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  • One thing that I thought about was something that came up before - 'mobility' as a generic term, covering both in the pocket and outside the pocket. Like, Goff has great pocket mobility, while Wentz is more of a run threat, but they lump both in together.

  • Yup.... no doubt Wentz is the better/more dangerous "runner", but he turns into a runner too quickly at times.

    Another one that got me was "Poise". Wentz drops his eyes to the rush very quickly. At times looks like a chicken, jerking his head this way and that.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Since I am now choosing for the Titans in the newly revised mock draft, I have been rethinking exactly why they are trading back when everyone thinks they need a LT like Tunsil. I have decided that they have chosen to stick with the development of Taylor Lewan as their LT and use the picks to improve in other areas.

    Tour I saw you had a comment about Michigan State's Conklin maybe being not as good as rated. Could you elaborate on that for me please?

    Edit: 3 of the four mock drafters @NFL.com choose Conklin for the Titans @ #15. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/mock-drafts

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • I used Browns draft history and my own brand of analytics to come up with my one and only 2016 NFL draft prediction.

    It won't matter at what number we pick our guy. The formula says that the pick immediately before and after us will turn out to be successful players within 3 years. Our 1st rounder will be the usual bust. I hope it's wrong but as a long time fan, it's difficult for me to think otherwise.

  • having hiring the perfect coaching staff for the first time since '99 wasn't included in your analytics, I take it....

  • C calfoxwc

    having hiring the perfect coaching staff for the first time since '99 wasn't included in your analytics, I take it....

    @calfoxwc said:

    having hiring the perfect coaching staff for the first time since '99 wasn't included in your analytics, I take it....[/quote

    Actually the FO did play in my prediction. When did they get the perfect staff or is that a prediction? History

  • comparative assessment. The results of programming are only as good

    as the code written...

  • C calfoxwc

    comparative assessment. The results of programming are only as good

    as the code written...

    @calfoxwc said:

    comparative assessment. The results of programming are only as good

    as the code written...

    I hope you're right. But when you program in draft history with a unproven FO, .............
  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug

    @calfoxwc said:

    comparative assessment. The results of programming are only as good

    as the code written...

    I hope you're right. But when you program in draft history with a unproven FO, .............

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I hope you're right. But when you program in draft history with a unproven FO, .............

    Every FO was at some point unproven. Some/most get proven to be bad, some get proven to be good.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I hope you're right. But when you program in draft history with a unproven FO, .............

    Every FO was at some point unproven. Some/most get proven to be bad, some get proven to be good.

    @gftchris said:

    Every FO was at some point unproven. Some/most get proven to be bad, some get proven to be good.

    And ours never seems to get a real chance.

  • T TexasAg1969

    Since I am now choosing for the Titans in the newly revised mock draft, I have been rethinking exactly why they are trading back when everyone thinks they need a LT like Tunsil. I have decided that they have chosen to stick with the development of Taylor Lewan as their LT and use the picks to improve in other areas.

    Tour I saw you had a comment about Michigan State's Conklin maybe being not as good as rated. Could you elaborate on that for me please?

    Edit: 3 of the four mock drafters @NFL.com choose Conklin for the Titans @ #15. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/mock-drafts

    @texasag1969 said:

    Since I am now choosing for the Titans in the newly revised mock draft, I have been rethinking exactly why they are trading back when everyone thinks they need a LT like Tunsil. I have decided that they have chosen to stick with the development of Taylor Lewan as their LT and use the picks to improve in other areas.

    Tour I saw you had a comment about Michigan State's Conklin maybe being not as good as rated. Could you elaborate on that for me please?

    Edit: 3 of the four mock drafters @NFL.com choose Conklin for the Titans @ #15. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/mock-drafts

    Here's my review...

    @tour2ma said:

    Y. Jack Conklin (MSU) - 6'6 318 http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=106344&draftyear=2016&genpos=OT

    ND's Stanley may have looked less athletic than my top two OTs, but Conklin was the first OT to prompt me to write "heavy-footed"... and he did so repeatedly. He also tends to play high.

    Here we may have a legit inside candidate as he is very good with his upper body, playing strong with extended arms. But his drop in athleticism cannot be ignored.

    MSU was so run oriented and successful doing it that the tape is not as determinative as it is for others OTs. So Conklin is another OT who needs a good Combine in my opinion. But where Stanley has a chance to flash some athleticism, I don't see Conklin as likely to do so.

    Again... I see a Day 2 guy.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @texasag1969 said:

    Since I am now choosing for the Titans in the newly revised mock draft, I have been rethinking exactly why they are trading back when everyone thinks they need a LT like Tunsil. I have decided that they have chosen to stick with the development of Taylor Lewan as their LT and use the picks to improve in other areas.

    Tour I saw you had a comment about Michigan State's Conklin maybe being not as good as rated. Could you elaborate on that for me please?

    Edit: 3 of the four mock drafters @NFL.com choose Conklin for the Titans @ #15. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/mock-drafts

    Here's my review...

    @tour2ma said:

    Y. Jack Conklin (MSU) - 6'6 318 http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=106344&draftyear=2016&genpos=OT

    ND's Stanley may have looked less athletic than my top two OTs, but Conklin was the first OT to prompt me to write "heavy-footed"... and he did so repeatedly. He also tends to play high.

    Here we may have a legit inside candidate as he is very good with his upper body, playing strong with extended arms. But his drop in athleticism cannot be ignored.

    MSU was so run oriented and successful doing it that the tape is not as determinative as it is for others OTs. So Conklin is another OT who needs a good Combine in my opinion. But where Stanley has a chance to flash some athleticism, I don't see Conklin as likely to do so.

    Again... I see a Day 2 guy.

    @tour2ma said:

    Here's my review...

    Thanks.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    Here's my review...

    Thanks.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Thanks.

    You're welcome... and remember... you get what you pay for... 😉

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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