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Ben Carson - a chance ObaMao will impose martial law

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  • of course not, I don't think he will actually do it - he won't get away with it at all in the long run...anyways.

    but there is a CHANCE. Not a prediction. You like to smart off, but answer my question... "Why?"

  • of course not, I don't think he will actually do it - he won't get away with it at all in the long run...anyways.

    but there is a CHANCE. Not a prediction. You like to smart off, but answer my question... "Why?"

    @calfoxwc said:

    of course not, I don't think he will actually do it - he won't get away with it at all in the long run...anyways.

    but there is a CHANCE. Not a prediction. You like to smart off, but answer my question... "Why?"

    so now it's a small far off chance? ok gimme cal generated odds. 100-1?

  • go look up "chance" in a dictionary and try to not continue making a fool of yourself.

  • so is there a 1 in 4 "chance" he declares martial law? The word chance is a generic descriptor for probability Cal. A probability just has more math behind it. But whatever let's not interrupt this game, what's the chance? And if he ends up not declaring martial law will you agree to something? I may have been hasty in my original offering....I don't want you to leave. However, if he doesn't declare martial law will agree to abstain from ANY post creation whatsoever for a period of 6 months? you can respond and retort to your liking, but ZERO post creation.

  • Cleve trans-lation:

    "BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH HAHA"

    boring.

  • You know, there is a chance that I will be killed by an incoming meteor hitting me as a walk to my car today - about a 1 in 1,600,000 chance, to be exact. I guess it's time to post a long, rambling board topic about it, because...you know...there IS a chance, after all...

    Thanks a lot, Obama.

  • Cleve trans-lation:

    "BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH HAHA"

    boring.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Cleve trans-lation:

    "BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH HAHA"

    boring.

    Insightful

  • There's a chance we all die from an alien invasion tomorrow too.

  • far more of a chance of obamao declaring martial law. A few congressman

    have called for him to do it.

    and, there is a historical precedent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law

    See also: Suspension clause

    The martial law concept in the United States is closely tied with the right of habeas corpus, which is in essence the right to a hearing on lawful imprisonment, or more broadly, the supervision of law enforcement by the judiciary. The ability to suspend habeas corpus is often equated with martial law.[citation needed] Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution states, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."
    In United States law, martial law is limited by several court decisions that were handed down between the American Civil War and World War II. In 1878, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids military involvement in domestic law enforcement without congressional approval.
    History[edit]
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    Throughout United States history are several examples of the imposition of martial law, aside from that during the Civil War.
    There have been many instances of the use of the military within the borders of the United States, such as during the Whiskey Rebellion and in the South during the civil rights crises, but these acts are not tantamount to a declaration of martial law. The distinction must be made as clear as that between martial law and military justice: deployment of troops does not necessarily mean that the civil courts cannot function, and that is one of the keys, as the Supreme Court noted, to martial law.
    The American Revolution[edit]
    As a result of the Boston Tea Party, Parliament passed the Massachusetts Government Act, one of the Intolerable Acts, which suppressed town meetings and assemblies, and imposed appointed government, tantamount to martial law.[23][24][25]
    New Orleans, Louisiana in the War of 1812[edit]
    During the War of 1812, US General Andrew Jackson imposed martial law in New Orleans, Louisiana before repulsing the British in the Battle of New Orleans.[26][27][28] Martial law was also imposed in a four-mile radius around the vicinity. When word came of the end of the war, Jackson maintained martial law, contending that he had not gotten official word of the peace. A judge demanded habeas corpus for a man arrested for sedition. Rather than comply with the writ, Jackson had the judge arrested.
    Ex parte Milligan[edit]
    On September 15, 1863 President Lincoln imposed Congressionally authorized martial law.[29] The authorizing act allowed the President to suspend habeas corpus throughout the entire United States (which he had already done under his own authority on April 27, 1861). Lincoln imposed the suspension on "prisoners of war, spies, or aiders and abettors of the enemy," as well as on other classes of people, such as draft dodgers. The President's proclamation was challenged in Ex parte Milligan, 71 US 2 [1866]. The Supreme Court ruled that Lincoln's imposition of martial law (by way of suspension of habeas corpus) was unconstitutional in areas where the local courts were still in session.
    The Great Chicago Fire[edit]
    In response to the Great Chicago Fire of 1871, Chicago mayor Roswell B. Mason declared a state of martial law and placed General Philip Sheridan in charge of the city on October 9, 1871. After the fire was extinguished, there were no widespread disturbances and martial law was lifted within a few days.[30]
    Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, 1892[edit]
    In 1892, in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, striking mine workers blew up a mill and shot at strike-breaking workers. The explosion leveled a four-story building and killed one person. The governor declared martial law. At the same time, a request was made for federal troops to back guardsmen. Over 600 people were arrested. The list was whittled down to two dozen ringleaders who were tried in military court. While in prison, the mine workers formed a new union, the Western Federation of Miners.
    San Francisco earthquake of 1906[edit]
    Following the earthquake of 1906, the troops stationed in the Presidio were pressed into martial law service. Guards were posted throughout the city, and all dynamite was confiscated. The dynamite was used to destroy buildings in the path of fires, to prevent the fires from spreading.
    Colorado Coalfield War[edit]
    In 1914, imposition of martial law climaxed the so-called Colorado Coalfield War. Dating back decades, the conflicts came to a head in Ludlow, Colorado in 1913. The Colorado National Guard was called in to quell the strikers. For a time, the peace was kept, but it is reported that the make-up of the Guard stationed at the mines began to shift from impartial normal troops to companies of loyal mine guards. Clashes increased and the proclamation of martial law was made by the governor, eventually resulting in the Ludlow Massacre. President Wilson sent in federal troops, eventually ending the violence.
    West Virginia Coal Wars[edit]
    During the events of the West Virginia Coal Wars (1920-1921), martial law was declared on the state of West Virginia. At the behest of Governor Cornwell, federal troops had been dispatched to Mingo County to deal with the striking miners. The army officer in charge acted, ostensibly, under the Suspension Clause of Article I of the United States Constitution (selectively; accounts show that he only jailed union miners), and did not allow assembly of any kind. If his soldiers found any union miners, they immediately took them and imprisoned them. The jails filled up so quickly that he had to release miners. As it went, miners were arrested, jailed, and released without any sort of trial. After a time, when the trial of Sid Hatfield began; the military occupation and "veritable military dictatorship" (Governor Cornwell) of the army officer ended. Many of the miners were not released from jail. It was only the first of three times that federal troops would be called to quiet the miners in the West Virginia Mine War.[citation needed]
    Tulsa Race Riot[edit]
    In 1921, during the Tulsa race riot, the Oklahoma National Guard declared martial law. This event was caused by KKK members who held government state and local office who together conspired to wipe out Black Wall Street. It was in effect a bombing of Americans by Americans. The phone lines where cut so that no one could call for help. Many of the people who fled the city seeking help where shot or lynched.
    San Francisco, California, 1934[edit]
    In 1934, California Governor Frank Merriam placed the docks of San Francisco under martial law, citing "riots and tumult" resulting from a dock worker's strike. The Governor threatened to place the entire city under martial law. The National Guard was called in to open the docks, and a city-wide institution of martial law was averted when goods began to flow. The guardsmen were empowered to make arrests and to then try detainees or turn them over to the courts.
    The Territory of Hawaii[edit]
    During World War II (1939 to 1945) what is now the State of Hawaii was held under martial law from December 7, 1941 to October 24, 1944, following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.[31] Many Hawaiians were, and are, of Japanese descent, and the loyalty of these people was called into question[citation needed]. After the war, the federal judge for the islands condemned the conduct of martial law, saying, "Gov. Poindexter declared lawfully martial law but the Army went beyond the governor and set up that which was lawful only in conquered enemy territory namely, military government which is not bound by the Constitution. And they ... threw the Constitution into the discard and set up a military dictatorship."[this quote needs a citation]
    Freedom Riders[edit]
    On May 21, 1961, Governor Patterson of Alabama declared martial law "as a result of outside agitators coming into Alabama to violate our laws and customs" which has led to "outbreaks of lawlessness and mob action."
  • Therefore, the goofy joking is hereby rendered nonsense.

    There is NO HISTORICAL PRECEDENT, nor is there a LEGAL AVENUE

    for an alien invasion, or being hit by a meteor.

    okay, for the dumb guy wanting a date with a pretty gal who would NEVER go out with him....

    that at least fits.

    But the ramifications of happening are seriously dire with the martial law jobbie, not very much

    with the date.

  • To be fair there's historical precedent for being hit by a meteor.

  • I stand corrected. dammit. šŸ™‚

  • Still waiting cal. And still waiting for a takeup on that bet.

  • It's a stupidass bet. You don't get to slant the bet in your favor and get takers.

    that isn't real life. Quit the video game and start living in reality.

  • It's a stupidass bet. You don't get to slant the bet in your favor and get takers.

    that isn't real life. Quit the video game and start living in reality.

    @calfoxwc said:

    It's a stupidass bet. You don't get to slant the bet in your favor and get takers.

    that isn't real life. Quit the video game and start living in reality.

    how am I slanting the bet? There's no video game here what are you talking about? You're posting this long rambling assertion that there's a good chance Obama will impose martial law before the 2016 gen elections. So I threw the red flag now pick it up. So I say if you lose you can't start a thread for 6 months, if I lose the same......no hell i'll do one better, I won't post "at all" for 3 months. Deal?

  • I like where this is going...

  • I'm betting FOR a relatively small chance? you aren't sane.

    besides, you wouldn't "pay up" - you just are that way.

    But, it IS a chance. Not betworthy, unless you are stoned, which,

    would explain a lot of your posts....

  • I'm betting FOR a relatively small chance? you aren't sane.

    besides, you wouldn't "pay up" - you just are that way.

    But, it IS a chance. Not betworthy, unless you are stoned, which,

    would explain a lot of your posts....

    @calfoxwc said:

    I'm betting FOR a relatively small chance? you aren't sane.

    besides, you wouldn't "pay up" - you just are that way.

    But, it IS a chance. Not betworthy, unless you are stoned, which,

    would explain a lot of your posts....

    So you admit the chance is so small as to be almost laughable then yes? Like there would have to be some kind of global natural disaster where every country calls for martial law. So you went through all that to say OBama would do what pretty much any sitting president would do if we were invaded by aliens.

    ANd yes I absolutely would pay up...subject to a banning by the mods if I didn't .I would only post at the Browns forum...zero posts here at the political board for however long, i'm open to negotiations. ANd you would not be able to start any threads for that duration either.

  • I'm betting FOR a relatively small chance? you aren't sane.

    besides, you wouldn't "pay up" - you just are that way.

    But, it IS a chance. Not betworthy, unless you are stoned, which,

    would explain a lot of your posts....

    @calfoxwc said:

    ...Not betworthy, unless you are stoned, which,

    would explain a lot of your posts....

    Then it's also not newsworthy, which is pretty much ALL of your posts.

    Thanks, Obama