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  • wargograw W One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    No love for Matthews, the new?

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    • gumby73 gumby73G Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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      roster bubbles & PS rules again, already.. be back after a sure head scratching headache 😛

      Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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      • thenew23T thenew23

        Who makes it?

        QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

        RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

        WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

        TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

        FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

        OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

        OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

        C- Erving, Matthews

        DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

        DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

        OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, Jeffcoat, C.Johnson

        ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

        CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

        S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

        LS- Hughlett

        K- Coons, Craddock

        P- Lee

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        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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        @thenew23 said:

        Who makes it?

        QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

        Prediction - we only carry 2 QBs; McCown will either be traded or cut at the 53.

        RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

        Winston was Farmer's pet RB, this regime has no attachment to him; Mostert stays for return game

        WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

        Pryor is in as the third QB option (having experienced Hue's system in OAK and Cinci). If Gordon is returned from the abyss, he takes the place of Hartline.

        TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

        Difficult to guess, and probably these guys are merged with the below, and you pick any two behind Barnidge.

        FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

        OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

        OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

        C- Erving, Matthews

        Drango projects inside; Bailey is a swing tackle backup; Pasztor gives extra insurance at RT in a pinch; Matthews is possibly odd man out in numbers game. Starting OL: JT, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, Coleman

        Who's Johnson?

        DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

        We'll keep those three - maybe Hughes goes; the two UDFAs, who knows what'll happen.

        DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

        Hughes probably ends up as an end here

        OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, C.Johnson

        Who's Johnson?

        ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Jeffcoat, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

        Davis and Kirksey to start, Tuggle and Scoobs to back up, and schobert to swing from inside to out.

        CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Caldwell, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

        This group is largely the same as last year.

        S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

        Pryor or Moore will be an interesting battle at FS. I have high hopes for Campbell at SS.

        LS- Hughlett

        K- Coons, Craddock

        P- Lee

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        • TexasAg1969 T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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          No earthy idea but the shakeup of vets continues as a record # of rookies stay. It's just moneyball and cheapest win out when skills or lack thereof are close to the same.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            Don' know, but you have Ogbah listed as an OLB.....I think he will be a DE

            And you have Schobert as an ILB.....I thought he played mostly on the outside.

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            • The GipperT The Gipper

              Don' know, but you have Ogbah listed as an OLB.....I think he will be a DE

              And you have Schobert as an ILB.....I thought he played mostly on the outside.

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              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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              @the-gipper said:

              Don' know, but you have Ogbah listed as an OLB.....I think he will be a DE

              And you have Schobert as an ILB.....I thought he played mostly on the outside.

              Went through this with Zombo, Ogbah will be an OLB in a 3-4.

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                See the roster for further confirmation, they have him listed as LB

                http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/roster.html

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                  QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

                  RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

                  WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

                  TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

                  FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

                  OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

                  OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

                  C- Erving, Matthews

                  DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

                  DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

                  OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, C.Johnson

                  ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Jeffcoat, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

                  CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

                  S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

                  LS- Hughlett
                  K- Coons, Craddock
                  P- Lee

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                  • PoeticG PoeticGP Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                    Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                    Say it ain't so....

                    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                      Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                      Say it ain't so....

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                      Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                      @poeticg said:

                      Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                      Say it ain't so....

                      Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                      Him over Tuggle.

                      Zombo

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                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                        Who makes it?
                        QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler(PS)
                        RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Mostert, Watson(PS)
                        WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins(PS), Louis(PS), Payton.
                        TE- Barnidge, Telfer
                        FB/H-Back- DeValve
                        OT- Thomas, Bailey, S.Coleman
                        OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor C- Erving, Matthews (PS)
                        DT- Shelton, Meder, Lawrence-Stample (PS)
                        DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Nassib
                        OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, Ogbah.
                        ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Jeffcoat (IR), Schobert, Wright, Alexander(PS)
                        CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, J. Taylor.
                        S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred
                        LS- Hughlett
                        K- Not on Roster
                        P- Lee

                        Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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                          @poeticg said:

                          Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                          Say it ain't so....

                          Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                          Him over Tuggle.

                          Zombo

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                          PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                          Him over Tuggle.

                          Zombo

                          Good shit.

                          The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                            PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                            http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2016/05/09/cardinals-were-close-landing-ex-arizona-linebacker-scooby-wright/84138548/

                            How close were the Cardinals to adding former Arizona standout linebacker Scooby Wright to their roster?

                            Oh so close.

                            There were 253 picks in the 2016 NFL draft. Wright was No. 250 selected by Cleveland.

                            Just minutes before the pick, Cardinals coach Bruce Arians was having a conversation with Wright.

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                            “Scooby’s a great blitzer, and I actually had Scooby on the phone, begging him to come with us as a free agent because I think he has something special about him, and the Browns drafted him,” Arians said recently during promotions for the second annual Arians Family Foundation Fundraiser at Steak 44.

                            When Wright got the call from the Browns, he started crying, ran into the backyard of his father’s Santa Rosa, Calif., home and took a flying leap, over a fence and head-first into a pool.

                            The Santa Rosa Press-Democrat reported that Wright was “about to call the Arizona Cardinals and tell them he would accept their free agent offer, almost certain he would go undrafted.”

                            So close.

                            MORE: Stakes raised for Rodriguez, Graham this season

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                            Even though Arizona is my birthplace, the Browns are my home. I'm glad we got Scooby, they got Tyrann a couple years ago, a player I was begging us to get... and we got leon McFadden?

                            The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                            • wargograw W One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                              W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                              Hard to read the posts where you don't include who didn't make it, FYI.

                              Is Jeffcoat really an inside guy now or am I correct that that's a mistake?

                              I have no idea whether Matthews can play guard or not. Knowing that makes those decisions a little easier.

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                                Hard to read the posts where you don't include who didn't make it, FYI.

                                Is Jeffcoat really an inside guy now or am I correct that that's a mistake?

                                I have no idea whether Matthews can play guard or not. Knowing that makes those decisions a little easier.

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                                thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                @wargograw said:

                                Hard to read the posts where you don't include who didn't make it, FYI.

                                Is Jeffcoat really an inside guy now or am I correct that that's a mistake?

                                I have no idea whether Matthews can play guard or not. Knowing that makes those decisions a little easier.

                                Hes OLB. I will fix the OP.

                                Ogbah will be a OLB project, but Nassib will likely gain weight and play end.

                                Schobert projects as a versatile OLB/ILB which will make him very valuable

                                Why all the love for UDFA Matthews? Other than the obvious love for the family ties, we drafted 14 guys... That doesnt leave much room for an undrafted player... Just sayin...

                                Good stuff so far... Wayyyy to early for any of us to even have a clue... About any position, except maybe our punter...

                                #Justsayin'
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                                  thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                  Also, I could see Armonty go back to the 5-tech under Horton. I believe it was Pettine that tried to turn him into a LB. He's more of a nickel DE on passing downs IMHO... No coverage skills

                                  #Justsayin'
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                                    Matthews was first team All-SEC on PFF grades last year, ahead of even Ryan Kelly, and that was under a position coach so bad he was fired after one year.

                                    He also came from an offense that didn't suit his lack of length because we (A&M) use big splits so he's blocking a lot of guys by himself. There's also shorter DTs in college and believe it or not, shorter DTs expose a center's lack of length more than taller ones. As a down blocker and/or double teamer, Matthews is much better. That's what he'll be doing in our (Browns) offense.

                                    For comparison, Patrick Lewis was our last center. He was also 6'1-2", like Mike. He struggled quite a bit with SEC DTs in Sumlin's first year which was Lewis' last year. He too went undrafted but is now a starting center in the NFL.

                                    Plus the jury is definitely out on Erving.

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                                      @poeticg said:

                                      Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

                                      Say it ain't so....

                                      Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                                      Him over Tuggle.

                                      Zombo

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                                      darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                                      Zombo said:

                                      Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                                      Him over Tuggle.

                                      Zombo

                                      I also think Drango lands a spot

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                                        Zombo said:

                                        Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

                                        Him over Tuggle.

                                        Zombo

                                        I also think Drango lands a spot

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                                        Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                        @darren15 said:

                                        I also think Drango lands a spot

                                        Thinking we slip him on the IR for a year and redshirt him, and then next year he is unchained.

                                        Zombo

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                                          @darren15 said:

                                          I also think Drango lands a spot

                                          Thinking we slip him on the IR for a year and redshirt him, and then next year he is unchained.

                                          Zombo

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                                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                          Zombo said:

                                          Thinking we slip him on the IR for a year and redshirt him, and then next year he is unchained.

                                          Zombo

                                          exactly why I stuck with Pasztor on roster this season. Of course, till after next season, when Pasztor will be also unchained as a FA again.

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