Kessler
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They look like a fine couple - I hope RGlll has a great career with the Browns.
He's overcome arrogance, here's to hoping he overcomes "seeing the field" if that
was the actual problem.
They look like a fine couple - I hope RGlll has a great career with the Browns.
He's overcome arrogance, here's to hoping he overcomes "seeing the field" if that
was the actual problem.
He'll be in the Cleveland Clinic in Traction by game 3......
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He'll be in the Cleveland Clinic in Traction by game 3......
Maybe I have a little PoG in me right now, but I think RG3 is going to play well this year. Between the chip on his shoulders and a coaching staff that I fully expect to put him in the best possible position to succeed, I firmly believe there are going to be a lot of surprised people around the football world, and a lot on this forum.
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If, in fact, humility was his only problem I guess if he can get past that, success shouldn't be out of the question.
That seems like it could be a pretty high hurdle if the Redskins hated him so badly that they potentially put their success at risk by not allowing him to play.
Perhaps the prospect of a career putting groceries in bags at the Winn-Dixie was enough to bring about the epiphany.
I haven't been his fan ever since the Browns were considering giving up a huge ransom for him but if he's turning the corner and is now a good guy who can play football I'll be the first one to forgive him. Well maybe not the first but you know...
WSS
If, in fact, humility was his only problem I guess if he can get past that, success shouldn't be out of the question.
That seems like it could be a pretty high hurdle if the Redskins hated him so badly that they potentially put their success at risk by not allowing him to play.
Perhaps the prospect of a career putting groceries in bags at the Winn-Dixie was enough to bring about the epiphany.
I haven't been his fan ever since the Browns were considering giving up a huge ransom for him but if he's turning the corner and is now a good guy who can play football I'll be the first one to forgive him. Well maybe not the first but you know...
WSS
Steve, judgement reserved on RG III- show me.
Now regarding why Griffin got benched last year- IIRC if the Redskins put him in a game, and he got injured- they would have had to keep him on the roster until cleared to play. If that had dragged out into the new league year, they would have been out $16 million this year.
That might have been the major reason, but probably not the only reason.http://nypost.com/2015/08/31/redskins-demote-rg3-until-more-drastic-action-can-be-taken/
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From what I've read- that's RG IIIs issue. Plenty of physical talent- but his skill at reading a defense- is, shall we say- lacking. Better learn how to duck too. One more shot on that twice repaired knee will be his last.
Really interesting segment on NFL Live yesterday about RG3 and how he came back year 2 in WSH so full of himself that he called a meeting with the Shannies and told them what changes he wanted in the Offense.
Then when things subsequently went south, how he refused all help trying to get him and the Offense back on track.
If he has been humbled and/or Hue has broken through, then maybe, just maybe, there's a chance he and we see some success.
Really interesting segment on NFL Live yesterday about RG3 and how he came back year 2 in WSH so full of himself that he called a meeting with the Shannies and told them what changes he wanted in the Offense.
Then when things subsequently went south, how he refused all help trying to get him and the Offense back on track.
If he has been humbled and/or Hue has broken through, then maybe, just maybe, there's a chance he and we see some success.
Here's a long, but well-written article that covers the above. Since most won't make it to the end, here's a couple late paragraphs projecting into one of our possible futures...
Once the competition ramps up in training camp, though, Jackson will soon learn that Griffin lacks the pocket presence necessary to protect himself. Think about it: Despite having the full support of the team owner, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2012 draft failed under two head coaches and didn’t appear in a game last year despite being healthy. If Griffin could have still done the job, that wouldn’t have happened.
“He’s just not very good in the pocket,” said a veteran Washington defensive player who requested anonymity. “When you asked him to sit back there and read defenses and dissect things, you could tell it was difficult on him. You could even tell in practice last season, when he was the scout team quarterback going against the first-string defense, it was still moving kind of fast for him. He wasn’t sure where the rush was coming from. He wasn’t quite sure where they [the safeties] were. It’s gonna be hard for him.”
http://theundefeated.com/features/the-puzzling-plummet-of-rgiii/
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Really interesting segment on NFL Live yesterday about RG3 and how he came back year 2 in WSH so full of himself that he called a meeting with the Shannies and told them what changes he wanted in the Offense.
Then when things subsequently went south, how he refused all help trying to get him and the Offense back on track.
If he has been humbled and/or Hue has broken through, then maybe, just maybe, there's a chance he and we see some success.
Here's a long, but well-written article that covers the above. Since most won't make it to the end, here's a couple late paragraphs projecting into one of our possible futures...
Once the competition ramps up in training camp, though, Jackson will soon learn that Griffin lacks the pocket presence necessary to protect himself. Think about it: Despite having the full support of the team owner, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2012 draft failed under two head coaches and didn’t appear in a game last year despite being healthy. If Griffin could have still done the job, that wouldn’t have happened.
“He’s just not very good in the pocket,” said a veteran Washington defensive player who requested anonymity. “When you asked him to sit back there and read defenses and dissect things, you could tell it was difficult on him. You could even tell in practice last season, when he was the scout team quarterback going against the first-string defense, it was still moving kind of fast for him. He wasn’t sure where the rush was coming from. He wasn’t quite sure where they [the safeties] were. It’s gonna be hard for him.”
http://theundefeated.com/features/the-puzzling-plummet-of-rgiii/
Here's a long, but well-written article that covers the above. Since most won't make it to the end, here's a couple late paragraphs projecting into one of our possible futures...
Once the competition ramps up in training camp, though, Jackson will soon learn that Griffin lacks the pocket presence necessary to protect himself. Think about it: Despite having the full support of the team owner, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2012 draft failed under two head coaches and didn’t appear in a game last year despite being healthy. If Griffin could have still done the job, that wouldn’t have happened.
“He’s just not very good in the pocket,” said a veteran Washington defensive player who requested anonymity. “When you asked him to sit back there and read defenses and dissect things, you could tell it was difficult on him. You could even tell in practice last season, when he was the scout team quarterback going against the first-string defense, it was still moving kind of fast for him. He wasn’t sure where the rush was coming from. He wasn’t quite sure where they [the safeties] were. It’s gonna be hard for him.”
http://theundefeated.com/features/the-puzzling-plummet-of-rgiii/
Good article Tour. It's part of my concerns about RG III also. If you can't read a defense- it's going to be sooner rather than later that we see Kessler in action. Unless Hue wants to use McCown as the backup pinata this year. Fer sure, we're not keeping 5 quarterbacks on the roster, I won't speculate at this point who's getting shown the door.
That wasn't the only article I've read detailing the reasons why Griffin got benched in favor of Cousins. Humility may be great- but I'm not sure deciding to be coachable is going to be enough to turn his career around. Robert has one thing going for him- fan expectations for this season couldn't be much lower.
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Mousy. Decent rack, but mousy.
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Er am gerd. I'd smell a mile of her shit just to get a peek at the butthole.
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Lol!
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You wouldn't know what to do Gip, you'd throw a hip.
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You wouldn't know what to do Gip, you'd throw a hip.
I would give it the old college try.
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Here's a long, but well-written article that covers the above. Since most won't make it to the end, here's a couple late paragraphs projecting into one of our possible futures...
Once the competition ramps up in training camp, though, Jackson will soon learn that Griffin lacks the pocket presence necessary to protect himself. Think about it: Despite having the full support of the team owner, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2012 draft failed under two head coaches and didn’t appear in a game last year despite being healthy. If Griffin could have still done the job, that wouldn’t have happened.
“He’s just not very good in the pocket,” said a veteran Washington defensive player who requested anonymity. “When you asked him to sit back there and read defenses and dissect things, you could tell it was difficult on him. You could even tell in practice last season, when he was the scout team quarterback going against the first-string defense, it was still moving kind of fast for him. He wasn’t sure where the rush was coming from. He wasn’t quite sure where they [the safeties] were. It’s gonna be hard for him.”
http://theundefeated.com/features/the-puzzling-plummet-of-rgiii/
Good article Tour. It's part of my concerns about RG III also. If you can't read a defense- it's going to be sooner rather than later that we see Kessler in action. Unless Hue wants to use McCown as the backup pinata this year. Fer sure, we're not keeping 5 quarterbacks on the roster, I won't speculate at this point who's getting shown the door.
That wasn't the only article I've read detailing the reasons why Griffin got benched in favor of Cousins. Humility may be great- but I'm not sure deciding to be coachable is going to be enough to turn his career around. Robert has one thing going for him- fan expectations for this season couldn't be much lower.
Good article Tour. It's part of my concerns about RG III also. If you can't read a defense- it's going to be sooner rather than later that we see Kessler in action. Unless Hue wants to use McCown as the backup pinata this year. Fer sure, we're not keeping 5 quarterbacks on the roster, I won't speculate at this point who's getting shown the door.
That wasn't the only article I've read detailing the reasons why Griffin got benched in favor of Cousins. Humility may be great- but I'm not sure deciding to be coachable is going to be enough to turn his career around. Robert has one thing going for him- fan expectations for this season couldn't be much lower.
I think a lot of folks forget that lil Gruden preceded Hue as Cinci's OC and oversaw a good chunk of Dalton's development before going to WSH and deciding that franchise's QB future.
That Hue had Andy on a path to his best season is undeniable, but how much was due to coaching him up vs. play design and calling is debatable. Play simplification and the judicious use of the read option certainly helped propel 2015.
The above certainly promotes the hope that Hue can wring more production out of RG3 than Jay did, but the source of that production would likely be a result of play calling. It is not as if the Shannies and Gruden were not coaching Defense reading these past 4 years.
Just as I argued for Goff vs. the rest of the 2016 QB class, that Jared had the "sight" was obvious. Those that drooled over others' physicality, others who did not display the "sight", seemed to all assume that coaching would produce it. It just doesn't reliably do so. Coaching can enhance it... refine it... but it just doesn't bring it into being from nothing... not often anyway.
That in 4 years of pro coaching RG3 has not gained the sight does not bode well for it happening now.
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Good article Tour. It's part of my concerns about RG III also. If you can't read a defense- it's going to be sooner rather than later that we see Kessler in action. Unless Hue wants to use McCown as the backup pinata this year. Fer sure, we're not keeping 5 quarterbacks on the roster, I won't speculate at this point who's getting shown the door.
That wasn't the only article I've read detailing the reasons why Griffin got benched in favor of Cousins. Humility may be great- but I'm not sure deciding to be coachable is going to be enough to turn his career around. Robert has one thing going for him- fan expectations for this season couldn't be much lower.
I think a lot of folks forget that lil Gruden preceded Hue as Cinci's OC and oversaw a good chunk of Dalton's development before going to WSH and deciding that franchise's QB future.
That Hue had Andy on a path to his best season is undeniable, but how much was due to coaching him up vs. play design and calling is debatable. Play simplification and the judicious use of the read option certainly helped propel 2015.
The above certainly promotes the hope that Hue can wring more production out of RG3 than Jay did, but the source of that production would likely be a result of play calling. It is not as if the Shannies and Gruden were not coaching Defense reading these past 4 years.
Just as I argued for Goff vs. the rest of the 2016 QB class, that Jared had the "sight" was obvious. Those that drooled over others' physicality, others who did not display the "sight", seemed to all assume that coaching would produce it. It just doesn't reliably do so. Coaching can enhance it... refine it... but it just doesn't bring it into being from nothing... not often anyway.
That in 4 years of pro coaching RG3 has not gained the sight does not bode well for it happening now.
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If RG3 is a dumpster fire, we will know it early on and the team will have the draft currency to move up and get their guy next year. Hue may be happy with Kessler by then and moving up won't have to happen.
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Who cares if RG3 sucks? If he does, we see Kessler and/or get the guy we want next year. It's a win-win.
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