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(Mentally Ill?) Gun Rights Activist Shoots Daughters

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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-mother-killed-cops-fatally-shooting-daughters-article-1.2687929

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/shock-texas-police-kill-mom-shot-two-adult-daughters-christy-sheats/

    "It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself or my family were to be taken away, but that's exactly what Democrats are determined to do by banning semi-automatic handguns."

    We can all appreciate irony, right?

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    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-mother-killed-cops-fatally-shooting-daughters-article-1.2687929

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/shock-texas-police-kill-mom-shot-two-adult-daughters-christy-sheats/

    "It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself or my family were to be taken away, but that's exactly what Democrats are determined to do by banning semi-automatic handguns."

    We can all appreciate irony, right?

    If nutty mom had stabbed them to death in their sleep would that have been preferable? I mean, one of those evil guns wouldn't have been involved. That would be the saving grace.

    Exceptions do not make the rules. Situations like this are highly irregular or it wouldn't be sensational enough for the news to cover it.

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      So if she did have a history of mental illness it is perfectly acceptable for her to have access to guns in the home?

      She didn't murder them in their sleep. A family argument erupted and she grabbed a gun and started to shoot as they ran away. If she grabbed a knife we probably wouldn't have three dead.

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

        So if she did have a history of mental illness it is perfectly acceptable for her to have access to guns in the home?

        She didn't murder them in their sleep. A family argument erupted and she grabbed a gun and started to shoot as they ran away. If she grabbed a knife we probably wouldn't have three dead.

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        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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        @mld-woody said:

        So if she did have a history of mental illness it is perfectly acceptable for her to have access to guns in the home?

        She didn't murder them in their sleep. A family argument erupted and she grabbed a gun and started to shoot as they ran away. If she grabbed a knife we probably wouldn't have three dead.

        Did I miss something? Because I don't recall in either story that a history of mental illness was involved.

        So hypothetically, no. If she has a history of mental illness than she lied on the background check to get the firearms. An argument can be made that HIPAA laws need to be changed to accommodate for having immediate access to mental health records during a background check.

        If the police had charged her with a domestic disturbance charge during one of the many visits they would have legally been able to relieve her of any firearms in the home and it would red flagged during any background checks.

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          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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          Again, events like this are rare.

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            the woman acted completely out of character, at least the character that

            loved and cherished her daughters.

            Not all people with significant mental health problems... are

            officially identified as such.

            Going afterr 200 million gun owners to try to stop this rare madness, is stupid.

            A cop or two have been found to murder...

            Mental health problems that never surfaced violently before, drugs, alcohol, who knows.

            Suppose she arsoned her house down and murdered her daughters that way?

            Would anybody support banning flammable liquids? Matches? wooden homes? torches?

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              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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              Has anybody with mental illness actually checked that box on their firearm application, I don't think so

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                There is something about the privacy of someone who has been in some

                psych ward/officially designated as having a mental disorder....

                and having that put on a list of "can't buy guns, etc" list.

                http://csgv.org/issues/guns-and-mental-health/

                and one more time - there is NO GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE where gun shows don't use

                background checks on gun purchases.

                All licenses gun dealers are required to send info in to the background check system before any

                gun purchase can be approved.

                The exception is, there are a few private gun owners, who sell a couple of their guns at those shows, at least

                there used to be. I don't believe they have to use the background check system.

                I believe private sales should happen outside of gun shows. But, I don't believe in forcing a couple hundred million

                people who go through the background check system every time they pass on their guns to their heirs.

                That would require a national registration system to track all that - and that is just the system that a gov

                needs to take all guns, one way, or another - as in, through the courts or through raising the price of gun

                ownership up so high, that no one can afford to keep them anymore. And surely no one believes that the left

                hasn't earned the reputation for ulterior motives with their "gun control" agenda. The left isn't denying it anymore.

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                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                  Sure you're required to transfer through a FFL dealer even for private sales, but I don't know how you could stop people from doing handshake cash deals regardless.

                  Unless you want to register every gun serial number and owner in a database and make sure it's more like the process of a car title, but you'd never get that by the NRA. And what could you do about the hundreds of millions of guns already in the US - not much.

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                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                    Yeah but how hot was the one daughter?

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                    • C Clevfan4life

                      Yeah but how hot was the one daughter?

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                      T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      Yeah but how hot was the one daughter?

                      Not as hot as you're going on like

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                        https://s3.amazonaws.com/everipedia-storage/NewlinkFiles/901943/e251b9f8-c/Screen%20Shot%202016-06-25%20at%203.20.34%20PM.png
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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          You sure?

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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                            https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/christy-sheats-8.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

                            No smash?

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                              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                              They're tragically dead you dumb fuck, have some respect.

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                                https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/christy-sheats-8.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

                                No smash?

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                                bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/christy-sheats-8.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

                                No smash?

                                http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/27/people-are-losing-their-minds-over-trumpgirlsbreaktheinternet/

                                Fap to this instead

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                                • bbedwardB bbedward

                                  They're tragically dead you dumb fuck, have some respect.

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                                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                  @bbedward said:

                                  They're tragically dead you dumb fuck, have some respect.

                                  Oh nnoooowww its too soon. No lectures from anyone on this board of degenerates when it comes to ehat is "too soon". You PC libtard you.....?

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                                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                    And dont act like you wouldnt have smashed. See how i put that past tense to show respect?

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                                      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                                      Shit like this will always happen no matter what you do.

                                      :neutral_face:
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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        *shrug emoji* and move on? Brilliant.

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                          http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

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