Let's Look Seriously at WR
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We had...
Andrew Hawkins
Brian Hartline
Taylor Gabriel
Marlon Moore
Terrelle Pryor
Rannell Hall
Darius Jennings
If we are lucky, we'll have...
Josh Gordon
Corey Coleman
Jordan Payton
Rashard Higgins
Andrew Hawkins
Ricardo Louis
Terrel Pryor
Seth DeValve
That is an amazing turn-around in just a couple weeks. This will be a great group of receivers.
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We had...
Andrew Hawkins
Brian Hartline
Taylor Gabriel
Marlon Moore
Terrelle Pryor
Rannell Hall
Darius Jennings
If we are lucky, we'll have...
Josh Gordon
Corey Coleman
Jordan Payton
Rashard Higgins
Andrew Hawkins
Ricardo Louis
Terrel Pryor
Seth DeValve
That is an amazing turn-around in just a couple weeks. This will be a great group of receivers.
We had...
Andrew Hawkins
Brian Hartline
Taylor Gabriel
Marlon Moore
Terrelle Pryor
Rannell Hall
Darius Jennings
If we are lucky, we'll have...
Josh Gordon
Corey Coleman
Jordan Payton
Rashard Higgins
Andrew Hawkins
Ricardo Louis
Terrel Pryor
Seth DeValve
That is an amazing turn-around in just a couple weeks. This will be a great group of receivers.
Devalve is a TE
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Not only am I not planning on having Gordon back, will he REALLY fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff want? I, for one, seriously doubt it.
Will he stay out of trouble? Learn the playbook? Give 100% on ALL plays? Associate with good people?...I rest my case.
Mike
INÂ DORSEY I TRUST -
Not only am I not planning on having Gordon back, will he REALLY fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff want? I, for one, seriously doubt it.
Will he stay out of trouble? Learn the playbook? Give 100% on ALL plays? Associate with good people?...I rest my case.
Mike
If Gordon is able to play why wouldn't this staff atleast want him on the roster? Not only have we seen his potential. His contract is really cheap. If he messes up then oh well. But we can't just cut him before anything is 100%.Not only am I not planning on having Gordon back, will he REALLY fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff want? I, for one, seriously doubt it.
Will he stay out of trouble? Learn the playbook? Give 100% on ALL plays? Associate with good people?...I rest my case.
Mike
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If Gordon is able to play why wouldn't this staff atleast want him on the roster? Not only have we seen his potential. His contract is really cheap. If he messes up then oh well. But we can't just cut him before anything is 100%.Not only am I not planning on having Gordon back, will he REALLY fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff want? I, for one, seriously doubt it.
Will he stay out of trouble? Learn the playbook? Give 100% on ALL plays? Associate with good people?...I rest my case.
Mike
If Gordon is able to play why wouldn't this staff atleast want him on the roster? Not only have we seen his potential. His contract is really cheap. If he messes up then oh well. But we can't just cut him before anything is 100%.
I did not say cut him, did I? What I DID was question whether or not he would fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff wants...that is, high character players who love the game & will give it their all. I haven't seen that yet from JG, so "we'll see".
Mike
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If Gordon is able to play why wouldn't this staff atleast want him on the roster? Not only have we seen his potential. His contract is really cheap. If he messes up then oh well. But we can't just cut him before anything is 100%.
I did not say cut him, did I? What I DID was question whether or not he would fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff wants...that is, high character players who love the game & will give it their all. I haven't seen that yet from JG, so "we'll see".
Mike
I did not say cut him, did I? What I DID was question whether or not he would fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff wants...that is, high character players who love the game & will give it their all. I haven't seen that yet from JG, so "we'll see".
Mike
Well said Mike! You can't fake passion, especially if a guy keeps choosing marijuana over football. Gordon is always suspended and look no deeper than the company he continues to keep. He recently had another positive test. How many more times do some people need to see history repeat itself with that knucklehead? BTW, the last time we saw a very disinterested Josh Gordon - he joined a 6-4 football team in progress here in 2014. He didn't know the playbook, took plays off, got suspended by the team, and the offense got worse (not better).
This is the only Josh Gordon reality I continue to see: Urine = You're Out!
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If Gordon is able to play why wouldn't this staff atleast want him on the roster? Not only have we seen his potential. His contract is really cheap. If he messes up then oh well. But we can't just cut him before anything is 100%.
I did not say cut him, did I? What I DID was question whether or not he would fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff wants...that is, high character players who love the game & will give it their all. I haven't seen that yet from JG, so "we'll see".
Mike
I did not say cut him, did I? What I DID was question whether or not he would fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff wants...that is, high character players who love the game & will give it their all. I haven't seen that yet from JG, so "we'll see".
Mike
Well they had a bone for RG3 and Kaepernick...
WSS
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I did not say cut him, did I? What I DID was question whether or not he would fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff wants...that is, high character players who love the game & will give it their all. I haven't seen that yet from JG, so "we'll see".
Mike
Well they had a bone for RG3 and Kaepernick...
WSS
Well they had a bone for RG3 and Kaepernick...
WSS
Steve,
While both those guys have to make changes, neither has the baggage JG has. No comparison.
We'll just have to wait & see what happens.
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Well they had a bone for RG3 and Kaepernick...
WSS
Steve,
While both those guys have to make changes, neither has the baggage JG has. No comparison.
We'll just have to wait & see what happens.
Steve,
While both those guys have to make changes, neither has the baggage JG has. No comparison.
We'll just have to wait & see what happens.
Yes there is a difference but I prefer simple stupidity to team cancer.
But both attitudes need to be adjusted.
WSS
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Steve,
While both those guys have to make changes, neither has the baggage JG has. No comparison.
We'll just have to wait & see what happens.
Yes there is a difference but I prefer simple stupidity to team cancer.
But both attitudes need to be adjusted.
WSS
Yes there is a difference but I prefer simple stupidity to team cancer.
But both attitudes need to be adjusted.
WSS
When Kapernick's name came up, I puked in my own mouth and hoped it didn't happen.
Griffin, I welcomed. I believe he's a good guy that went through a humbling experience last year. So far I'm seeing pictures of him with his teammates all over town supporting Cleveland and charities. I've seen the Browns drop down in the draft instead of grabbing a franchise QB.
Grif never bad-mouthed the Redskins, or his coach, once last year. Showed up to every game and was a good teammate.
I think that attitude has already been adjusted.
Zombo
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ALL RG III needs is a QB whisperer. The talent has been there all along. The coaching has not been there in the past. I like our chances.
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Getting a playmaker like Coleman makes a lot of sense, but make no mistake about it, if other rookie WR's have a better rookie season, Hue Jackson and Sashi will immediately be under the fire. Coleman makes sense because he fills the speed void left by Benji, he can be used in a variety of ways (reverses, bubble screens, quick hitch, even the running the ball), and he has obvious big play potential. Something that our team sorely lacks.
Problem is, we could've really used what Treadwell and Doctson brought to the table as well. This was a ballsy pick, and the fans and media won't waste any time before letting Hue and Sashi have it if the other guys blow up. It might not be fair, but you know how it is.
Coaches tend to keep the guys they drafted over the previous holdovers, so I would expect several of the other guys to be cut before long. This will probably happen before the preseason which would give the departed players a chance to catch on with somebody else. Hue has already said he has an affinity for Terrell Pryor, so he'll have every chance to prove he can deliver. Can he run routes? Secure the ball? Run after the catch? Block? Become a red zone target? I like the fact that Hue is an offensive coach, and my HOPE is that Terrell can be more of a TE than a true WR. Remember what Eiffert was in the red zone for the Bengals? Yeah, I'd like about HALF of that from Pryor. He has the physical ability, and perhaps Barnidge can draw attention away from him.
Taylor Gabriel was a tremendous disappointment last season, and this after he showed so much promise his rookie season. He didn't get open, never made the big play, and just didn't get it done. I also believe he had a few killer drops, but I could be mistaken.
Andrew Hawkins wasn't the same either, and I'm not sure if it was because of injuries or what, but he just couldn't recapture the magic. He's small and no spring chicken. I would tab him and Gabriel as the most likely guys to be let go. Both our little guys MUST show something in OTA's in order to make the roster.
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Not only am I not planning on having Gordon back, will he REALLY fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff want? I, for one, seriously doubt it.
Will he stay out of trouble? Learn the playbook? Give 100% on ALL plays? Associate with good people?...I rest my case.
Mike
Not only am I not planning on having Gordon back, will he REALLY fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff want? I, for one, seriously doubt it.
Will he stay out of trouble? Learn the playbook? Give 100% on ALL plays? Associate with good people?...I rest my case.
Mike
What serious thing did Gordon do wrong? Smoke a little weed.
FYI, in my position I punish people for doing weed....at least for possessing it. The consequences? A $75.00 fine.
I Ohio this may even go by the wayside perhaps as soon as next year. Yet the NFL thinks it is so serious that it costs a guy 2 years of his career.
I predict that within a few years the NFL will not even test for pot.
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4 that interest me, other than the obvious ones (alphabetically):
Rashard Higgins
Kenny Lawler
Malcolm Mitchell (could be a late 4th round bargain due to injury history)
Jordan Payton
Mike
4 that interest me, other than the obvious ones (alphabetically):
Rashard Higgins
Kenny Lawler
Malcolm Mitchell (could be a late 4th round bargain due to injury history)
Jordan Payton
Mike
Blimey
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If Gordon is able to play why wouldn't this staff atleast want him on the roster? Not only have we seen his potential. His contract is really cheap. If he messes up then oh well. But we can't just cut him before anything is 100%.
I did not say cut him, did I? What I DID was question whether or not he would fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff wants...that is, high character players who love the game & will give it their all. I haven't seen that yet from JG, so "we'll see".
Mike
I did not say cut him, did I? What I DID was question whether or not he would fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff wants...that is, high character players who love the game & will give it their all. I haven't seen that yet from JG, so "we'll see".
Mike
I didn't say you said that. It doesn't hurt having him on the roster as of now. He is under a cheap contract with a lot of potential. Oh that's our mold? Haha. I wasn't aware that generic response was our mold. That can be said about every team. The only mold I see is they want to play young. Gordon obviously has a problem with staying clean. But we would be fools to give up on him at this moment. That's my opinion.
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Not only am I not planning on having Gordon back, will he REALLY fit the mold of the type player this FO & Coaching staff want? I, for one, seriously doubt it.
Will he stay out of trouble? Learn the playbook? Give 100% on ALL plays? Associate with good people?...I rest my case.
Mike
What serious thing did Gordon do wrong? Smoke a little weed.
FYI, in my position I punish people for doing weed....at least for possessing it. The consequences? A $75.00 fine.
I Ohio this may even go by the wayside perhaps as soon as next year. Yet the NFL thinks it is so serious that it costs a guy 2 years of his career.
I predict that within a few years the NFL will not even test for pot.
What serious thing did Gordon do wrong? Smoke a little weed.
FYI, in my position I punish people for doing weed....at least for possessing it. The consequences? A $75.00 fine.
I Ohio this may even go by the wayside perhaps as soon as next year. Yet the NFL thinks it is so serious that it costs a guy 2 years of his career.
I predict that within a few years the NFL will not even test for pot.
Agreed. These guys already saying he lacks passion for the game. Is a knucklehead. Get red ass because he hangs out with JM. Yet so does Von Miller. And he's a pretty alright player I guess.
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Getting a playmaker like Coleman makes a lot of sense, but make no mistake about it, if other rookie WR's have a better rookie season, Hue Jackson and Sashi will immediately be under the fire. Coleman makes sense because he fills the speed void left by Benji, he can be used in a variety of ways (reverses, bubble screens, quick hitch, even the running the ball), and he has obvious big play potential. Something that our team sorely lacks.
Problem is, we could've really used what Treadwell and Doctson brought to the table as well. This was a ballsy pick, and the fans and media won't waste any time before letting Hue and Sashi have it if the other guys blow up. It might not be fair, but you know how it is.
Coaches tend to keep the guys they drafted over the previous holdovers, so I would expect several of the other guys to be cut before long. This will probably happen before the preseason which would give the departed players a chance to catch on with somebody else. Hue has already said he has an affinity for Terrell Pryor, so he'll have every chance to prove he can deliver. Can he run routes? Secure the ball? Run after the catch? Block? Become a red zone target? I like the fact that Hue is an offensive coach, and my HOPE is that Terrell can be more of a TE than a true WR. Remember what Eiffert was in the red zone for the Bengals? Yeah, I'd like about HALF of that from Pryor. He has the physical ability, and perhaps Barnidge can draw attention away from him.
Taylor Gabriel was a tremendous disappointment last season, and this after he showed so much promise his rookie season. He didn't get open, never made the big play, and just didn't get it done. I also believe he had a few killer drops, but I could be mistaken.
Andrew Hawkins wasn't the same either, and I'm not sure if it was because of injuries or what, but he just couldn't recapture the magic. He's small and no spring chicken. I would tab him and Gabriel as the most likely guys to be let go. Both our little guys MUST show something in OTA's in order to make the roster.
Also agree... or at least hope Gip is right about the continued move towards legalization.
One thing that has emerged is player use of THC as an aid in their weekly recovery from game days' inevitable sprains and pains.
Taylor Gabriel was a tremendous disappointment last season, and this after he showed so much promise his rookie season. He didn't get open, never made the big play, and just didn't get it done. I also believe he had a few killer drops, but I could be mistaken.Andrew Hawkins wasn't the same either, and I'm not sure if it was because of injuries or what, but he just couldn't recapture the magic. He's small and no spring chicken. I would tab him and Gabriel as the most likely guys to be let go. Both our little guys MUST show something in OTA's in order to make the roster.
Not sure about Gabe... feel he is simply not the talent we had believed, but I think Hawk really missed a #1 WR, which in 2014 was Miles Austin by default. Plus Hawk was the kind of quick, precise, short-area WR Hoyer needed to be effective.
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Garbriel - poor man's andrew hawkins. Keep one, but not both. I'm guessing he ends up odd man out (one of many probably) when it comes to roster cuts. Too many shifty slot guys around to keep him as well.
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Hawkins over Gabriel. Don't know if we keep both Hawk and Hartline ... if there is a lot of growth with Pryor, one of them is probably gone as well.
1. Coleman
2. Hartline 3. Hawkins 4. Gabriel
5. Moore 6. Pryor
7. Louis 8. Payton 9. Higgins
If we keep six then I need to cut one of row 2, one of row 3, and one of row four goes to IR or practice squad
1. Coleman
2. Hartline 3. Hawkins 4 Gabriel
4. Moore 5 Pryor
5. Louis 6. Payton 9 Higgins
Jennings in the mix too. I am keeping Moore for special teams, and he was OK as a receiver when he played too. Now if Pryor comes on, that would seemingly be curtains for another veteran, Hartline or Hawkins.
If we keep all the rookies and everyone stays healthy, it is a crowded house, perhaps only two veterans (rows 2 and 3) survive.
Z
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If I do the same as you Zombo, I put Pryor and Hartline in the same category, and probably Moore with Louis (who could be a good return guy).
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