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  • Bosa can play multiple positions in multiple fronts.

    And that's how Ray Horton plays defense.

    From the horse's mouth:

    "That's the most important thing to me – what do we look like, not what we line up in. We may be a 3-4 on one snap. We may be a 4-3 on another snap. I guarantee you we'll be a 5-2 sometimes, and we'll be a 4-4 sometimes. We are a multi-front, attacking defense, and that's the most important thing."

    "That may mean one snap being 5-2, the next snap it may be 4-4. It will be predicated by what the offense does. We have athletes that can stand up, that can put their hand in the ground, that can run, so that's why I go back to the multi-front defense."

    I don't think there's even a question other than if he'll be available at 8.

    So much for amassing picks...

    @mike-h said:

    Bosa can play multiple positions in multiple fronts.


    "That may mean one snap being 5-2, the next snap it may be 4-4. "

    Not a question of "can". It's "how well"... Bosa is going to be a good, even a very good, player. But the more time he spends outside in a 4-3 facing his opponent's #2 OT, the better he will do. Drop him inside in 3rd and longs and he'll have moments there as well.

    As for Horton's approach... I seem to recall the same being said in 2013... and it not being born out once the season started. Sure we'll see predictable, situational looks, but multiple looks haven't truly been featured by a Browns defense since Ryan and Mangini left town.

  • So much for amassing picks...

    @mike-h said:

    Bosa can play multiple positions in multiple fronts.


    "That may mean one snap being 5-2, the next snap it may be 4-4. "

    Not a question of "can". It's "how well"... Bosa is going to be a good, even a very good, player. But the more time he spends outside in a 4-3 facing his opponent's #2 OT, the better he will do. Drop him inside in 3rd and longs and he'll have moments there as well.

    As for Horton's approach... I seem to recall the same being said in 2013... and it not being born out once the season started. Sure we'll see predictable, situational looks, but multiple looks haven't truly been featured by a Browns defense since Ryan and Mangini left town.

    @tour2ma said:

    So much for amassing picks...

    Ramsey is an analytics pick. Jack is to reward me for watching the entire first round.

  • @tour2ma said:

    So much for amassing picks...

    Ramsey is an analytics pick. Jack is to reward me for watching the entire first round.

    @suomi said:

    Ramsey is an analytics pick. Jack is to reward me for watching the entire first round.

    lol... well in that case... hope you're as bored as the rest of us after ~21:00 CDT...

  • So much for amassing picks...

    @mike-h said:

    Bosa can play multiple positions in multiple fronts.


    "That may mean one snap being 5-2, the next snap it may be 4-4. "

    Not a question of "can". It's "how well"... Bosa is going to be a good, even a very good, player. But the more time he spends outside in a 4-3 facing his opponent's #2 OT, the better he will do. Drop him inside in 3rd and longs and he'll have moments there as well.

    As for Horton's approach... I seem to recall the same being said in 2013... and it not being born out once the season started. Sure we'll see predictable, situational looks, but multiple looks haven't truly been featured by a Browns defense since Ryan and Mangini left town.

    @tour2ma said:

    So much for amassing picks...

    Not a question of "can". It's "how well"... Bosa is going to be a good, even a very good, player. But the more time he spends outside in a 4-3 facing his opponent's #2 OT, the better he will do. Drop him inside in 3rd and longs and he'll have moments there as well.

    basically replace kruger wiith Bosa....I would be totally ok with that.

  • If available at 8 Elliot, Buckner or Conklin

  • @tour2ma said:

    So much for amassing picks...

    Not a question of "can". It's "how well"... Bosa is going to be a good, even a very good, player. But the more time he spends outside in a 4-3 facing his opponent's #2 OT, the better he will do. Drop him inside in 3rd and longs and he'll have moments there as well.

    basically replace kruger wiith Bosa....I would be totally ok with that.

    @clevfan4life said:

    basically replace kruger wiith Bosa....I would be totally ok with that.

    As would I at #8, but the net gain for a R1 pick would be dependant upon which Kruger we were replacing... the 2014 or the 2015.

  • Bosa no. 3 overall (essentially no. 1 post-QB), and to a 3-4 team. Jack not picked in round 1.

  • 40 inch vert

  • 40 inch vert

    @poeticg said:

    40 inch vert

    On one leg?

  • I think this guy could be worth the risk in round 2. They are saying he is good to go, they just don't know how long of a career he will have. I think 5 good seasons is worth a 2nd round pick. Having said that I think we are in a good position to trade back about 5 spots and see who falls to us, as long as we find someone who is willing to trade.

  • I think this guy could be worth the risk in round 2. They are saying he is good to go, they just don't know how long of a career he will have. I think 5 good seasons is worth a 2nd round pick. Having said that I think we are in a good position to trade back about 5 spots and see who falls to us, as long as we find someone who is willing to trade.

    @harry-buffalo said:

    I think this guy could be worth the risk in round 2. They are saying he is good to go, they just don't know how long of a career he will have. I think 5 good seasons is worth a 2nd round pick. Having said that I think we are in a good position to trade back about 5 spots and see who falls to us, as long as we find someone who is willing to trade.

    Good to see you Harry... I miss disagreeing with you...

    I pass on Jack... zero risk tolerance year.

    I do like the trade down... up to maybe 9 spots.

  • @harry-buffalo said:

    I think this guy could be worth the risk in round 2. They are saying he is good to go, they just don't know how long of a career he will have. I think 5 good seasons is worth a 2nd round pick. Having said that I think we are in a good position to trade back about 5 spots and see who falls to us, as long as we find someone who is willing to trade.

    Good to see you Harry... I miss disagreeing with you...

    I pass on Jack... zero risk tolerance year.

    I do like the trade down... up to maybe 9 spots.

    @tour2ma said:

    Good to see you Harry... I miss disagreeing with you...

    I pass on Jack... zero risk tolerance year.

    I do like the trade down... up to maybe 9 spots.

    Agree, as much as I would like to see the Browns take Jack, they are in no position to be taking such risks. They need someone that at least initially seems reliable.

  • Draft him.

    Z

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