Deserving of HOF
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Kurt Warner? Where is he?Here in order of the CA production average are the Top 30 Football players who are not yet in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I am sure we have done this before....so what. We do it again about once a year. Some of these are not yet eligible...but I include all. Who gets in, who stays out:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Brett Favre
3. Tom Brady
4. Ray Lewis
5. Drew Brees
6. Julius Peppers
7. Terrell Owens
8. Jim Marshall
9. Michael Strahan
10. Randy Moss
11. Marvin Harrison
12. Ken Anderson
13. Jason Taylor
14. Charles Woodson
15. LaDanian Tomlinson
16. Reggie Wayne
17. Kevin Mawae
18. Jeff Saturday
19. Zach Thomas
20. Champ Bailey
21. Ronde Barber
22. Phillip Rivers
23. Brian Urlacher
24. Tony Gonzales
25. Alan Faneca
26. Ben Roethlisberger
27. John Hadl
28. Vinny Testaverde
29. London Fletcher
30. Steve Wisniewski
Who should be in, who should be out?
One Post From the Truth said:
Kurt Warner? Where is he?
You ask an excellent question. While I have listed the top players in the pfr career production average.....that single stat, though it somewhat tries to be that, is NOT the be all and end all of things. Warner is actually way down on the CA.....because he had a somewhat short career....12 seasons. Compare to like Vinny T.....who had a very long career....and productive in terms of his total numbers...be that CA or completions/yards/TDs etc. But no one, I believe, would put him into the HOF over Warner whose stats are much, much lower than Vinny's.
So, I guess what I am saying is that my original post didn't ask....are these ALL of the players that warrant future HOF consideration.....it is just a specific list of players.....there are others.
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Kurt Warner? Where is he?Here in order of the CA production average are the Top 30 Football players who are not yet in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I am sure we have done this before....so what. We do it again about once a year. Some of these are not yet eligible...but I include all. Who gets in, who stays out:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Brett Favre
3. Tom Brady
4. Ray Lewis
5. Drew Brees
6. Julius Peppers
7. Terrell Owens
8. Jim Marshall
9. Michael Strahan
10. Randy Moss
11. Marvin Harrison
12. Ken Anderson
13. Jason Taylor
14. Charles Woodson
15. LaDanian Tomlinson
16. Reggie Wayne
17. Kevin Mawae
18. Jeff Saturday
19. Zach Thomas
20. Champ Bailey
21. Ronde Barber
22. Phillip Rivers
23. Brian Urlacher
24. Tony Gonzales
25. Alan Faneca
26. Ben Roethlisberger
27. John Hadl
28. Vinny Testaverde
29. London Fletcher
30. Steve Wisniewski
Who should be in, who should be out?
One Post From the Truth said:
Kurt Warner? Where is he?
Not in yet...see Zombo's post....but note......Favre and Marvin Harrison should be taken off that list above....as they have been elected...just not inducted.
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Warner is not in the Hall yet. His greatness was confined to shorter career with some mediocrity (Giants) in the middle, so he is a good example of someone who most definitely belongs in the Hall but doesn't top any numbers list.
If it was the Hall of Numbers, then Kenny Anderson would be in and Joe Namath would be out ... but is the Hall of Fame.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Warner is not in the Hall yet. His greatness was confined to shorter career with some mediocrity (Giants) in the middle, so he is a good example of someone who most definitely belongs in the Hall but doesn't top any numbers list.
Damn premonitions... swear I have an image of him in a gold blazer giving an inductance speech.
Maybe it was for the Arena HoF...
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Here is a list of first time eligible players that will be up for the 2017 HOF Class:
Brian Dawkins DB
Tommie Harris DL
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco) WR
Larry Johnson RB
Thomas Jones RB
Olin Kreutz OL
Matt Light OL
Derrick Mason WR
Donovan McNabb QB
Joey Porter LB
Bob Sanders DB
Jeremy Shockey TE
Jason Taylor DE
LaDanian Tomlinson RB
Whines Hard WR
Ricky Williams RB
LDT, to me is the only Nicollete Sheridan in this bunch. The interesting one will be Donovan McNabb.
And besides Warner, here are some other current eligibles who may also be highly considered:
Isaac Bruce
Tori Holt
John Lynch
Terrell Davis.
Morten Anderson
T.O.
Kevin Mawae
Edgerrin James
Faneca
Joe Jacoby
Steve Atwater
Who among these will/should make it?
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I have been waiting for 2 Defensive players to be elected in. One famous Nose Tackle is long over due, N.Y. JETS, #73 Joe Klecko, and our very own BROWNS LB, #57 Clay Matthews, clay should go in for a team record holder, and for longevity and years of service.
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I have been waiting for 2 Defensive players to be elected in. One famous Nose Tackle is long over due, N.Y. JETS, #73 Joe Klecko, and our very own BROWNS LB, #57 Clay Matthews, clay should go in for a team record holder, and for longevity and years of service.
I have been waiting for 2 Defensive players to be elected in. One famous Nose Tackle is long over due, N.Y. JETS, #73 Joe Klecko, and our very own BROWNS LB, #57 Clay Matthews, clay should go in for a team record holder, and for longevity and years of service.
Problem is that neither of those guys have even made the Finalist list any time lately. While Clay was one of 108 semifinalists, Klecko didn't even make that.
http://www.profootballhof.com/108-modern-era-nominees-announced-for-class-of-2016/
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I have a major beef with the committee who finalizes the induction into the H.O.F. I want to know why after being retired for 33 yrs, and now has passed away, Raiders QB Ken Stabler is inducted? I want to know why he is selected this year and not years ago? I feel the committee has a ignorance toward Stabler, and that's why he was always left out, but now that he passed away, oh we feel its time to put him in. BULL SHIT.
The man's records haven't changed since 1982.
I feel he has been selected in now only because he is passed.
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Here is a list of first time eligible players that will be up for the 2017 HOF Class:
Brian Dawkins DB
Tommie Harris DL
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco) WR
Larry Johnson RB
Thomas Jones RB
Olin Kreutz OL
Matt Light OL
Derrick Mason WR
Donovan McNabb QB
Joey Porter LB
Bob Sanders DB
Jeremy Shockey TE
Jason Taylor DE
LaDanian Tomlinson RB
Whines Hard WR
Ricky Williams RB
LDT, to me is the only Nicollete Sheridan in this bunch. The interesting one will be Donovan McNabb.
And besides Warner, here are some other current eligibles who may also be highly considered:
Isaac Bruce
Tori Holt
John Lynch
Terrell Davis.
Morten Anderson
T.O.
Kevin Mawae
Edgerrin James
Faneca
Joe Jacoby
Steve Atwater
Who among these will/should make it?
Here is a list of first time eligible players that will be up for the 2017 HOF Class:
Brian Dawkins DB
Tommie Harris DL
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco) WR
Larry Johnson RB
Thomas Jones RB
Olin Kreutz OL
Matt Light OL
Derrick Mason WR
Donovan McNabb QB
Joey Porter LB
Bob Sanders DB
Jeremy Shockey TE
Jason Taylor DE
LaDanian Tomlinson RB
Whines Hard WR
Ricky Williams RB
LDT, to me is the only Nicollete Sheridan in this bunch. The interesting one will be Donovan McNabb.
And besides Warner, here are some other current eligibles who may also be highly considered:
Isaac Bruce
Tori Holt
John Lynch
Terrell Davis.
Morten Anderson
T.O.
Kevin Mawae
Edgerrin James
Faneca
Joe Jacoby
Steve Atwater
Who among these will/should make it?
Hines Ward should.
Has the stats. 2 X Super Bowl winner, 4 X Pro Bowler (3x second team), SB MVP.
What puts him over the top is that no one has ever played the position like he has. Wasn't the prototype WR. Never took a play off, always looking to find someones head to knock off.
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At 2:24 in the am? Drink some more Stink Face.
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One Post From the Truth said:
At 2:24 in the am? Drink some more Stink Face.
Recall the other night you asking your wife where the fuck she was at 2AM? I was up because I just finished with her.
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One Post From the Truth said:
At 2:24 in the am? Drink some more Stink Face.
Recall the other night you asking your wife where the fuck she was at 2AM? I was up because I just finished with her.
My wife is a hottie. She's never cheated on me and vice versa. We met in High School and married after I quit college. Shes a saint actually and I'm the luckiest guy on earth.Recall the other night you asking your wife where the fuck she was at 2AM? I was up because I just finished with her.
For you to even joke about sleeping with my wife is laughable. I'm '6 - ''2 and weight 255lbs with a 4% body fat. I'm 50 yrs old too and have a perfect smile. Dude there's no way she would fuck you.
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Zombo you stay away from my wife with your winking ass!Zombo said:
Dude there's no way she would fuck you ... LOL.
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My wife is a hottie. She's never cheated on me and vice versa. We met in High School and married after I quit college. Shes a saint actually and I'm the luckiest guy on earth.Recall the other night you asking your wife where the fuck she was at 2AM? I was up because I just finished with her.
For you to even joke about sleeping with my wife is laughable. I'm '6 - ''2 and weight 255lbs with a 4% body fat. I'm 50 yrs old too and have a perfect smile. Dude there's no way she would fuck you.
One Post From the Truth said:
My wife is a hottie. She's never cheated on me and vice versa. We met in High School and married after I quit college. Shes a saint actually and I'm the luckiest guy on earth.
For you to even joke about sleeping with my wife is laughable. I'm '6 - ''2 and weight 255lbs with a 4% body fat. I'm 50 yrs old too and have a perfect smile. Dude there's no way she would fuck you.
Classic stuff! Thatta boy!
You don't have to worry about Stink - he's pretty devoted to Vag. It gets really creepy when they get in the same threads.
All that said, it sounds like your height, weight and body fat got Ghoolie really excited. I knew I should have bought stock in viagra.
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My wink broke up Johnny and Coleen and sent him spiralling out of control.
I wouldn't want to do that to you, you seem like a decent guy.
And big.
Z
I might have embellished a little on the body fat but nonetheless I'm in good shape don't mean to brag really. I don't drink or smoke ciggerettes that's the big key in staying healthy. I'm diabetic and have to eat healthier than the rest of my family. So the best that I'm in shape my A1C level stays near perfect so I can live. It's probably a blessing but boy howdy a cold beer and a shot of bourbon is tempting at times.Zombo said:
My wink broke up Johnny and Coleen and sent him spiralling out of control.
I wouldn't want to do that to you, you seem like a decent guy.
And big.
Z
Quick funny story.
My wife and I were in the city (Springfield) and and turned into the dollar store. Now as perfect as I may seem on the outside I'm a terrible driver. I whipped into a Dollar Store and this group of young punks wanted a parking space and I didn't see them wanting the spot before me. They pulled behind me yelling at us. I put the car into park wondering what was going on. I step out of the car and they got a look at me at drove off. My wife smiles and says "I love you honey".
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Here is a list of first time eligible players that will be up for the 2017 HOF Class:
Brian Dawkins DB
Tommie Harris DL
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco) WR
Larry Johnson RB
Thomas Jones RB
Olin Kreutz OL
Matt Light OL
Derrick Mason WR
Donovan McNabb QB
Joey Porter LB
Bob Sanders DB
Jeremy Shockey TE
Jason Taylor DE
LaDanian Tomlinson RB
Whines Hard WR
Ricky Williams RB
LDT, to me is the only Nicollete Sheridan in this bunch. The interesting one will be Donovan McNabb.
And besides Warner, here are some other current eligibles who may also be highly considered:
Isaac Bruce
Tori Holt
John Lynch
Terrell Davis.
Morten Anderson
T.O.
Kevin Mawae
Edgerrin James
Faneca
Joe Jacoby
Steve Atwater
Who among these will/should make it?
Hines Ward should.
Has the stats. 2 X Super Bowl winner, 4 X Pro Bowler (3x second team), SB MVP.
What puts him over the top is that no one has ever played the position like he has. Wasn't the prototype WR. Never took a play off, always looking to find someones head to knock off.
Hines Ward should.
Has the stats. 2 X Super Bowl winner, 4 X Pro Bowler (3x second team), SB MVP.
What puts him over the top is that no one has ever played the position like he has. Wasn't the prototype WR. Never took a play off, always looking to find someones head to knock off.
The issue with him is his competition. There are a number of other WRs that may be equally deserving that are not in yet and that have been waiting longer. All these WRs have had to wait: Carter, Tim Brown, Reed, Harrison, etc. A couple of others that come to mind are T.O. and Randy Moss.....they will get in over Ward. Also Bruce and Holt will be in competition with him.
His dirty play could even hurt him in the minds of voters.....at least delay his entry.
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Hines Ward should.
Has the stats. 2 X Super Bowl winner, 4 X Pro Bowler (3x second team), SB MVP.
What puts him over the top is that no one has ever played the position like he has. Wasn't the prototype WR. Never took a play off, always looking to find someones head to knock off.
The issue with him is his competition. There are a number of other WRs that may be equally deserving that are not in yet and that have been waiting longer. All these WRs have had to wait: Carter, Tim Brown, Reed, Harrison, etc. A couple of others that come to mind are T.O. and Randy Moss.....they will get in over Ward. Also Bruce and Holt will be in competition with him.
His dirty play could even hurt him in the minds of voters.....at least delay his entry.
The issue with him is his competition. There are a number of other WRs that may be equally deserving that are not in yet and that have been waiting longer. All these WRs have had to wait: Carter, Tim Brown, Reed, Harrison, etc. A couple of others that come to mind are T.O. and Randy Moss.....they will get in over Ward. Also Bruce and Holt will be in competition with him.
His dirty play could even hurt him in the minds of voters.....at least delay his entry.
But it wasn't dirty play. If you're old enough you'll remember tactics like chop blocking, helmet slaps, etc. were all legal before they became illegal.
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The issue with him is his competition. There are a number of other WRs that may be equally deserving that are not in yet and that have been waiting longer. All these WRs have had to wait: Carter, Tim Brown, Reed, Harrison, etc. A couple of others that come to mind are T.O. and Randy Moss.....they will get in over Ward. Also Bruce and Holt will be in competition with him.
His dirty play could even hurt him in the minds of voters.....at least delay his entry.
But it wasn't dirty play. If you're old enough you'll remember tactics like chop blocking, helmet slaps, etc. were all legal before they became illegal.
But it wasn't dirty play.
Wasn't dirty play? "Get your Head on a swivel" was made a term by Hines Wards illegally blindsiding DB's in the head or ear-hole. Queen of illegal screens & picks too. Hell yes I'd take a Ward as a Brown..
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The issue with him is his competition. There are a number of other WRs that may be equally deserving that are not in yet and that have been waiting longer. All these WRs have had to wait: Carter, Tim Brown, Reed, Harrison, etc. A couple of others that come to mind are T.O. and Randy Moss.....they will get in over Ward. Also Bruce and Holt will be in competition with him.
His dirty play could even hurt him in the minds of voters.....at least delay his entry.
But it wasn't dirty play. If you're old enough you'll remember tactics like chop blocking, helmet slaps, etc. were all legal before they became illegal.
But it wasn't dirty play. If you're old enough you'll remember tactics like chop blocking, helmet slaps, etc. were all legal before they became illegal.
He played dirty. His fellow players voted him the dirtiest player in the league. I will leave it to their judgment.
But, as I said, while I do think he will get in....he may have to wait a while. Carter waited like 10 years, no?
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