Browns lose Desmond Bryant for the season
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Still think it's a huge loss, especially from leadership position. Not only that, we're going to be depending an awful lot on rookies and second year players. Ugh.
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With this loss, maybe one of the defensive rookies will be slotted in to fill that spot,
LB, D. Alexander
DL, N. Stample
DL, C. Nassib
LB, E. Ogbah
DL, K. Rose
LB, J. Schobert
LB, S. Wright
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Looks like Nassib is getting a lot more reps than he was supposed to. Cooper as well.
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While I regret his loss, it's also a great OPPORTUNITY for one of our young players to step up. It will be interesting to see who will. I do think we have talent there.
Mike
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I was under some impression that Bryant's job may have been on the line anyway....from just his own basically mediocre play...and from the competition he was to face.
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I was under some impression that Bryant's job may have been on the line anyway....from just his own basically mediocre play...and from the competition he was to face.
I was under some impression that Bryant's job may have been on the line anyway....from just his own basically mediocre play...and from the competition he was to face.
He led the team in sacks last year. While not exactly all-pro, 6 sacks for an interior DL is a pretty decent return.
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While I regret his loss, it's also a great OPPORTUNITY for one of our young players to step up. It will be interesting to see who will. I do think we have talent there.
Mike
While I regret his loss, it's also a great OPPORTUNITY for one of our young players to step up. It will be interesting to see who will. I do think we have talent there.
Mike
Ya, this is not good news, but it is opportunity. Young guys put on the fast track. Nassib is next man up, if he is not NFL ready we are going to see a lot of John Hughes.
Zombo
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Wouldn't shock me to see him cut, if it's even vaguely favourable. Missing this year, he'll come in to next season as a 31 year old, coming off of a lost year and making $7m, only $1m of which is guaranteed.
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I was under some impression that Bryant's job may have been on the line anyway....from just his own basically mediocre play...and from the competition he was to face.
He led the team in sacks last year. While not exactly all-pro, 6 sacks for an interior DL is a pretty decent return.
He led the team in sacks last year. While not exactly all-pro, 6 sacks for an interior DL is a pretty decent return.
Except, correct me if I am wrong, DB is a DE, not on interior DL. That still may be a decent return....
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Wouldn't shock me to see him cut, if it's even vaguely favourable. Missing this year, he'll come in to next season as a 31 year old, coming off of a lost year and making $7m, only $1m of which is guaranteed.
Wouldn't shock me to see him cut, if it's even vaguely favourable. Missing this year, he'll come in to next season as a 31 year old, coming off of a lost year and making $7m, only $1m of which is guaranteed.
I don't think they can cut him if he goes on IR. They will have to continue to pay him.
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Except, correct me if I am wrong, DB is a DE, not on interior DL. That still may be a decent return....
He's not a primary pass rusher in the team, which is the job of the OLBs.
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Except, correct me if I am wrong, DB is a DE, not on interior DL. That still may be a decent return....
He's not a primary pass rusher in the team, which is the job of the OLBs.
He's not a primary pass rusher in the team, which is the job of the OLBs.
The greatest pass rushers in history were DEs. Deacon Jones, Carl Eller, Michael Strahan, Bruce Smith. Some guys were like combo guys.....like MDP and JJ Watt.
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Except, correct me if I am wrong, DB is a DE, not on interior DL. That still may be a decent return....
Playing a 3spot is most certainly interior dline.
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The greatest pass rushers in history were DEs. Deacon Jones, Carl Eller, Michael Strahan, Bruce Smith. Some guys were like combo guys.....like MDP and JJ Watt.
Having this conversation yet again is tedious. How long have you been a football fan and you don't know this?
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The greatest pass rushers in history were DEs. Deacon Jones, Carl Eller, Michael Strahan, Bruce Smith. Some guys were like combo guys.....like MDP and JJ Watt.
Having this conversation yet again is tedious. How long have you been a football fan and you don't know this?
Having this conversation yet again is tedious. How long have you been a football fan and you don't know this?
Don't be stupid. Defensive Ends rush the passer. It is a primary requirement of the position.
If you are a fucking defensive end you rush the fucking passer. What is it about that YOU don't fucking understand?
I don't care if it is a fucking 4-3 or a 3-4....that is what DEs do. I have known this since like 1960. Do you not yet know this simple fact about football?
Do OLBs ALSO have responsibility to rush the passer? Certainly.
But look at this list of the 25 career leaders in sacks.
1Bruce Smith200.01985-20032TM
2Reggie White198.01985-20003TM
3Kevin Greene160.01985-19994TM
4Chris Doleman150.51985-19993TM
5Michael Strahan141.51993-2007nyg
6Jason Taylor139.51997-20113TM
7Richard Dent137.51983-19974TM
John Randle137.51990-20032TM
9Julius Peppers136.02002-20153TM
Jared Allen136.02004-20154TM11
DeMarcus Ware134.52005-20152TM
12John Abraham133.52000-20143TM
13Lawrence Taylor132.51981-1993nyg
Leslie O'Neal132.51986-19993TM
15Rickey Jackson128.01981-19952TM
16Derrick Thomas126.51989-1999kan
17Simeon Rice122.01996-20074TM
18Clyde Simmons121.51986-20005TM
19Dwight Freeney119.52002-20153TM
20Robert Mathis118.02003-2015clt
21Sean Jones113.01984-19963TM
22Greg Townsend109.51983-19972TM
23Pat Swilling107.51986-19983TM
24Terrell Suggs106.52003-2015rav
25Trace Armstrong106.01989-20033TM2
2/3rds to 3/4ths are guys that played the DE position. This just since 1982 when the stat was created. Guys like Jones and Eller don't actually show up here.
Same here:
1 Clay Matthews 1978 1993 232 ROLB 124 14 205 1 36 0 24 1 13 29 1 62.0 1430 0
2 Michael Dean Perry 1988 1994 109 RDT 78 10 0 7 14 1 51.5 470 10
3 Rob Burnett 1990 1995 93 LDE 44 2 0 7 9 0 40.5 305 28
4 Carl Hairston 1984 1989 92 RDE 41 0 0 3 0 0 37.5
5 Reggie Camp 1983 1987 70 LDE 32 0 0 2 0 0 35.0
6 Anthony Pleasant 1990 1995 94 RDE 37 9 0 1 4 0 33.5 273 24 1
7 Chip Banks 1982 1986 73 LOLB 55 5 117 1 65 0 0 0 6 17 0 27.5
8 Kamerion Wimbley 2006 2009 63 ROLB 29 1 2 0 2 4 6 0 3 1 0 26.5 183 65
9 Jabaal Sheard 2011 2014 61 DE 29 0 0 0 0 12 7 0 2 5 0 23.0 122 68
10 Kenard Lang 2002 2005 62 LDE 28 2 71 0 71 8 3 0 1 8 0 22.5 155 53
11 Jamir Miller 1999 2001 47 LLB 28 2 0 0 0 14 4 0 0 0 0 22.5 238 62
12 Paul Kruger 2013 2015 48 DE 21 0 0 0 0 9 6 0 1 0 0 18.0 78 49
13 Courtney Brown 2000 2004 47 LDE 24 0 0 0 0 8 6 0 6 26 1 17.0 135 35
8 of Browns top 13 sackers have been DEs. 4 have been OLBs.....one was a DT.
So, tell me again how it is that you have rewritten the history of football by putting primary emphasis for pass rushing on LBs and not on DEs?
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This sucks!
There's an article out there. Maybe there's a relationship between the strength coach and pec injuries. Sometimes when the weight is simply too much for the body.
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All those stats from Gip leads me to believe he needs to get out and play football at some level to understand the differences in position play with respect to name.
If we must be technical Mr 'no difference between 43 34' your classic LE is actually your primary run stopper to the outside. Again this is in a pure traditional sense as most teams put their greatest value in their RE being a blind side pass rusher being most QB's are right handed. Ergo the premium price tag on LT's compared to Right.
You need to get out of the 60's mindset (when DE's were still run stoppers first and foremost - so piss poor example) out of your Madden mindset and set foot on a real field.
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This sucks!
There's an article out there. Maybe there's a relationship between the strength coach and pec injuries. Sometimes when the weight is simply too much for the body.
This sucks!
There's an article out there. Maybe there's a relationship between the strength coach and pec injuries. Sometimes when the weight is simply too much for the body.
This really bites! Des was to be looked at as one of the much needed leaders of a young defensive front 7. Your attached article is truly worry-some. Ogbah (still our best drafted DE not at LB), Nassib & Stample will give J.Hughes & X Cooper a run, but god just did not make enough long armed DE's in this world. Sashi may have to go shopping before the camp injuries really start..
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3-4 DEs are interior players. PFF grades them along with DTs and they grade 3-4 OLBs along with 4-3 DEs simply as "EDGE."
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