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  • thenew23T thenew23

    Who makes it?

    QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

    RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

    WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

    TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

    FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

    OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

    OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

    C- Erving, Matthews

    DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

    DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

    OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, Jeffcoat, C.Johnson

    ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

    CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

    S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

    LS- Hughlett

    K- Coons, Craddock

    P- Lee

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    @thenew23 said:

    Who makes it?

    QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler

    RB- Crowell, D.Johnson

    WR- Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, (Gordon)

    TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Holtz

    FB/H-Back- DeValve, Skov

    OT- Thomas, Bowie, S.Coleman, Drango

    OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor

    C- Erving, Matthews

    DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample

    DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

    OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, Ogbah

    ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Schobert, Wright

    CB- Haden, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Taylor, Caldwell

    S- Campbell, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps

    K- Coons

    P- Lee

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    • thenew23T thenew23

      Who makes it?

      QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

      RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

      WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

      TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

      FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

      OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

      OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

      C- Erving, Matthews

      DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

      DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

      OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, Jeffcoat, C.Johnson

      ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

      CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

      S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

      LS- Hughlett

      K- Coons, Craddock

      P- Lee

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      @thenew23 said:

      Who makes it?

      QB- Griffin, Kessler (Davis and Shaw cut/PS, McCown traded)

      RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Watson (Mostert and Winston cut/PS)

      WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall (Gordon) (Gabriel, Jennings, Moore, Hall [not even sure who that is] cut, one of Hawk and Hartline traded or cut, one of the rookies [probably Louis] PS)

      TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Holtz (Hamlett cut, Telfer cut/PS)

      FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov (M. Johnson cut/PS)

      OT- Thomas, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller (Bowie, Bailey, France, Ladson, Miller cut/PS)

      OG- Bitonio, Greco (Paztor, Johnson, Boffeli cut)

      C- Erving, Matthews

      DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample (Rose cut)

      DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

      OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, Ogbah, Jeffcoat (A. Bryant and C. Johnson cut, Jeffcoat is an OLB not ILB)

      ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Schobert, Wright (Carder and Tuggle cut, Alexander PS)

      CB- Haden, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, (T. Williams cut/traded, Taylor, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette cut/PS)

      S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred (Stamps and Howard cut/PS)

      LS- Hughlett

      K- Coons, Craddock (cut one)

      P- Lee

      Dang I'm good! I just did my first run through and ended at 52! Paztor or one of the RBs can stay.

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        No love for Matthews, the new?

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          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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          roster bubbles & PS rules again, already.. be back after a sure head scratching headache 😛

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          • thenew23T thenew23

            Who makes it?

            QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

            RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

            WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

            TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

            FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

            OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

            OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

            C- Erving, Matthews

            DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

            DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

            OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, Jeffcoat, C.Johnson

            ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

            CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

            S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

            LS- Hughlett

            K- Coons, Craddock

            P- Lee

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            @thenew23 said:

            Who makes it?

            QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

            Prediction - we only carry 2 QBs; McCown will either be traded or cut at the 53.

            RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

            Winston was Farmer's pet RB, this regime has no attachment to him; Mostert stays for return game

            WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

            Pryor is in as the third QB option (having experienced Hue's system in OAK and Cinci). If Gordon is returned from the abyss, he takes the place of Hartline.

            TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

            Difficult to guess, and probably these guys are merged with the below, and you pick any two behind Barnidge.

            FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

            OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

            OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

            C- Erving, Matthews

            Drango projects inside; Bailey is a swing tackle backup; Pasztor gives extra insurance at RT in a pinch; Matthews is possibly odd man out in numbers game. Starting OL: JT, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, Coleman

            Who's Johnson?

            DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

            We'll keep those three - maybe Hughes goes; the two UDFAs, who knows what'll happen.

            DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

            Hughes probably ends up as an end here

            OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, C.Johnson

            Who's Johnson?

            ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Jeffcoat, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

            Davis and Kirksey to start, Tuggle and Scoobs to back up, and schobert to swing from inside to out.

            CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Caldwell, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

            This group is largely the same as last year.

            S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

            Pryor or Moore will be an interesting battle at FS. I have high hopes for Campbell at SS.

            LS- Hughlett

            K- Coons, Craddock

            P- Lee

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              No earthy idea but the shakeup of vets continues as a record # of rookies stay. It's just moneyball and cheapest win out when skills or lack thereof are close to the same.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                Don' know, but you have Ogbah listed as an OLB.....I think he will be a DE

                And you have Schobert as an ILB.....I thought he played mostly on the outside.

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                • The GipperT The Gipper

                  Don' know, but you have Ogbah listed as an OLB.....I think he will be a DE

                  And you have Schobert as an ILB.....I thought he played mostly on the outside.

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Don' know, but you have Ogbah listed as an OLB.....I think he will be a DE

                  And you have Schobert as an ILB.....I thought he played mostly on the outside.

                  Went through this with Zombo, Ogbah will be an OLB in a 3-4.

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    See the roster for further confirmation, they have him listed as LB

                    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/roster.html

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                      QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

                      RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

                      WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

                      TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

                      FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

                      OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

                      OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

                      C- Erving, Matthews

                      DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

                      DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

                      OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, C.Johnson

                      ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Jeffcoat, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

                      CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

                      S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

                      LS- Hughlett
                      K- Coons, Craddock
                      P- Lee

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                        PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                        Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                        Say it ain't so....

                        The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                          Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                          Say it ain't so....

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                          @poeticg said:

                          Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                          Say it ain't so....

                          Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                          Him over Tuggle.

                          Zombo

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                            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                            Who makes it?
                            QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler(PS)
                            RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Mostert, Watson(PS)
                            WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins(PS), Louis(PS), Payton.
                            TE- Barnidge, Telfer
                            FB/H-Back- DeValve
                            OT- Thomas, Bailey, S.Coleman
                            OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor C- Erving, Matthews (PS)
                            DT- Shelton, Meder, Lawrence-Stample (PS)
                            DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Nassib
                            OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, Ogbah.
                            ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Jeffcoat (IR), Schobert, Wright, Alexander(PS)
                            CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, J. Taylor.
                            S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred
                            LS- Hughlett
                            K- Not on Roster
                            P- Lee

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                              @poeticg said:

                              Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                              Say it ain't so....

                              Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                              Him over Tuggle.

                              Zombo

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                              Zombo said:

                              Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                              Him over Tuggle.

                              Zombo

                              Good shit.

                              The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                                http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2016/05/09/cardinals-were-close-landing-ex-arizona-linebacker-scooby-wright/84138548/

                                How close were the Cardinals to adding former Arizona standout linebacker Scooby Wright to their roster?

                                Oh so close.

                                There were 253 picks in the 2016 NFL draft. Wright was No. 250 selected by Cleveland.

                                Just minutes before the pick, Cardinals coach Bruce Arians was having a conversation with Wright.

                                MORE: Download our Bickley & Boivin app iOS | Android

                                “Scooby’s a great blitzer, and I actually had Scooby on the phone, begging him to come with us as a free agent because I think he has something special about him, and the Browns drafted him,” Arians said recently during promotions for the second annual Arians Family Foundation Fundraiser at Steak 44.

                                When Wright got the call from the Browns, he started crying, ran into the backyard of his father’s Santa Rosa, Calif., home and took a flying leap, over a fence and head-first into a pool.

                                The Santa Rosa Press-Democrat reported that Wright was “about to call the Arizona Cardinals and tell them he would accept their free agent offer, almost certain he would go undrafted.”

                                So close.

                                MORE: Stakes raised for Rodriguez, Graham this season

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                                Even though Arizona is my birthplace, the Browns are my home. I'm glad we got Scooby, they got Tyrann a couple years ago, a player I was begging us to get... and we got leon McFadden?

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                                  Hard to read the posts where you don't include who didn't make it, FYI.

                                  Is Jeffcoat really an inside guy now or am I correct that that's a mistake?

                                  I have no idea whether Matthews can play guard or not. Knowing that makes those decisions a little easier.

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                                    Hard to read the posts where you don't include who didn't make it, FYI.

                                    Is Jeffcoat really an inside guy now or am I correct that that's a mistake?

                                    I have no idea whether Matthews can play guard or not. Knowing that makes those decisions a little easier.

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                                    thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @wargograw said:

                                    Hard to read the posts where you don't include who didn't make it, FYI.

                                    Is Jeffcoat really an inside guy now or am I correct that that's a mistake?

                                    I have no idea whether Matthews can play guard or not. Knowing that makes those decisions a little easier.

                                    Hes OLB. I will fix the OP.

                                    Ogbah will be a OLB project, but Nassib will likely gain weight and play end.

                                    Schobert projects as a versatile OLB/ILB which will make him very valuable

                                    Why all the love for UDFA Matthews? Other than the obvious love for the family ties, we drafted 14 guys... That doesnt leave much room for an undrafted player... Just sayin...

                                    Good stuff so far... Wayyyy to early for any of us to even have a clue... About any position, except maybe our punter...

                                    #Justsayin'
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                                      thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                      Also, I could see Armonty go back to the 5-tech under Horton. I believe it was Pettine that tried to turn him into a LB. He's more of a nickel DE on passing downs IMHO... No coverage skills

                                      #Justsayin'
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                                        Matthews was first team All-SEC on PFF grades last year, ahead of even Ryan Kelly, and that was under a position coach so bad he was fired after one year.

                                        He also came from an offense that didn't suit his lack of length because we (A&M) use big splits so he's blocking a lot of guys by himself. There's also shorter DTs in college and believe it or not, shorter DTs expose a center's lack of length more than taller ones. As a down blocker and/or double teamer, Matthews is much better. That's what he'll be doing in our (Browns) offense.

                                        For comparison, Patrick Lewis was our last center. He was also 6'1-2", like Mike. He struggled quite a bit with SEC DTs in Sumlin's first year which was Lewis' last year. He too went undrafted but is now a starting center in the NFL.

                                        Plus the jury is definitely out on Erving.

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                                          @poeticg said:

                                          Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                                          Say it ain't so....

                                          Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                                          Him over Tuggle.

                                          Zombo

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                                          darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                                          Zombo said:

                                          Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                                          Him over Tuggle.

                                          Zombo

                                          I also think Drango lands a spot

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