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  • my, now they learn dumb stuff in college.

    @calfoxwc said:

    my, now they learn dumb stuff in college.

    i'm long out of college old man. And besides, i had the fleecing of america down by the time i was in HS. You still haven't figured it out.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Top Gun must have just made it over to Russia, cause isn't that the exact same maneuver from that movie? Did the rooskie give the bird as he was inverted?

  • i'm long out of college old man. Cleve

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    And yet, it seems that's still all you know.

    And a movie, you think, is the same as real life?

    Yep. Stuck in your college days, regardless of where you are.

  • i'm long out of college old man. Cleve

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    And yet, it seems that's still all you know.

    And a movie, you think, is the same as real life?

    Yep. Stuck in your college days, regardless of where you are.

    @calfoxwc said:

    And a movie, you think, is the same as real life?

    no grandpa it was a joke.

  • If our military were weak we'd have some real fucking problems maintaining our lifestyle.

  • If our military were weak we'd have some real fucking problems maintaining our lifestyle.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    If our military were weak we'd have some real fucking problems maintaining our lifestyle.

    How so? I mean i'm not saying we don't need a military but I fail to see how they sustain our lifestyle. In fact if it weren't for how the govt used the military or threat of military intervention throughout the decades, we might have progressed more.

  • Well, do you see all the strife, desperate conditions, lack of freedom, fear of their own government, low standard of living...

    etc etc...all around the world?

    We have our Constitution. That's our guarantee, and our military keeps us from

    all the military interventions happening here. It sounds like you just take our freedom

    for granted, and don't know where it comes from.

  • We've pretty much taken what we wanted by force for a while. And it's translated to probably the best standard of living in the world although there's a couple if other countries comparable...by and large they've ridden our coattails on that strategy. If China or Russia thought they could bully us without fear of retaliation...they would do so without hesitation I'm sure.

  • We've pretty much taken what we wanted by force for a while. And it's translated to probably the best standard of living in the world although there's a couple if other countries comparable...by and large they've ridden our coattails on that strategy. If China or Russia thought they could bully us without fear of retaliation...they would do so without hesitation I'm sure.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    We've pretty much taken what we wanted by force for a while. And it's translated to probably the best standard of living in the world although there's a couple if other countries comparable...

    Every empire has said this, and every empire has fallen. It's self defeating in the long run. Instead of getting internally stronger we just pilfered the world.....do you see why we are what we are now? We've grown weak from that very paradigm you just described. Why keep evolving and growing when we can just make other people do shit for us under the threat of economic and or military force? "THIS" is why we're a nation of weak men and women now. The country would crumble if we had to get out and make our food again. But not the immigrants that we serfed into doing that shit for us....cause who wants to put their hands in the ground right?

  • Well, do you see all the strife, desperate conditions, lack of freedom, fear of their own government, low standard of living...

    etc etc...all around the world?

    We have our Constitution. That's our guarantee, and our military keeps us from

    all the military interventions happening here. It sounds like you just take our freedom

    for granted, and don't know where it comes from.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Well, do you see all the strife, desperate conditions, lack of freedom, fear of their own government, low standard of living...

    etc etc...all around the world?

    We have our Constitution. That's our guarantee, and our military keeps us from

    all the military interventions happening here. It sounds like you just take our freedom

    for granted, and don't know where it comes from.

    Is there waste in our current military?

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    We've pretty much taken what we wanted by force for a while. And it's translated to probably the best standard of living in the world although there's a couple if other countries comparable...

    Every empire has said this, and every empire has fallen. It's self defeating in the long run. Instead of getting internally stronger we just pilfered the world.....do you see why we are what we are now? We've grown weak from that very paradigm you just described. Why keep evolving and growing when we can just make other people do shit for us under the threat of economic and or military force? "THIS" is why we're a nation of weak men and women now. The country would crumble if we had to get out and make our food again. But not the immigrants that we serfed into doing that shit for us....cause who wants to put their hands in the ground right?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Every empire has said this, and every empire has fallen. It's self defeating in the long run. Instead of getting internally stronger we just pilfered the world.....do you see why we are what we are now? We've grown weak from that very paradigm you just described. Why keep evolving and growing when we can just make other people do shit for us under the threat of economic and or military force? "THIS" is why we're a nation of weak men and women now. The country would crumble if we had to get out and make our food again. But not the immigrants that we serfed into doing that shit for us....cause who wants to put their hands in the ground right?

    When something works at every point in human history you keep doing it.

  • Is there waste in our current military? woodypeckerhead

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    well, you may as well change the subject again, since you don't know

    the subject at hand -

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Every empire has said this, and every empire has fallen. It's self defeating in the long run. Instead of getting internally stronger we just pilfered the world.....do you see why we are what we are now? We've grown weak from that very paradigm you just described. Why keep evolving and growing when we can just make other people do shit for us under the threat of economic and or military force? "THIS" is why we're a nation of weak men and women now. The country would crumble if we had to get out and make our food again. But not the immigrants that we serfed into doing that shit for us....cause who wants to put their hands in the ground right?

    When something works at every point in human history you keep doing it.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    When something works at every point in human history you keep doing it.

    It doesn't work though, that's the point. It's failed "every single time". The human race should be 100"s of years further in mind and body but we're stagnant. And this is why. But every century or so some new cocksuckers try it again thinking this time it'll last....and it never does. Remember the Nazi's? Yeah they were "Certain" they were gonna be around in 1000 years. We've been the worlds ascendant superpower since then and look we're already on our way out....cause we ate ourselves from the inside out.

  • Is there waste in our current military? woodypeckerhead

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    well, you may as well change the subject again, since you don't know

    the subject at hand -

    @calfoxwc said:

    Is there waste in our current military? woodypeckerhead

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    well, you may as well change the subject again, since you don't know

    the subject at hand -

    He's not changing the subject. The waste in our military has in no small part to do with the multiple branches. This has been written about for probably decades at this point. I'm sorry if this is something wild and new to you.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Is there waste in our current military? woodypeckerhead

    *************************************

    well, you may as well change the subject again, since you don't know

    the subject at hand -

    He's not changing the subject. The waste in our military has in no small part to do with the multiple branches. This has been written about for probably decades at this point. I'm sorry if this is something wild and new to you.

    @clevfan4life said:

    He's not changing the subject. The waste in our military has in no small part to do with the multiple branches. This has been written about for probably decades at this point. I'm sorry if this is something wild and new to you.

    You know nothing civilian pukes make me laugh.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    When something works at every point in human history you keep doing it.

    It doesn't work though, that's the point. It's failed "every single time". The human race should be 100"s of years further in mind and body but we're stagnant. And this is why. But every century or so some new cocksuckers try it again thinking this time it'll last....and it never does. Remember the Nazi's? Yeah they were "Certain" they were gonna be around in 1000 years. We've been the worlds ascendant superpower since then and look we're already on our way out....cause we ate ourselves from the inside out.

    @clevfan4life said:

    It doesn't work though, that's the point. It's failed "every single time". The human race should be 100"s of years further in mind and body but we're stagnant. And this is why. But every century or so some new cocksuckers try it again thinking this time it'll last....and it never does. Remember the Nazi's? Yeah they were "Certain" they were gonna be around in 1000 years. We've been the worlds ascendant superpower since then and look we're already on our way out....cause we ate ourselves from the inside out.

    And where's your example of a peaceful utopian technologically advanced society that ever lasted?
  • We should be hundreds of years advanced he says. We're exactly as advanced as we should be

  • @clevfan4life said:

    He's not changing the subject. The waste in our military has in no small part to do with the multiple branches. This has been written about for probably decades at this point. I'm sorry if this is something wild and new to you.

    You know nothing civilian pukes make me laugh.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You know nothing civilian pukes make me laugh.

    Don't they call what you do stolen valor or something? Yeah have a coke and a smile ahhchie.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    It doesn't work though, that's the point. It's failed "every single time". The human race should be 100"s of years further in mind and body but we're stagnant. And this is why. But every century or so some new cocksuckers try it again thinking this time it'll last....and it never does. Remember the Nazi's? Yeah they were "Certain" they were gonna be around in 1000 years. We've been the worlds ascendant superpower since then and look we're already on our way out....cause we ate ourselves from the inside out.

    And where's your example of a peaceful utopian technologically advanced society that ever lasted?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    And where's your example of a peaceful utopian technologically advanced society that ever lasted?

    never happened here, but we have roughly a million examples from the last 10-15k years of what hasn't worked. I have zero doubt in my mind we've hindered our overall evolution from our gross mismanagement of our resources and society.