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  • @gftchris said:

    Well, Hillary for sure doesn't give that impression, but then Trump doesn't exactly scream man of the people.

    The majority of the US population is lower or middle class white people. Which candidate would you say is listening most to them? Which party uses that demographic as a punching bag? Poor white people are the only demographic left that SJWs believe is politically correct to pile into.

    @vaportrail said:

    The majority of the US population is lower or middle class white people. Which candidate would you say is listening most to them? Which party uses that demographic as a punching bag? Poor white people are the only demographic left that SJWs believe is politically correct to pile into.

    Of those two candidates? Neither.

  • @vaportrail said:

    The majority of the US population is lower or middle class white people. Which candidate would you say is listening most to them? Which party uses that demographic as a punching bag? Poor white people are the only demographic left that SJWs believe is politically correct to pile into.

    Of those two candidates? Neither.

    @gftchris said:

    Of those two candidates? Neither.

    Are you being willfully ignorant? Trump and Bernie were the only ones speaking out against TPP and NAFTA. My upper class and upper-middle class friends laughed off NAFTA and TPP as issues that don't matter, but when I ask my lower/middle class family and friends what's important to them, those issues are at the top of their list. I imagine it's the same for most everyone else who's ever had to live paycheck to paycheck or worked a blue collar job. Every other candidate on both sides was putting establishment politics before the American people. Do you really believe that Trump hasn't tapped into their beliefs that establishment politics have left them behind?

    Trump's a billionaire, sure, but he's demonstrated that he's much more in touch with the average Joe than Hillary is.

  • Where is Trump on the minimum wage?

  • Tonite's line up...

    Prime-Time Speakers
    Please note: The speakers below are part of the prime-time program, which will follow Tuesday’s Nomination Process.

    Sharon Day, Co-Chair of the Republican National Committee
    Sharon Day was elected Co-Chairman of the Republican National Committee on January 14, 2011, and was re-elected on January 25, 2013. From 2009-2011, she served as RNC Secretary. She has served the Republican Party at the local, state, and national levels for more than 20 years.

    Dana White, President, UFC
    Dana White is the president and business visionary behind the success of Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC). A self-described political independent, White has expressed his gratitude to presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump for helping the UFC succeed. Trump hosted the once-controversial mixed martial arts competitions at his Trump Taj Mahal casino property when other venues shunned the sport.

    Governor Asa Hutchison, Governor of Arkansas
    Asa Hutchinson is serving his first term as Governor of Arkansas. His main priority is bringing more jobs and economic growth to his native state, and he is working hard to make Arkansas an attractive place to locate a business.

    Leslie Rutledge, Arkansas Attorney General
    Rutledge’s election in 2014 was the first time a woman or a Republican had been elected Arkansas Attorney General. Rutledge has joined Arkansas with Texas and other states in challenging the constitutionality of the Obama Administration’s executive orders on immigration and in filing to protect personal property rights.

    Michael B, Mukasey, Former Attorney General
    Michael Mukasey served as Attorney General of the United States from November 2007 to January 2009. Prior to serving as Attorney General, Mukasey served as a judge in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, becoming Chief Judge in 2000.

    Andy Wist, Businessman
    Andy Wist founded the Standard Waterproofing Company in 1979. Beginning in his mom’s basement in Brooklyn, Andy grew the company into one of the largest roofing, waterproofing, and landmark restoration companies in New York City, that today counts more than 180 employees and is headquartered in the Bronx.

    U.S. Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin)
    Elected in 2010, Johnson has been fighting to get the country’s fiscal house in order. He is focused on reining in government spending and bringing jobs back to the people of Wisconsin. Before being elected to office, Johnson started a polyester and plastics manufacturing business, PACUR, in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Running this small business, Johnson did everything from operating the equipment to keeping the company books.

    Chris Cox, Executive Director of NRA Institute for Legislative Action
    Chris Cox directs NRA’s nationwide legislative and political efforts. As a champion of the right to bear arms guaranteed by the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, Cox has directed NRA’s electoral efforts at every level. He has been at the forefront of efforts resisting Obama administration gun control initiatives as well as abuses of power including the Justice Department’s Operation Fast and Furious effort that knowingly allowed guns to “walk” to Mexican drug cartels.

    Natalie Gulbis, Golfer, LPGA
    Natalie Gulbis is a professional golfer playing on the U.S.-based LPGA tour. The California native has played golf since the age of four and earned second place in Rookie of the Year points during her first year on tour in 2002. Gulbis starred in the 2005 and 2006 reality show, The Natalie Gulbis Show, which aired on The Golf Channel. Gulbis wrote a much-talked about piece on golf.com entitled “The Donald Trump I Know” in which she voiced her strong support for Donald Trump to become President of the United States.

    U.S. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky)
    U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell has represented the state of Kentucky since 1985, making him the state’s longest-serving senator. McConnell also serves in the Senate leadership; he is currently the Senate Majority Leader, and before assuming that role, he served an eight-year term as Senate Minority Leader.

    U.S. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (WI-1)
    U.S. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan is the permanent chairman of the 2016 Republican National Convention. Born and raised in Janesville, Wisconsin, Ryan has spent his life advocating for real solutions that help increase opportunities for all Americans. He first won election to the U.S. House in 1999, and during his tenure, he has become known for his leadership on budget and fiscal matters.

    U.S. House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (CA-23)
    Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy has represented California in the U.S. House of Representatives since 2007. A fourth-generation resident of Kern County, California, he grew up in a working-class family and ran a small business, Kevin O’s Deli. He has applied this background to his work on behalf of small businesses and positions on burdensome taxes and regulations.

    Governor Chris Christie, Governor of New Jersey
    New Jersey Governor Chris Christie was a candidate for president in the 2016 Republican primary. First elected governor in 2010, he was re-elected to his second term in 2013. The governor’s top priorities include balancing the state’s budget, education reform, and changing the national conversation about drug addiction and treatment.

    Tiffany Trump, Daughter of Donald Trump
    Tiffany Trump was born October 13, 1993 to Donald Trump and Marla Maples. Raised in California, she is the second-youngest of Donald Trump’s children. Tiffany graduated from University of Pennsylvania this spring with a double major in sociology and urban studies. She is a fashion model, singer, and influential presence on social media.

    Kerry Woolard, General Manager, Trump Winery
    Kerry Woolard is the General Manager at Trump Winery, a 1,300-acre estate located in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains in central Virginia. A graduate of the College of William and Mary, Kerry has 15 years of winery management experience and has contributed to wine columns for the Wine Gazette and USA Today. In her role at Trump Winery, Kerry oversees all operations and has worked with Donald Trump to make the business a huge success.

    Donald Trump, Jr., Son of Donald Trump and EVP, The Trump Organization
    Donald J. Trump, Jr. is an innovator and leader in today’s business world. As an Executive Vice President at The Trump Organization, Donald Jr. works in tandem with his siblings Ivanka and Eric to expand the company’s real estate, retail, commercial, hotel and golf interests nationally and internationally. His extensive real estate development experience, rigorous education and inherent business sense add a level of detail and depth to the management of all current and future Trump projects.

    U.S. Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-West Virginia)
    U.S. Senator Shelley Moore Capito is the first woman elected to the U.S. Senate in West Virginia’s history. In 1996, Capito was elected to the 31st District of the West Virginia House of Delegates, where she served two terms and was the minority chairman on the Health and Human Resources Committee and a member of the Judiciary and Banking and Insurance Committees.

    Dr. Ben Carson, Neurosurgeon
    A candidate for the presidency in this year’s Republican primary, Ben Carson grew up in a poor, single-parent household in Detroit, Michigan. Initially a student earning mediocre grades, his mother encouraged him to read and cultivated his love of learning. Between his degrees, Carson worked as an X-ray technician, a bank teller, a school bus driver, a supervisor for highway cleanup crews, and a crane operator in a steel factory.

    Kimberlin Brown, Actor
    An actress best known for her roles in the television dramas The Young and the Restless and The Bold and the Beautiful, Kimberlin Brown is also a California avocado farmer, host of The Design Network’s interior designer show Dramatic Design, and a small business owner.

    19 speakers in three, prime-time hours... 8 talking minutes per slot if you allow for entry/ exit times... and assumes nominating is done by 20:00 EDT.

    Seems ambitious... but less folks than the 25 on parade last night.... which ran long forcing rising star, Joni Ernst very late speaking to a crowd reminiscent of the one Hendrix played to at the end of Woodstock.

  • I wouldn't say much more in touch - Perhaps a business man rexognizing a spoiled deal.

    There is no billionare 'in touch' with the everyday working man. Including Buffett.

  • I wouldn't say much more in touch - Perhaps a business man rexognizing a spoiled deal.

    There is no billionare 'in touch' with the everyday working man. Including Buffett.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I wouldn't say much more in touch - Perhaps a business man rexognizing a spoiled deal.

    There is no billionare 'in touch' with the everyday working man. Including Buffett.

    I don't disagree with you there, but if you asked poor, white Joe which candidate listens to him, who do you think he'd say?

  • Time for republicans to unite and get behind Trump. What is the alternative Hillary Clinton? It should be a no brainer even for conservatives not happy with Trump that he would be better than Clinton. Trump is better on the issues. He is not as pro life as I would want but the alternative is Clinton and compared to her he looks much better on the issue. On the second amendment he has aligned himself with the NRA and will be better on the 2nd amendment than Clinton. Trump will do better in securing our border than anyone else. Trump has surrounded himself with conservatives, picked a staunch conservative for a running mate and even if he is not as conservative as I would like he is the only choice any conservative can make in 2016. To not vote or vote 3rd party is just a vote for Clinton.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Time for republicans to unite and get behind Trump. What is the alternative Hillary Clinton? It should be a no brainer even for conservatives not happy with Trump that he would be better than Clinton. Trump is better on the issues. He is not as pro life as I would want but the alternative is Clinton and compared to her he looks much better on the issue. On the second amendment he has aligned himself with the NRA and will be better on the 2nd amendment than Clinton. Trump will do better in securing our border than anyone else. Trump has surrounded himself with conservatives, picked a staunch conservative for a running mate and even if he is not as conservative as I would like he is the only choice any conservative can make in 2016. To not vote or vote 3rd party is just a vote for Clinton.

    Just MHO, OBF. Choosing between Trump and Hillary is like me saying that pile of shit doesn't stink as bad as the other one. I could list around 5 reasons I think Trump is a crazy MoFo- starting with building the wall between us and Mexico- an Idea that any rational person wouldn't think is worth the $$$. The guy is not a man of the people- easy enough to find out where he stiffed contractors working on his projects. If that's the way he conducts his business- he's made a ton of enemies there. Proof enough that the cutting taxes mantra is only going to balloon the National debt further. I can't support Hillary because she'd doubtless stack the Supreme Court with Liberal justices, and increase the welfare state. So short of relocating to a Caribbean island- I'm sort of in a quandary.

    @tour2ma said:

    Maybe the Titanic headed for your rectum?

    One of the most insightful comments about GOP night-one that I heard compared it to a CPAC conference. With the exception of Euro-Barbie's speech, I thought the comment captured "the spirit" of the evening... an evening that targeted GOP primary voters. If it delivered cal, then maybe it was a box that needed checking.

    But the rest of the week needs to pivot to the "independent" middle of the electorate. Folks who will determine the outcome of this election.

    Exactly Tour- I'm right in the middle. If I thought Johnson had a prayer of winning- I'd support him- his policies align closely with mine- with a couple of exceptions. The Republicans need to pull their heads out of their collective asses- and figure out the no new taxes thing won't work. That they pussed out when given the opportunity to raise the gas tax a couple of cents- when our highway infrastructure is falling apart was the last straw for me. If the Liberals want to sock it to the rich- a good starting point would be to double the amount of income subject to Social Security taxes, currently $118,000. That's piddly for millionaires. The RNC supporting a strong family values plank is going to alienate a bunch of young pro Bernie supporters.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I wouldn't say much more in touch - Perhaps a business man rexognizing a spoiled deal.

    There is no billionare 'in touch' with the everyday working man. Including Buffett.

    I don't disagree with you there, but if you asked poor, white Joe which candidate listens to him, who do you think he'd say?

    @vaportrail said:

    I don't disagree with you there, but if you asked poor, white Joe which candidate listens to him, who do you think he'd say?

    Then I'd be asking which poor, black Joe candidate listens to him... I'd receive an equally shitty response.

    These people, these politicians do nothing more than pander to the common clay. They're all lost.

  • @vaportrail said:

    I don't disagree with you there, but if you asked poor, white Joe which candidate listens to him, who do you think he'd say?

    Then I'd be asking which poor, black Joe candidate listens to him... I'd receive an equally shitty response.

    These people, these politicians do nothing more than pander to the common clay. They're all lost.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Then I'd be asking which poor, black Joe candidate listens to him... I'd receive an equally shitty response.

    These people, these politicians do nothing more than pander to the common clay. They're all lost.

    Right, but the initial question was something along the lines of "who's out of touch with the common people?" Most of those common people are white.

  • Where is Trump on the minimum wage?

    @tour2ma said:

    Where is Trump on the minimum wage?

    I think he has vacillated on the issue and supports some kind of a raise? That's a sucker's issue anyway but...

    WSS

  • @tour2ma said:

    Where is Trump on the minimum wage?

    I think he has vacillated on the issue and supports some kind of a raise? That's a sucker's issue anyway but...

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I think he has vacillated on the issue and supports some kind of a raise? That's a sucker's issue anyway but...

    WSS

    He is against a federal minimum wage, and wants it to be done by state or region, and he's right. Minimum wage in Wickliffe, Ohio gets you a lot further than it will in San Francisco.

  • @westside-steve said:

    I think he has vacillated on the issue and supports some kind of a raise? That's a sucker's issue anyway but...

    WSS

    He is against a federal minimum wage, and wants it to be done by state or region, and he's right. Minimum wage in Wickliffe, Ohio gets you a lot further than it will in San Francisco.

    @vaportrail said:

    He is against a federal minimum wage, and wants it to be done by state or region, and he's right. Minimum wage in Wickliffe, Ohio gets you a lot further than it will in San Francisco.

    Sounds proper, 10 bucks an hour in Akron or Carrollton is a hell of a lot better than 10 bucks an hour in New York City.

    WSS

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  • @bbedward said:

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    Both are in the poorest of taste and speak to how low the political spectrum has fallen.

    Edit. With having said that. You have two grieving mothers looking for any type of comfort or closure and they're both being used. It's sad and I feel awful for them.

  • @bbedward said:

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    Both are in the poorest of taste and speak to how low the political spectrum has fallen.

    Edit. With having said that. You have two grieving mothers looking for any type of comfort or closure and they're both being used. It's sad and I feel awful for them.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Both are in the poorest of taste and speak to how low the political spectrum has fallen.

    This election will be known to future generations as "The Pandering."

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Both are in the poorest of taste and speak to how low the political spectrum has fallen.

    This election will be known to future generations as "The Pandering."

    @vaportrail said:

    This election will be known to future generations as "The Pandering."

    Best case scenario....it could get worse

  • @vaportrail said:

    This election will be known to future generations as "The Pandering."

    Best case scenario....it could get worse

    @clevfan4life said:

    Best case scenario....it could get worse

    "The Great Pandering"

  • Chris Christie's bit is pretty weird

  • Ha he came out swinging.

  • Tiffany is clearly well educated, but it felt to me very arrogant and disingenuous. I'm still voting trump, but that was hard to take seriously. Very condescending tone almost. I don't know.