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  • Fitz over Hoyer over Sanchez.

    Fitz's problem (actually the Jet's problem) is that he wants some of this money other low level starters are scarfing up.

    Zombo

    --Always sign guys for two years

  • Fitz over Hoyer over Sanchez.

    Fitz's problem (actually the Jet's problem) is that he wants some of this money other low level starters are scarfing up.

    Zombo

    --Always sign guys for two years

    Zombo said:

    Fitz over Hoyer over Sanchez.

    Fitz's problem (actually the Jet's problem) is that he wants some of this money other low level starters are scarfing up.

    Zombo

    --Always sign guys for two years

    So? You think Denver should grab him?

    Or, do you think that Denver may be playing the game of starting a has been for a year, and hope they get their future QB either lower in the draft, or next year?

  • From 2 days ago, latest I found on Kaepernick:

    Apparently written before Hoyer release. He could be in their mix now.

  • Why is everyone so set on Tyrod leaving the Bills? He was good to very good last year. Not happening.

  • Zombo said:

    Fitz over Hoyer over Sanchez.

    Fitz's problem (actually the Jet's problem) is that he wants some of this money other low level starters are scarfing up.

    Zombo

    --Always sign guys for two years

    So? You think Denver should grab him?

    Or, do you think that Denver may be playing the game of starting a has been for a year, and hope they get their future QB either lower in the draft, or next year?

    @the-gipper said:

    So? You think Denver should grab him?

    Or, do you think that Denver may be playing the game of starting a has been for a year, and hope they get their future QB either lower in the draft, or next year?

    They have a Super Bowl team. So find the best guy for 2016 and get him signed for two years. In my opinion that's Fitz. I think they could win with McCown or Hoyer too, but those guys are kinda fragile. Fitz will probably get you 16.

    Zombo

  • Is Fitzpatrick Unrestricted FA, or is he Restricted?

  • Is Fitzpatrick Unrestricted FA, or is he Restricted?

    @the-gipper said:

    Is Fitzpatrick Unrestricted FA, or is he Restricted?

    How would he be restricted?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Is Fitzpatrick Unrestricted FA, or is he Restricted?

    How would he be restricted?

    @gftchris said:

    How would he be restricted?

    It happens. His current team could have the right to match any teams offer for him. Like the Browns did for Alex Mack two years ago. He signed an offer sheet from the Jags, Browns matched and kept him.

    But...after some checking, I find that he is Unrestricted.

    But also note: Case Keenum, who just signed yesterday back with the Rams was an RFA. Rams could have matched any offer made to him.....though I doubt any other teams gave him an offer. (possibly shied away because of knowledge that they could be matched)

  • On the ESPN Bill Polian Free Agent Tracker website, the following Quarterbacks are listed:

    Ryan Fitzpatrick with a B grade

    Tavaris Jackson with a C-

    All of the following with D grades:

    Jimmy Clausen

    Matt Flynn

    Josh Freeman

    Bruce Gradkowski

    Chad Henne

    Josh Johnson

    Matt McCloin

    Michael Vick

    Charlie Whitehurst

    TJ Yates.

    Griffin was give a C+ grade

    Hoyer does not appear on this list yet. Not sure how he will grade. I suggest no better than a C.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/freeagency/?year=2016&position=8&type=-1

  • Why is everyone so set on Tyrod leaving the Bills? He was good to very good last year. Not happening.

    @wargograw said:

    Why is everyone so set on Tyrod leaving the Bills? He was good to very good last year. Not happening.

    I don't get that either.

  • On the ESPN Bill Polian Free Agent Tracker website, the following Quarterbacks are listed:

    Ryan Fitzpatrick with a B grade

    Tavaris Jackson with a C-

    All of the following with D grades:

    Jimmy Clausen

    Matt Flynn

    Josh Freeman

    Bruce Gradkowski

    Chad Henne

    Josh Johnson

    Matt McCloin

    Michael Vick

    Charlie Whitehurst

    TJ Yates.

    Griffin was give a C+ grade

    Hoyer does not appear on this list yet. Not sure how he will grade. I suggest no better than a C.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/freeagency/?year=2016&position=8&type=-1

    @the-gipper said:

    On the ESPN Bill Polian Free Agent Tracker website, the following Quarterbacks are listed:

    Ryan Fitzpatrick with a B grade

    Tavaris Jackson with a C-

    All of the following with D grades:

    Jimmy Clausen

    Matt Flynn

    Josh Freeman

    Bruce Gradkowski

    Chad Henne

    Josh Johnson

    Matt McCloin

    Michael Vick

    Charlie Whitehurst

    TJ Yates.

    Griffin was give a C+ grade

    Hoyer does not appear on this list yet. Not sure how he will grade. I suggest no better than a C.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/freeagency/?year=2016&position=8&type=-1

    LOL, Manziel is such a risk- he's not even listed. Got dumped by Rosenhaus. I grade him an F-.

  • @gftchris said:

    How would he be restricted?

    It happens. His current team could have the right to match any teams offer for him. Like the Browns did for Alex Mack two years ago. He signed an offer sheet from the Jags, Browns matched and kept him.

    But...after some checking, I find that he is Unrestricted.

    But also note: Case Keenum, who just signed yesterday back with the Rams was an RFA. Rams could have matched any offer made to him.....though I doubt any other teams gave him an offer. (possibly shied away because of knowledge that they could be matched)

    @the-gipper said:

    It happens. His current team could have the right to match any teams offer for him. Like the Browns did for Alex Mack two years ago. He signed an offer sheet from the Jags, Browns matched and kept him.

    But...after some checking, I find that he is Unrestricted.

    But also note: Case Keenum, who just signed yesterday back with the Rams was an RFA. Rams could have matched any offer made to him.....though I doubt any other teams gave him an offer. (possibly shied away because of knowledge that they could be matched)

    Mack was transition tagged, hence we kept the rights, but that didn't happen to Fitz. Players who have played less than three years in the league can be RFA'd, and I think we both know that isn't Fitz.

  • Why is everyone so set on Tyrod leaving the Bills? He was good to very good last year. Not happening.

    @wargograw said:

    Why is everyone so set on Tyrod leaving the Bills? He was good to very good last year. Not happening.

    Who is everyone? I was under under the impression Rexy loves Tyrod.

    @hoorta said:

    LOL, Manziel is such a risk- he's not even listed. Got dumped by Rosenhaus. I grade him an F-.

    First player Rosenhaus has dropped in over 20 years of being an agent...

  • @wargograw said:

    Why is everyone so set on Tyrod leaving the Bills? He was good to very good last year. Not happening.

    Who is everyone? I was under under the impression Rexy loves Tyrod.

    @hoorta said:

    LOL, Manziel is such a risk- he's not even listed. Got dumped by Rosenhaus. I grade him an F-.

    First player Rosenhaus has dropped in over 20 years of being an agent...

    @tour2ma said:

    Who is everyone? I was under under the impression Rexy loves Tyrod.

    First player Rosenhaus has dropped in over 20 years of being an agent...

    Doesn't he still represent Josh Gordon? I mean, if he's keeping JG and dropping Manziel, who isn't even suspended, how bad is Manziel...

  • @tour2ma said:

    Who is everyone? I was under under the impression Rexy loves Tyrod.

    First player Rosenhaus has dropped in over 20 years of being an agent...

    Doesn't he still represent Josh Gordon? I mean, if he's keeping JG and dropping Manziel, who isn't even suspended, how bad is Manziel...

    @gftchris said:

    Doesn't he still represent Josh Gordon? I mean, if he's keeping JG and dropping Manziel, who isn't even suspended, how bad is Manziel...

    Probably as simple as Gordon returns his calls...

  • Everyone on this board, Tour.

  • Everyone on this board, Tour.

    @wargograw said:

    Everyone on this board, Tour.

    Ah....

    Meanwhile BH is in Denver today... should be able to throw 10% further at altitude... πŸ™‚

  • CFL maybe?

    @mike-h said:

    CFL maybe?

    Looks like he is the starting Quarterback for the Chicago Bears.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/03/john-fox-refuses-to-hand-job-back-to-jay-cutler-when-healthy/

    He's not great, but he's ... OK. And that'll get you work.

    How are Johnny's classes going?

    Zombo

  • How are Johnny's classes going?


    Zombo

    I hear me made an "A" on his 6 week mixology exam. πŸ˜›

  • How are Johnny's classes going?


    Zombo

    I hear me made an "A" on his 6 week mixology exam. πŸ˜›

    @texasag1969 said:

    How are Johnny's classes going?

    Zombo

    I heard me made an "A" on his 6 week mixology exam. πŸ˜›

    Not only that, did really well in the Basic Freebaseing class, as well as the chem lab turning Sudafed into methamphetamine for fun and profit. 😁 πŸ˜„