Tribe puts up 14 in the 2nd
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I was coming back from my daughter's high school softball tournament in Ashland when this onslaught was going on.....Turned on the radio and started hearing Hamilton say they had 5 doubles and a HR in the inning.....Just then Asdrubal went yard with his grand slam....I was whooping it up in the car!!!!!
Wow...great stuff,
Whay are they, 4 for their last 6 now?
Whay are they, 4 for their last 6 now?
Four of their last seven, just three games back. To amplify just how bad of a start we had, today's win put our runs scored differential at zero for the season. Yikes.
Here's Olney writing about the bandbox in the Bronx:
Saturday, April 18, 2009
New Yankee Stadium on steroids?
By Buster Olney
ESPN The Magazine
The New York Yankees might have a serious problem on their hands: Beautiful new Yankee Stadium appears to be a veritable wind tunnel that is rocketing balls over the fences.
This was in evidence again on Saturday, when the Indians posted six homers, including 14 runs in the second innings. Cleveland eventually won 22-4 -- and the Yankees and Indians have combined for 14 homers in the last two days.
"With the way the wind has been the last couple of days, right field is a joke," said one official. "I would say at least three or four home runs in this series would be routine outs in nearly every park."
There have been five games played in new Yankee Stadium, including two exhibitions against the Chicago Cubs, and so far there have been 25 homers -- including 17 in the first three games in the Yankees' first home series against the Indians.
That's an average of almost five home runs per game and, at this pace, there would be about 400 homers hit in the park this year -- or an increase of about 250 percent. In the last year of old Yankee Stadium, in 2008, there were a total of 160 homers.
The Yankees' traditionally have fostered pitching in their home park. Old Yankee Stadium had a short porch in right field, designed originally to take advantage of Babe Ruth's power, but the rest of the park played large. Through the years, this has allowed pitchers to thrive in Yankee Stadium, and been a nice lure for the team in pursuing free agents.
The new Yankee Stadium is just across the street from the old park, but it's not aligned quite the same way as the old Yankee Stadium. In the late-afternoon shadows in the old park, the sun was in the eyes of the left fielder. Now the sun sets into the eyes of the center field and right fielder. Whether or not that's a factor is not known, and it's also possible that the number of home runs hit is directly related to the poor pitching of the likes of Chien-Ming Wang.
But already there have been a number of fly balls that seemed to be routine outs, before almost leaping out of the park. Mark Teixeira lifted a pop to right field off the end of his bat in the first inning Saturday, and players on both teams appeared to be completely surprised when it carried over the wall.
Even if the Yankees wanted to make an adjustment, there is nothing they could do structurally to alter the park this season. They would have to petition for a change going into the next offseason, before doing any reconstruction.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4080195
Beanpot
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What, ties an AL record held by the Tribe in 1950 and Boston in 2003. Could this be the spark?
What, ties an AL record held by the Tribe in 1950 and Boston in 2003. Could this be the spark?
Just our little house warming gift to them in honor of the new stadium.
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Wahooooo, love the ass kicking the Tribe put on the Yankees today, let's win tomorrow to take 3 out of 4.
GOOOOOOOOOO TRIBE!!!!!!!!
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Just to go a little further on the park, the wind was blowing out to the west (6-12 MPH) yesterday and today. The forecast for tomorrow calls for a wind of 7 to 8 MPH to the E/NE. It'll be interesting to see how it plays under those conditions.
Not that I care all that much about the house of the a-holes and their equally a-hole fans, but this is going to develop into a pretty big story if TNYS continues to play like Coors.
Of course, it could be as simple as the ball being juiced as discussed below. And by discussed, I mean talked about in some weird code that goes way, way over my head:
Thought you might like to hear about something Iâve been following for the first week of the season. I began wondering at the large number of long home runs being hit in the first two full days of the season, and started watching the numbers closely. The distance of the home runs being hit this year (the true distance, i.e where they actually land, as well as the standard distance, which factors out weather and altitude) is significantly higher than last year, with the average standard distance being 8.5 feet longer this year than last.
You may be wondering about sample sizes, and of course I took that into account. I used a 2-sample T-test on the 2009 and 2008 full season data, and got this:
Two-Sample T-Test and CI: 2009, 2008
Two-sample T for 2009 vs 2008
N Mean StDev SE Mean
2009 199 399.8 27.8 2.0
2008 4820 391.3 25.4 0.37
Difference = mu (2009) - mu (2008)
Estimate for difference: 8.49
95% CI for difference: (4.54, 12.45)
T-Test of difference = 0 (vs not
: T-Value = 4.23 P-Value = 0.000 DF = 211
The p-value actually works out to 0.0000341, which is a very strong indicator that something is making 2009 home runs fly farther than 2008 home runs, in isolation of the weather, and to me that implicates the ball. In the course of observing all the homers, I have also heard lots of comments from announcers who were surprised at how far the ball had carried.
When I look at only April, 2008, I get a p-value of 0.01, so I donât think itâs just some sort of calendar thing here. Iâve done the same comparison to 2007, 2006, and the month of April for each of those years, and all indications agree that the difference is significant.
So, you might want to dust off your calculations from that âChanges in HR Rates from the Retrosheet Yearsâ article and see what you get. Looks like a big year for homers, and so far the actual rate of 2.14 HR per game (in April!) doesnât contradict thatâŚ
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/...l_juiced_again/
Beanpot
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You know what the best part of this is. Their fans are paying $200 a ticket to watch their team getting their ass kicked. Do you know they have a xxxxing butcher in the new Yankee stadium. Half the seats were filled (if that), in the 5th inning. Either they were sick of their 250 million dollar team getting their ass kicked by a 60 million dollar payroll (I might be wrong here), or they were out buying $40 steaks to take home.
It's sickening, I think I now hate the Yankees as much as the Stoolers.
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You know what the best part of this is. Their fans are paying $200 a ticket to watch their team getting their ass kicked. Do you know they have a xxxxing butcher in the new Yankee stadium. Half the seats were filled (if that), in the 5th inning. Either they were sick of their 250 million dollar team getting their ass kicked by a 60 million dollar payroll (I might be wrong here), or they were out buying $40 steaks to take home.
It's sickening, I think I now hate the Yankees as much as the Stoolers.
Half the seats were filled (if that), in the 5th inning. Either they were sick of their 250 million dollar team getting their ass kicked by a 60 million dollar payroll (I might be wrong here), or they were out buying $40 steaks to take home.
That's a freaking awesome comment! And I hate the Yankees even more than I do those bitches in yellow and black.
Beanpot
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Living in Rangerville too long has me pretty accustomed to this. At least it let me focus on the Cavs (I hate not being there for a Cleveland title run) and being that it was in the new stadium was definitely sweet. But I don't think the bats needed a spark. They were slumping and had some tough breaks with RISP, but this still should be one of the best offenses in the league. The season still comes down to Lee, Fausto and one of the bottom three playing some good, reliable baseball. Luckily, it's starting to look like they can do it.
Toss in the fact that playoff hockey is in full swing and this day has been nothing short of fantastic.
Glad to hear it, I swear this is the best hockey's been since Gretzky retired. The lockout couldn't have had worse timing, I think Crosby, Ovechkin and the like are doing to the league what the 2003 draft class did to the NBA...now people just have to care.
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I hate them both equally, both teams can F off, and their fans are asshats.
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BTW, how'd your daughter do in the tourney?
Beanpot
They did well. In a round robin type tourney they went 4-0 for the weekend. Beat two teams from Illinois, Youngstown Ursaline and Loudonville.
In the first poll her high school team is ranked #1 in the state in Div. III.
Thanks for asking Bean. That was nice. Here is a pic of her. I couldn't be more proud.
She's a switch hitting centerfielder. Bats in the two hole.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin" -
Half the seats were filled (if that), in the 5th inning. Either they were sick of their 250 million dollar team getting their ass kicked by a 60 million dollar payroll (I might be wrong here), or they were out buying $40 steaks to take home.
That's a freaking awesome comment! And I hate the Yankees even more than I do those bitches in yellow and black.
Beanpot
That's a freaking awesome comment! And I hate the Yankees even more than I do those bitches in yellow and black.
Beanpot
While I am enjoying watching the Yankees getting their butts handed to them, we gotta stop and remember (yet savoring the moment) that #1 the season just started and #2 this is the Yankees and you better believe the powers that be in NY won't allow them to get to far behind. Steinbrenner lets it be known when he's not happy as does the rest of management Im sure .
On the other side (ours) it certainly has been a fun time in the Bronx. Although I still hate black and yellow more than pinstripes. Boston's not on my list of favorites either.
NEW YORK - The jokes started flying as the Cleveland Indians piled up runs in the second inning Saturday. Ben Francisco was glad he wasnât in the field. Ryan Garko was hoping to avoid making another out.
It was one fun day for the Tribe at the New York Yankeesâ swanky new home.
Asdrubal Cabrera hit a grand slam and an RBI single in Clevelandâs 14-run second â the biggest inning ever against New York â and the Indians set the bar for Yankee Stadiumâs new record book, coasting to a 22-4 victory.
âIt was just one of those games for the entire team,â said Mark DeRosa, who went 4-for-7 and tied a career high with six RBIs. âJust a lot of guys getting good swings.â
DeRosa and Shin Soo-Choo hit three-run homers, Travis Hafner, Grady Sizemore and Victor Martinez had solo shots and manager Eric Wedge earned his 500th victory. Jhonny Peralta had three hits and two RBIs after missing Fridayâs 6-5 loss with a strained left elbow.
The Indians chased struggling starter Chien-Ming Wang and set several marks that could stand for a while at New Yorkâs $1.5 billion ballpark. The 14 runs were the most scored in the second inning of a major league game, according to the Elias Sports Bureau. The runs and 13 hits in the inning were a franchise record for a Yankees opponent.
âWe did a good job of not missing pitches and we squared a lot of balls up today,â Wedge said.
Mark Teixeira and Melky Cabrera each hit a two-run homer for the Yankees, who were embarrassed in two of their first three regular-season games at their new field. New York lost 10-2 in its home opener Thursday when Cleveland scored nine runs in the seventh inning.
âI havenât seen this many big innings in a long while,â Yankees manager Joe Girardi said. âWe expected pitching to be a strength and sometimes it has been. But at other times not.â
It was the most runs for the Indians since they beat New York 22-0 on Aug. 31, 2004, at the old Yankee Stadium. The 22 runs also tied the Yankeesâ record for most allowed in a home game.
Choo delivered the first big blow in the second, hitting a three-run drive off Wang to give Cleveland a 3-2 lead. Asdrubal Cabrera singled in a run, DeRosa had a two-run double and Martinez had an RBI single before Wang was replaced by Anthony Claggett, who was making his major league debut after being recalled from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre before the game.
Wang (0-3) was charged with eight runs and eight hits in 1 1-3 innings, giving him a 34.50 ERA in three starts this year. He went 5-0 with a 3.23 ERA in six April starts last season.
âActually, I thought he threw more good sinkerballs today but that inning got out of hand and we need to fix that,â Girardi said. âWe have some time. We have a day off I think Thursday and weâre going to have to decide whatâs best for Chien-Ming Wang and the team.â
The Yankees could skip Wangâs next turn in the rotation but Girardi said the team hasnât made a decision yet.
Peralta doubled in two more runs after Wang left and Asdrubal Cabrera hit a drive to right on a 3-1 pitch for his first homer of the year. Sizemore followed Cabreraâs shot with his fourth homer to make it 14-2 as the crowd booed loudly.
By then, the party was on in the Indiansâ dugout.
âThereâs some funny stuff thatâs said,â DeRosa said. âObviously Garko made the first out and didnât want to make another out in the same inning.â
The fans started chanting âWe want Swisher!â for the second time in the series as Claggett struck out DeRosa for the final out. Yankees outfielder Nick Swisher pitched a scoreless inning during a blowout loss at Tampa Bay on Monday.
Wang and Claggett combined to throw 69 pitches during the half-inning, which lasted 37 minutes.
âWe knew it was long,â Francisco said. âI think I was talking to Grady, Iâm like, âIt would suck to be on defense right now, just sitting out there.ââ
The âWe want Swisher!â chant returned when Hafner hit his fourth homer of the season in the eighth.
Fausto Carmona (1-2) was the beneficiary of the Indiansâ big day at the plate, working six innings in his first victory of the season. He allowed four runs and six hits.
Heidi ''Life's tough ... it's even tougher if you're stupid.'' --John Wayne -
BTW, how'd your daughter do in the tourney?
Beanpot
They did well. In a round robin type tourney they went 4-0 for the weekend. Beat two teams from Illinois, Youngstown Ursaline and Loudonville.
In the first poll her high school team is ranked #1 in the state in Div. III.
Thanks for asking Bean. That was nice. Here is a pic of her. I couldn't be more proud.
She's a switch hitting centerfielder. Bats in the two hole.
They did well. In a round robin type tourney they went 4-0 for the weekend. Beat two teams from Illinois, Youngstown Ursaline and Loudonville.
In the first poll her high school team is ranked #1 in the state in Div. III.
Thanks for asking Bean. That was nice. Here is a pic of her. I couldn't be more proud.
She's a switch hitting centerfielder. Bats in the two hole.
Girls rule! Way to go! You have every right to be proud.
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Maybe the Indians are sick of the Cavs setting records? I hope so! I sure would love to see a lot more of this!
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BTW, how'd your daughter do in the tourney?
Beanpot
They did well. In a round robin type tourney they went 4-0 for the weekend. Beat two teams from Illinois, Youngstown Ursaline and Loudonville.
In the first poll her high school team is ranked #1 in the state in Div. III.
Thanks for asking Bean. That was nice. Here is a pic of her. I couldn't be more proud.
She's a switch hitting centerfielder. Bats in the two hole.
They did well. In a round robin type tourney they went 4-0 for the weekend. Beat two teams from Illinois, Youngstown Ursaline and Loudonville.
In the first poll her high school team is ranked #1 in the state in Div. III.
Thanks for asking Bean. That was nice. Here is a pic of her. I couldn't be more proud.
She's a switch hitting centerfielder. Bats in the two hole.
Enjoy this while you can Crow ... Blink your eyes and it's over
Best of luck to her this season
GO TRIBE - They scored more touchdowns in one inning than the Brownies did in six games
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That's a freaking awesome comment! And I hate the Yankees even more than I do those bitches in yellow and black.
Beanpot
While I am enjoying watching the Yankees getting their butts handed to them, we gotta stop and remember (yet savoring the moment) that #1 the season just started and #2 this is the Yankees and you better believe the powers that be in NY won't allow them to get to far behind. Steinbrenner lets it be known when he's not happy as does the rest of management Im sure .
On the other side (ours) it certainly has been a fun time in the Bronx. Although I still hate black and yellow more than pinstripes. Boston's not on my list of favorites either.
NEW YORK - The jokes started flying as the Cleveland Indians piled up runs in the second inning Saturday. Ben Francisco was glad he wasnât in the field. Ryan Garko was hoping to avoid making another out.
It was one fun day for the Tribe at the New York Yankeesâ swanky new home.
Asdrubal Cabrera hit a grand slam and an RBI single in Clevelandâs 14-run second â the biggest inning ever against New York â and the Indians set the bar for Yankee Stadiumâs new record book, coasting to a 22-4 victory.
âIt was just one of those games for the entire team,â said Mark DeRosa, who went 4-for-7 and tied a career high with six RBIs. âJust a lot of guys getting good swings.â
DeRosa and Shin Soo-Choo hit three-run homers, Travis Hafner, Grady Sizemore and Victor Martinez had solo shots and manager Eric Wedge earned his 500th victory. Jhonny Peralta had three hits and two RBIs after missing Fridayâs 6-5 loss with a strained left elbow.
The Indians chased struggling starter Chien-Ming Wang and set several marks that could stand for a while at New Yorkâs $1.5 billion ballpark. The 14 runs were the most scored in the second inning of a major league game, according to the Elias Sports Bureau. The runs and 13 hits in the inning were a franchise record for a Yankees opponent.
âWe did a good job of not missing pitches and we squared a lot of balls up today,â Wedge said.
Mark Teixeira and Melky Cabrera each hit a two-run homer for the Yankees, who were embarrassed in two of their first three regular-season games at their new field. New York lost 10-2 in its home opener Thursday when Cleveland scored nine runs in the seventh inning.
âI havenât seen this many big innings in a long while,â Yankees manager Joe Girardi said. âWe expected pitching to be a strength and sometimes it has been. But at other times not.â
It was the most runs for the Indians since they beat New York 22-0 on Aug. 31, 2004, at the old Yankee Stadium. The 22 runs also tied the Yankeesâ record for most allowed in a home game.
Choo delivered the first big blow in the second, hitting a three-run drive off Wang to give Cleveland a 3-2 lead. Asdrubal Cabrera singled in a run, DeRosa had a two-run double and Martinez had an RBI single before Wang was replaced by Anthony Claggett, who was making his major league debut after being recalled from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre before the game.
Wang (0-3) was charged with eight runs and eight hits in 1 1-3 innings, giving him a 34.50 ERA in three starts this year. He went 5-0 with a 3.23 ERA in six April starts last season.
âActually, I thought he threw more good sinkerballs today but that inning got out of hand and we need to fix that,â Girardi said. âWe have some time. We have a day off I think Thursday and weâre going to have to decide whatâs best for Chien-Ming Wang and the team.â
The Yankees could skip Wangâs next turn in the rotation but Girardi said the team hasnât made a decision yet.
Peralta doubled in two more runs after Wang left and Asdrubal Cabrera hit a drive to right on a 3-1 pitch for his first homer of the year. Sizemore followed Cabreraâs shot with his fourth homer to make it 14-2 as the crowd booed loudly.
By then, the party was on in the Indiansâ dugout.
âThereâs some funny stuff thatâs said,â DeRosa said. âObviously Garko made the first out and didnât want to make another out in the same inning.â
The fans started chanting âWe want Swisher!â for the second time in the series as Claggett struck out DeRosa for the final out. Yankees outfielder Nick Swisher pitched a scoreless inning during a blowout loss at Tampa Bay on Monday.
Wang and Claggett combined to throw 69 pitches during the half-inning, which lasted 37 minutes.
âWe knew it was long,â Francisco said. âI think I was talking to Grady, Iâm like, âIt would suck to be on defense right now, just sitting out there.ââ
The âWe want Swisher!â chant returned when Hafner hit his fourth homer of the season in the eighth.
Fausto Carmona (1-2) was the beneficiary of the Indiansâ big day at the plate, working six innings in his first victory of the season. He allowed four runs and six hits.
On the other side (ours) it certainly has been a fun time in the Bronx. Although I still hate black and yellow more than pinstripes. Boston's not on my list of favorites either.
Yea I do dislike Boston, but for the right reasons. They play good baseball and are classy. The Yankee's are a bunch of ass clowns. Boston fans are loud but are loud because they know baseball. Yankee fans are fat over opinionated slobs that know nothing about baseball except how to be a front runner. Just wait, if the Yankees have a losing record at all star break, who will turn on them, their fans and the media. The Indians or Red Sox fans would stick with their team no matter what. That is just the respect I have for the Red Sox. Of course the Indians are going to kick their ass this year in the playoffs....
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They did well. In a round robin type tourney they went 4-0 for the weekend. Beat two teams from Illinois, Youngstown Ursaline and Loudonville.
In the first poll her high school team is ranked #1 in the state in Div. III.
Thanks for asking Bean. That was nice. Here is a pic of her. I couldn't be more proud.
She's a switch hitting centerfielder. Bats in the two hole.
Enjoy this while you can Crow ... Blink your eyes and it's over
Best of luck to her this season
GO TRIBE - They scored more touchdowns in one inning than the Brownies did in six games
GO TRIBE - They scored more touchdowns in one inning than the Brownies did in six games
LMAO
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this was awesome and i hope to god they roll them again today. go tribe
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this was awesome and i hope to god they roll them again today. go tribe
this was awesome and i hope to god they roll them again today. go tribe
That would be sweet to see Pavano get back on track and beat the Yankee's. He did talk shit about them after signing with the Indians. But he's going up against Burnett, he has a .90 WHIP. We'll see?
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BTW, how'd your daughter do in the tourney?
Beanpot
They did well. In a round robin type tourney they went 4-0 for the weekend. Beat two teams from Illinois, Youngstown Ursaline and Loudonville.
In the first poll her high school team is ranked #1 in the state in Div. III.
Thanks for asking Bean. That was nice. Here is a pic of her. I couldn't be more proud.
She's a switch hitting centerfielder. Bats in the two hole.
They did well. In a round robin type tourney they went 4-0 for the weekend. Beat two teams from Illinois, Youngstown Ursaline and Loudonville.
In the first poll her high school team is ranked #1 in the state in Div. III.
Thanks for asking Bean. That was nice. Here is a pic of her. I couldn't be more proud.
She's a switch hitting centerfielder. Bats in the two hole.
So very cool! Do us a favor and keep us updated on her season if you wouldn't mind. Stan, the guy who built this place, is very into high school sports (me too!) and it's always great to have a rooting interest.
Thanks again for sharing.
Beanpot
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Living in Rangerville too long has me pretty accustomed to this. At least it let me focus on the Cavs (I hate not being there for a Cleveland title run) and being that it was in the new stadium was definitely sweet. But I don't think the bats needed a spark. They were slumping and had some tough breaks with RISP, but this still should be one of the best offenses in the league. The season still comes down to Lee, Fausto and one of the bottom three playing some good, reliable baseball. Luckily, it's starting to look like they can do it.
Toss in the fact that playoff hockey is in full swing and this day has been nothing short of fantastic.
Glad to hear it, I swear this is the best hockey's been since Gretzky retired. The lockout couldn't have had worse timing, I think Crosby, Ovechkin and the like are doing to the league what the 2003 draft class did to the NBA...now people just have to care.
Glad to hear it, I swear this is the best hockey's been since Gretzky retired. The lockout couldn't have had worse timing, I think Crosby, Ovechkin and the like are doing to the league what the 2003 draft class did to the NBA...now people just have to care.
I couldn't agree more and the 2003 NBA draft is a perfect comparison. So much young talent in the game now and it really does come down to getting people to care about it. Here in Tampa, people cared quite a bit before the lockout. Many were event fans rather than hockey fans but they cared. Now, not so much.
Beanpot
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