out for next season but he's not so that makes it even more important to

    draft a receiver. Due to all these needs I would not draft a QB. They should have a good idea

    if RG3 is possibly going to revive himself by next year. Linemen, receivers and DBs are really needed

    now.

    @rls321321 said:

    UR exactly right. At this point, they just need draft choices. I was hoping Gordon

    might be straightened out for next season but he's not so that makes it even more important to

    draft a receiver. Due to all these needs I would not draft a QB. They should have a good idea

    if RG3 is possibly going to revive himself by next year. Linemen, receivers and DBs are really needed

    now.

    Of course, you need to have someone who can throw to those receivers. Are you good with our current corps of QBs, RG, McCown, Davis, Shaw?

  • darren15D darren15

    WHO WANTS THE NUMBER 2 ?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000652364/article/cleveland-browns-willing-to-trade-no-2-overall-pick?utm_campaign=Contact+SNS+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=snsanalytics

    @darren15 said:

    The one guy on there wants them to draft Zeke Elliot. To me, that would mean a trade down.



  • The #Rams traded with the #Titans for No. 1, source said



    If true are we stuck at 2 now ?



    Rams must be moving up for one of the QB's, do we take the other one ?


    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • I just can't see us taking tiny hands Goff, Hue knows the divisions weather too much, if it's Wentz to LA I think we'll trade down.

  • darren15D darren15


    The #Rams traded with the #Titans for No. 1, source said



    If true are we stuck at 2 now ?



    Rams must be moving up for one of the QB's, do we take the other one ?


    @darren15 said:

    The #Rams traded with the #Titans for No. 1, source said

    If true are we stuck at 2 now ?

    Rams must be moving up for one of the QB's, do we take the other one ?

    Well, if they were going to take Tweedledee, why not just take Tweedledum instead? David Carr/Joey Harrington 2.0

  • "Citing an NFL team executive as a source, NFL Media analyst Lance Zierlein says the Browns are not enamored with a single player who would be available with their top selection and would be willing to part with it in order to collect more draft picks."

    I hope to God this is true, now more than ever since the Titans traded out. Just increased value of our #2 immensely.

    Edit: the problem is our rookie FO is ripe for the pickin' by the pros as they say and I'm afraid our pockets come up empty again.

  • T TexasAg1969

    "Citing an NFL team executive as a source, NFL Media analyst Lance Zierlein says the Browns are not enamored with a single player who would be available with their top selection and would be willing to part with it in order to collect more draft picks."

    I hope to God this is true, now more than ever since the Titans traded out. Just increased value of our #2 immensely.

    Edit: the problem is our rookie FO is ripe for the pickin' by the pros as they say and I'm afraid our pockets come up empty again.

    @texasag1969 said:

    "Citing an NFL team executive as a source, NFL Media analyst Lance Zierlein says the Browns are not enamored with a single player who would be available with their top selection and would be willing to part with it in order to collect more draft picks."

    I hope to God this is true, now more than ever since the Titans traded out. Just increased value of our #2 immensely.

    Edit: the problem is our rookie FO is ripe for the pickin' by the pros as they say and I'm afraid our pockets come up empty again.

    But, they can read a Draft Value Chart....and they can exact a premium above the Draft Value Chart if need be.

    Right now, it is all theoretical. When they are on the clock is when we will tell if they can do the do that they have to do.

  • He has us trading down or taking someone barely mentioned to us at 2

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/mock-drafts/lance-zierlein/305665?campaign=tw-nf-sf24389859-sf24389859

    Also he has my first 2 picks for Browns in our draft going top 10 🙂

  • I would guess that a deal with the Eagles is already about complete. I am THAT confident that we trade down. We simply lost too many veterans and too many free agents to remain at two. Many people believe that the 49's will trade up, but that's not how their GM works. He is much too conservative. The Eagles, however, WILL trade up. And we'll gladly take their number one next year, and some other picks this year.

    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • If the Browns take the Eagles up on an offer, who would they take at 8?

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    If the Browns take the Eagles up on an offer, who would they take at 8?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    If the Browns take the Eagles up on an offer, who would they take at 8?

    Whoever is left out of the top 8 'blue chip' players.

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